Why cyclists use the footway.

On 18 Oct, 06:48, Tom Crispin <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

www.johnballcycling.org.uk/photos/blocked

Is that my lens hood in the corners of this wide angle shot? Surely
something's wrong.

Were you wearing gloves?

Tom Crispin said:

www.johnballcycling.org.uk/photos/blocked

Is that my lens hood in the corners of this wide angle shot? Surely
something's wrong.

Yes, you missed out the tel no on the van.

--

Geoff

Tom Crispin said:

www.johnballcycling.org.uk/photos/blocked

Is that my lens hood in the corners of this wide angle shot? Surely
something's wrong.

something odd any way, it's not even the same all the way around. i take
it, doesn't allways do that?

roger
--
www.rogermerriman.com

Response to Roger Merriman:

Quoted message said:

Tom Crispin said:

www.johnballcycling.org.uk/photos/blocked

Is that my lens hood in the corners of this wide angle shot? Surely
something's wrong.

something odd any way, it's not even the same all the way around. i take
it, doesn't allways do that?

Looks to me like one of those shallow rectangular plastic lens hoods,
knocked out of kilter presumably for just one shot. I've done that.

--
Mark, UK
"You've no idea what a poor opinion I have of myself, and how little I
deserve it."

GeoffC said the following on 18/10/2007 08:37:

Quoted message said:

Yes, you missed out the tel no on the van.

0845 605 6767

--
Paul Boyd
http://www.paul-boyd.co.uk/

Mark McNeill said:

Response to Roger Merriman:

Quoted message said:

Tom Crispin said:

www.johnballcycling.org.uk/photos/blocked

Is that my lens hood in the corners of this wide angle shot? Surely
something's wrong.

something odd any way, it's not even the same all the way around. i take
it, doesn't allways do that?

Looks to me like one of those shallow rectangular plastic lens hoods,
knocked out of kilter presumably for just one shot. I've done that.

ah yes looking again that does make sence, do people find the hoods
useful? i've never bothered, normally either shielding with one hand on
the odd time that flare and such becomes a problem.

roger
--
www.rogermerriman.com

Mark McNeill said:

Response to Roger Merriman:

Quoted message said:

Tom Crispin said:

www.johnballcycling.org.uk/photos/blocked

Is that my lens hood in the corners of this wide angle shot? Surely
something's wrong.

something odd any way, it's not even the same all the way around. i take
it, doesn't allways do that?

Looks to me like one of those shallow rectangular plastic lens hoods,
knocked out of kilter presumably for just one shot. I've done that.

It's probably a petal- type hood (as that is the type the Olympus 14-42mm
that comes as standard with the E-410 has).

Ben

Tom Crispin said:

www.johnballcycling.org.uk/photos/blocked

Is that my lens hood in the corners of this wide angle shot? Surely
something's wrong.

Fair enough, but why don't they just wheel(ie, push) the bikes past
the van?

It must be all of four or five yards, and pushing (rather than riding)
would avoid all risk of a FPN.

Response to Ben Micklem:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Looks to me like one of those shallow rectangular plastic lens hoods,
knocked out of kilter presumably for just one shot. I've done that.

It's probably a petal- type hood (as that is the type the Olympus 14-42mm
that comes as standard with the E-410 has).

Ah, so - I didn't know they were called that. (And I could never see
the point of that shape myself, though I daresay there's a reason for
it.)

--
Mark, UK
"We make irrevocable decisions in a state of mind that is not going to
last."

JNugent said:

Tom Crispin said:

www.johnballcycling.org.uk/photos/blocked

Quoted message said:

Fair enough, but why don't they just wheel(ie, push) the bikes past
the van?

It must be all of four or five yards, and pushing (rather than riding)
would avoid all risk of a FPN.

Well....

If you look one, of the ones at the back is getting off their bike and
the others are all off their bikes so it looks as if they are going to
be pushing to me. The one actually on the pavement could be pushing or
riding, it's hard to tell since you can't see the pedals, but my guess
is pushing as I don't think you would get that close to the bars if
you were scooting.

Then on another point, it looks to me like a temporary road closure
has beeen affected by the construction workers and it wasn't designed
to alow cyclists through. If it was there should be another yellow
line.
--
Phil Cook looking north over the park to the "Westminster Gasworks"

Phil Cook said:

JNugent said:

Tom Crispin said:

www.johnballcycling.org.uk/photos/blocked

Quoted message said:

Fair enough, but why don't they just wheel(ie, push) the bikes past
the van?

It must be all of four or five yards, and pushing (rather than
riding) would avoid all risk of a FPN.

Well....

If you look one, of the ones at the back is getting off their bike and
the others are all off their bikes so it looks as if they are going to
be pushing to me. The one actually on the pavement could be pushing or
riding, it's hard to tell since you can't see the pedals, but my guess
is pushing as I don't think you would get that close to the bars if
you were scooting.

Then on another point, it looks to me like a temporary road closure
has beeen affected by the construction workers and it wasn't designed
to alow cyclists through. If it was there should be another yellow
line.

Looks to me like they have very thoughtfully left a gap for cyclists which
has been very unthoughtfully blocked by the the parked van..

