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  1. Mike... said:
    Following up to Janet Baraclough said:

    Does anyone here save leftover food *from used dinner plates people
    have been eating from*, and serve them up to other people at a later
    meal?

    no way, i would give it to pets or throw away.

    Of course! No one with even half a brain would consider such a thing. This
    started in rec.food.cooking, where people said they take home a doggy bag if
    they didn't eat everything.

    Putting the half a steak left on their *own* plate is a far cry from
    scraping down everyones plate and sticking THAT in a doggy bag

    Do let us try to have a wee bit of common sense!!!

  2. Ophelia said:

    Putting the half a steak left on their *own* plate is a far cry from
    scraping down everyones plate and sticking THAT in a doggy bag

    Why?

    Quoted message said:

    Do let us try to have a wee bit of common sense!!!

  3. "Tim C." <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Ophelia said:

    Putting the half a steak left on their *own* plate is a far cry from
    scraping down everyones plate and sticking THAT in a doggy bag

    Why?

    OK....here we go....

    I predict 80 messages in this discussion by midnight tonight.

  4. Tim C. said:
    Ophelia said:

    Putting the half a steak left on their *own* plate is a far cry from
    scraping down everyones plate and sticking THAT in a doggy bag

    Why?

    Why not?

    What they are saying is that restos in the US serve huge portions. They
    take what is left (on their *own* plates home to eat later.

    As I said, that is a far cry from having the scraping of everyone's plates

  5. Ophelia said:
    Mike... said:
    Following up to Janet Baraclough said:

    Does anyone here save leftover food *from used dinner plates people
    have been eating from*, and serve them up to other people at a later
    meal?


    no way, i would give it to pets or throw away.

    Of course! No one with even half a brain would consider such a thing. This
    started in rec.food.cooking, where people said they take home a doggy bag if
    they didn't eat everything.

    Putting the half a steak left on their *own* plate is a far cry from
    scraping down everyones plate and sticking THAT in a doggy bag

    Quite so. We were discussing taking food from our "own" plates home in
    'doggie bags'.

    Quoted message said:


    Do let us try to have a wee bit of common sense!!!


    Ahem. I think that crediting Janet Baraclough with a "wee bit of common
    sense" might be a bit hard to swallow...

    Judging by the post you quoted, if she typed - "Does anyone here save
    leftover food *from used dinner plates people
    have been eating from*, and serve them up to other people at a later
    meal?" - she "twisted it" to suit herself.

    She obviously didn't take the time to lurk long enough in
    rec.food.cooking before "opening her big mouth" on this subject. If she
    had, she would have noticed that r.f.c. posters are mainly made up of
    USA/Canadian people with a much lower percentage of posters from other
    countries... What she also seems to forget is that what *she* defined as
    a "social no-no" in the UK may well be acceptable in other parts of the
    world.
    --
    Cheers
    Chatty Cathy

    Garlic: the element without which life as we know it would be impossible

  6. Ophelia said:
    Tim C. said:
    Ophelia said:

    Putting the half a steak left on their *own* plate is a far cry from
    scraping down everyones plate and sticking THAT in a doggy bag

    Why?

    Why not?

    What they are saying is that restos in the US serve huge portions. They
    take what is left (on their *own* plates home to eat later.

    As I said, that is a far cry from having the scraping of everyone's plates

    I asked why is it a far cry from having the leftovers from other
    people's plates? What is it exactly that you disapprove of?

  7. "Tim C." <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Ophelia said:
    Tim C. said:

    On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 16:29:43 +0100, "Ophelia" <[email hidden]> wrote:

    > Putting the half a steak left on their *own* plate is a far cry from
    > scraping down everyones plate and sticking THAT in a doggy bag

    Why?

    Why not?

    What they are saying is that restos in the US serve huge portions. They
    take what is left (on their *own* plates home to eat later.

    As I said, that is a far cry from having the scraping of everyone's plates

    I asked why is it a far cry from having the leftovers from other
    people's plates? What is it exactly that you disapprove of?

    Digestion begins in the mouth. Not everyone cleans their fork before putting
    it back on the plate after each mouth visit. So, food is already decomposing
    on the plate due to transfer of saliva. Add germs to the equation, and
    things get interesting. Maybe you're resistant to the germs already shared
    within your household, but not necessarily to germs from others you're
    dining with.

    Whether you take these risks or not depends on the reward involved. For me,
    someone's leftovers are not enough of a reward.

  8. On 23/10/07 17:00, in article [email hidden],

    JoeSpareBedroom said:

    "Tim C." <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Ophelia said:

    Tim C. wrote:
    > On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 16:29:43 +0100, "Ophelia" <[email hidden]> wrote:
    >
    >> Putting the half a steak left on their *own* plate is a far cry from
    >> scraping down everyones plate and sticking THAT in a doggy bag
    >
    > Why?

    Why not?

    What they are saying is that restos in the US serve huge portions. They
    take what is left (on their *own* plates home to eat later.

    As I said, that is a far cry from having the scraping of everyone's plates

    I asked why is it a far cry from having the leftovers from other
    people's plates? What is it exactly that you disapprove of?

    Digestion begins in the mouth. Not everyone cleans their fork before putting
    it back on the plate after each mouth visit. So, food is already decomposing
    on the plate due to transfer of saliva.

    Precisely so. That's one of the reasons mothers are taught to 'decant' a
    baby's food into a small dish if the whole jar is not going to be eaten at
    one sitting. Dipping a spoon from the baby's mouth into the jar puts saliva
    into the food and starts the decomposition process of the food in the jar.
    --
    Sacha

  9. Tim C. said:
    Ophelia said:
    Tim C. said:

    On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 16:29:43 +0100, "Ophelia" <[email hidden]> wrote:

    > Putting the half a steak left on their *own* plate is a far cry
    > from scraping down everyones plate and sticking THAT in a doggy
    > bag

    Why?

    Why not?

    What they are saying is that restos in the US serve huge portions.
    They take what is left (on their *own* plates home to eat later.

    As I said, that is a far cry from having the scraping of everyone's
    plates

    I asked why is it a far cry from having the leftovers from other
    people's plates? What is it exactly that you disapprove of?

    I am referring to Janet's mail asking if it were ok to serve the scrapings
    from others' plates.

    The point was that the people who talked about that were in face, taking
    food from their own plate to take home. They never have regarded scrapings
    from other plates as ok.

  10. Tim C. said:
    Ophelia said:
    Tim C. said:

    On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 16:29:43 +0100, "Ophelia" <[email hidden]> wrote:

    > Putting the half a steak left on their *own* plate is a far cry
    > from scraping down everyones plate and sticking THAT in a doggy
    > bag

    Why?

    Why not?

    What they are saying is that restos in the US serve huge portions.
    They take what is left (on their *own* plates home to eat later.

    As I said, that is a far cry from having the scraping of everyone's
    plates

    I asked why is it a far cry from having the leftovers from other
    people's plates? What is it exactly that you disapprove of?

    I am referring to Janet's mail asking if it were ok to serve the scrapings
    from others' plates.

    The point was that the people who talked about that were in face, taking
    food from their own plate to take home. They never have regarded scrapings
    from other plates as ok.

  11. Sacha said:

    On 23/10/07 17:00, in article [email hidden],

    JoeSpareBedroom said:

    "Tim C." <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 16:46:15 +0100, "Ophelia" <[email hidden]> wrote:

    > Tim C. wrote:
    >> On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 16:29:43 +0100, "Ophelia" <[email hidden]> wrote:
    >>
    >>> Putting the half a steak left on their *own* plate is a far cry
    >>> from scraping down everyones plate and sticking THAT in a doggy
    >>> bag
    >>
    >> Why?
    >
    > Why not?
    >
    > What they are saying is that restos in the US serve huge portions.
    > They take what is left (on their *own* plates home to eat later.
    >
    > As I said, that is a far cry from having the scraping of
    > everyone's plates

    I asked why is it a far cry from having the leftovers from other
    people's plates? What is it exactly that you disapprove of?

    Digestion begins in the mouth. Not everyone cleans their fork before
    putting it back on the plate after each mouth visit. So, food is
    already decomposing on the plate due to transfer of saliva.

    Precisely so. That's one of the reasons mothers are taught to
    'decant' a baby's food into a small dish if the whole jar is not
    going to be eaten at one sitting. Dipping a spoon from the baby's
    mouth into the jar puts saliva into the food and starts the
    decomposition process of the food in the jar.

    But surely Sacha, if you were eating and decided to leave some till later,
    you wouldn't think that about your own food on the plate that you had used?

  12. Sacha said:

    On 23/10/07 17:00, in article [email hidden],

    JoeSpareBedroom said:

    "Tim C." <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 16:46:15 +0100, "Ophelia" <[email hidden]> wrote:

    > Tim C. wrote:
    >> On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 16:29:43 +0100, "Ophelia" <[email hidden]> wrote:
    >>
    >>> Putting the half a steak left on their *own* plate is a far cry
    >>> from scraping down everyones plate and sticking THAT in a doggy
    >>> bag
    >>
    >> Why?
    >
    > Why not?
    >
    > What they are saying is that restos in the US serve huge portions.
    > They take what is left (on their *own* plates home to eat later.
    >
    > As I said, that is a far cry from having the scraping of
    > everyone's plates

    I asked why is it a far cry from having the leftovers from other
    people's plates? What is it exactly that you disapprove of?