--

Geoff

GeoffC said:

Tom Crispin said:

www.johnballcycling.org.uk/photos/blocked

Quoted message said:

Is that my lens hood in the corners of this wide angle shot? Surely
something's wrong.

Yes, you missed out the tel no on the van.

--

Geoff

They probably have an e-mail link on their web site. It would be of
greater use to actually post this picture to them. Show them the
effects of a bit of thoughtlessness on the part of their drivers.

David Lloyd

GeoffC said:

Phil Cook said:

JNugent said:

Tom Crispin wrote:

>www.johnballcycling.org.uk/photos/blocked

Quoted message said:

Fair enough, but why don't they just wheel(ie, push) the bikes past
the van?

It must be all of four or five yards, and pushing (rather than
riding) would avoid all risk of a FPN.

Well....

If you look one, of the ones at the back is getting off their bike and
the others are all off their bikes so it looks as if they are going to
be pushing to me. The one actually on the pavement could be pushing or
riding, it's hard to tell since you can't see the pedals, but my guess
is pushing as I don't think you would get that close to the bars if
you were scooting.

Then on another point, it looks to me like a temporary road closure
has beeen affected by the construction workers and it wasn't designed
to alow cyclists through. If it was there should be another yellow
line.

Looks to me like they have very thoughtfully left a gap for cyclists which
has been very unthoughtfully blocked by the the parked van..

That's how it looks to me, though I am also conscious of the
possibility that the concrete blocks were meant to close the whole
width of the carriageway but not enough were delivered...

In article <[email hidden]>, Mark McNeill
[email hidden] says...

Quoted message said:

Response to Ben Micklem:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Looks to me like one of those shallow rectangular plastic lens hoods,
knocked out of kilter presumably for just one shot. I've done that.

It's probably a petal- type hood (as that is the type the Olympus 14-42mm
that comes as standard with the E-410 has).

Ah, so - I didn't know they were called that. (And I could never see
the point of that shape myself, though I daresay there's a reason for
it.)

Start with a lens hood that is narow enough to cause vignetting all
round the image. Now project laser beams from points on the edge of the
image area to the corresponding points on the subject. The beams cut
the hood and you end up with that hood shape, which is the most you can
shield the lens without causing vignetting.

JNugent said:

GeoffC said:

Phil Cook said:

JNugent wrote:

>Tom Crispin wrote:
>
>>www.johnballcycling.org.uk/photos/blocked

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Then on another point, it looks to me like a temporary road closure
has beeen affected by the construction workers and it wasn't designed
to alow cyclists through. If it was there should be another yellow
line.

Looks to me like they have very thoughtfully left a gap for cyclists which
has been very unthoughtfully blocked by the the parked van..

That's how it looks to me, though I am also conscious of the
possibility that the concrete blocks were meant to close the whole
width of the carriageway but not enough were delivered...

There are another two behind the van. Perhaps adding another would
have blocked the pavement as well.

--
Phil Cook looking north over the park to the "Westminster Gasworks"

Response to Rob Morley:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

It's probably a petal- type hood (as that is the type the Olympus 14-42mm
that comes as standard with the E-410 has).

Ah, so - I didn't know they were called that. (And I could never see
the point of that shape myself, though I daresay there's a reason for
it.)

Start with a lens hood that is narow enough to cause vignetting all
round the image. Now project laser beams from points on the edge of the
image area to the corresponding points on the subject. The beams cut
the hood and you end up with that hood shape, which is the most you can
shield the lens without causing vignetting.

Ar. I was thinking of the petal shape in comparison with a rectangular
lens hood, rather than a circular one; unusual, admittedly, but almost
certainly the last lens hood I used to bother with.

--
Mark, UK
"No, no, Cuthbert! Not the hose!"

David Lloyd said:

GeoffC said:

Tom Crispin said:

www.johnballcycling.org.uk/photos/blocked

Quoted message said:

Is that my lens hood in the corners of this wide angle shot? Surely
something's wrong.

Yes, you missed out the tel no on the van.

Quoted message said:

They probably have an e-mail link on their web site. It would be of
greater use to actually post this picture to them. Show them the
effects of a bit of thoughtlessness on the part of their drivers.

Yes, you are right of course. I suppose its an age thing, I still tend to
rate a tel no as more important than an internet web address.

--

Geoff

JNugent said:

Tom Crispin said:

www.johnballcycling.org.uk/photos/blocked

Is that my lens hood in the corners of this wide angle shot? Surely
something's wrong.

Fair enough, but why don't they just wheel(ie, push) the bikes past
the van?

It must be all of four or five yards, and pushing (rather than riding)
would avoid all risk of a FPN.

Well if somebody parked on a motorway so that car drivers were forced to get
out and walk 5yds thus delaying their journey by about 30secs we would never
hear the end of it :-)

--

Geoff

GeoffC said the following on 18/10/2007 13:57:

Quoted message said:

Yes, you are right of course. I suppose its an age thing, I still tend to
rate a tel no as more important than an internet web address.

I posted the telephone number earlier...

--
Paul Boyd
http://www.paul-boyd.co.uk/