    Digestion begins in the mouth. Not everyone cleans their fork before
    putting it back on the plate after each mouth visit. So, food is
    already decomposing on the plate due to transfer of saliva.

    Precisely so. That's one of the reasons mothers are taught to
    'decant' a baby's food into a small dish if the whole jar is not
    going to be eaten at one sitting. Dipping a spoon from the baby's
    mouth into the jar puts saliva into the food and starts the
    decomposition process of the food in the jar.

    But surely Sacha, if you were eating and decided to leave some till later,
    you wouldn't think that about your own food on the plate that you had used?

  13. "Ophelia" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Sacha said:

    On 23/10/07 17:00, in article [email hidden],

    JoeSpareBedroom said:

    "Tim C." <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...
    > On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 16:46:15 +0100, "Ophelia" <[email hidden]> wrote:
    >
    >> Tim C. wrote:
    >>> On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 16:29:43 +0100, "Ophelia" <[email hidden]> wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> Putting the half a steak left on their *own* plate is a far cry
    >>>> from scraping down everyones plate and sticking THAT in a doggy
    >>>> bag
    >>>
    >>> Why?
    >>
    >> Why not?
    >>
    >> What they are saying is that restos in the US serve huge portions.
    >> They take what is left (on their *own* plates home to eat later.
    >>
    >> As I said, that is a far cry from having the scraping of
    >> everyone's plates
    >
    > I asked why is it a far cry from having the leftovers from other
    > people's plates? What is it exactly that you disapprove of?

    Digestion begins in the mouth. Not everyone cleans their fork before
    putting it back on the plate after each mouth visit. So, food is
    already decomposing on the plate due to transfer of saliva.

    Precisely so. That's one of the reasons mothers are taught to
    'decant' a baby's food into a small dish if the whole jar is not
    going to be eaten at one sitting. Dipping a spoon from the baby's
    mouth into the jar puts saliva into the food and starts the
    decomposition process of the food in the jar.

    But surely Sacha, if you were eating and decided to leave some till later,
    you wouldn't think that about your own food on the plate that you had
    used?

    That's nothing but a quirk - a moment of temporary elective blindness during
    which we think the biology of digestion is different because we want it to
    be at that moment. We do this because we can't stand the thought of leaving
    half the food we paid for.

  14. "Ophelia" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Sacha said:

    On 23/10/07 17:00, in article [email hidden],

    JoeSpareBedroom said:

    "Tim C." <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...
    > On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 16:46:15 +0100, "Ophelia" <[email hidden]> wrote:
    >
    >> Tim C. wrote:
    >>> On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 16:29:43 +0100, "Ophelia" <[email hidden]> wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> Putting the half a steak left on their *own* plate is a far cry
    >>>> from scraping down everyones plate and sticking THAT in a doggy
    >>>> bag
    >>>
    >>> Why?
    >>
    >> Why not?
    >>
    >> What they are saying is that restos in the US serve huge portions.
    >> They take what is left (on their *own* plates home to eat later.
    >>
    >> As I said, that is a far cry from having the scraping of
    >> everyone's plates
    >
    > I asked why is it a far cry from having the leftovers from other
    > people's plates? What is it exactly that you disapprove of?

    Digestion begins in the mouth. Not everyone cleans their fork before
    putting it back on the plate after each mouth visit. So, food is
    already decomposing on the plate due to transfer of saliva.

    Precisely so. That's one of the reasons mothers are taught to
    'decant' a baby's food into a small dish if the whole jar is not
    going to be eaten at one sitting. Dipping a spoon from the baby's
    mouth into the jar puts saliva into the food and starts the
    decomposition process of the food in the jar.

    But surely Sacha, if you were eating and decided to leave some till later,
    you wouldn't think that about your own food on the plate that you had
    used?

    That's nothing but a quirk - a moment of temporary elective blindness during
    which we think the biology of digestion is different because we want it to
    be at that moment. We do this because we can't stand the thought of leaving
    half the food we paid for.

  15. Ophelia said:
    Sacha said:

    On 23/10/07 17:00, in article [email hidden],

    JoeSpareBedroom said:

    "Tim C." <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...
    > On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 16:46:15 +0100, "Ophelia" <[email hidden]> wrote:
    >
    >> Tim C. wrote:
    >>> On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 16:29:43 +0100, "Ophelia" <[email hidden]> wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> Putting the half a steak left on their *own* plate is a far cry
    >>>> from scraping down everyones plate and sticking THAT in a doggy
    >>>> bag
    >>>
    >>> Why?
    >>
    >> Why not?
    >>
    >> What they are saying is that restos in the US serve huge portions.
    >> They take what is left (on their *own* plates home to eat later.
    >>
    >> As I said, that is a far cry from having the scraping of
    >> everyone's plates
    >
    > I asked why is it a far cry from having the leftovers from other
    > people's plates? What is it exactly that you disapprove of?

    Digestion begins in the mouth. Not everyone cleans their fork before
    putting it back on the plate after each mouth visit. So, food is
    already decomposing on the plate due to transfer of saliva.

    Precisely so. That's one of the reasons mothers are taught to
    'decant' a baby's food into a small dish if the whole jar is not
    going to be eaten at one sitting. Dipping a spoon from the baby's
    mouth into the jar puts saliva into the food and starts the
    decomposition process of the food in the jar.

    But surely Sacha, if you were eating and decided to leave some till later,
    you wouldn't think that about your own food on the plate that you had used?

    Not my own but food others had been eating that contains their saliva.
    With babies you have to go that extra step and protect them from
    contaminated food, even if it's contaminated with their own saliva.
    But the very thought of eating food from someone else's left overs makes me
    heave. When my daughter did a student waitress job she said she was
    astonished at how many kitchen staff would do that as plates came back to
    the kitchen. And in that instance, they didn't even know who'd eaten from
    that plate.
    --
    Sacha

  16. Ophelia said:
    Sacha said:

    On 23/10/07 17:00, in article [email hidden],

    JoeSpareBedroom said:

    "Tim C." <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...
    > On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 16:46:15 +0100, "Ophelia" <[email hidden]> wrote:
    >
    >> Tim C. wrote:
    >>> On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 16:29:43 +0100, "Ophelia" <[email hidden]> wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> Putting the half a steak left on their *own* plate is a far cry
    >>>> from scraping down everyones plate and sticking THAT in a doggy
    >>>> bag
    >>>
    >>> Why?
    >>
    >> Why not?
    >>
    >> What they are saying is that restos in the US serve huge portions.
    >> They take what is left (on their *own* plates home to eat later.
    >>
    >> As I said, that is a far cry from having the scraping of
    >> everyone's plates
    >
    > I asked why is it a far cry from having the leftovers from other
    > people's plates? What is it exactly that you disapprove of?

    Digestion begins in the mouth. Not everyone cleans their fork before
    putting it back on the plate after each mouth visit. So, food is
    already decomposing on the plate due to transfer of saliva.

    Precisely so. That's one of the reasons mothers are taught to
    'decant' a baby's food into a small dish if the whole jar is not
    going to be eaten at one sitting. Dipping a spoon from the baby's
    mouth into the jar puts saliva into the food and starts the
    decomposition process of the food in the jar.

    But surely Sacha, if you were eating and decided to leave some till later,
    you wouldn't think that about your own food on the plate that you had used?

    Not my own but food others had been eating that contains their saliva.
    With babies you have to go that extra step and protect them from
    contaminated food, even if it's contaminated with their own saliva.
    But the very thought of eating food from someone else's left overs makes me
    heave. When my daughter did a student waitress job she said she was
    astonished at how many kitchen staff would do that as plates came back to
    the kitchen. And in that instance, they didn't even know who'd eaten from
    that plate.
    --
    Sacha

  17. "Ophelia" <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:

    The point was that the people who talked about that were in face, taking
    food from their own plate to take home. They never have regarded
    scrapings from other plates as ok.

    Yes, somehow taking home my own untouched piece of steak
    has turned into scraping off plates and serving it to guests.

    I don't really understand how other people eat, apparently they
    stick their used fork into all the food on their dish. Regardless,
    if people have some sort of aversion to taking food home, they
    don't have to. It's no big deal.

    nancy

  18. "Ophelia" <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:

    The point was that the people who talked about that were in face, taking
    food from their own plate to take home. They never have regarded
    scrapings from other plates as ok.

    Yes, somehow taking home my own untouched piece of steak
    has turned into scraping off plates and serving it to guests.

    I don't really understand how other people eat, apparently they
    stick their used fork into all the food on their dish. Regardless,
    if people have some sort of aversion to taking food home, they
    don't have to. It's no big deal.

    nancy

  19. Sacha said:
    Quoted message said:

    But surely Sacha, if you were eating and decided to leave some till
    later, you wouldn't think that about your own food on the plate that
    you had used?

    Not my own but food others had been eating that contains their saliva.

    Now that I can understand. But that is not what they were saying you see🙂

    Quoted message said:

    With babies you have to go that extra step and protect them from
    contaminated food, even if it's contaminated with their own saliva.

    Agreed!

    Quoted message said:

    But the very thought of eating food from someone else's left overs
    makes me heave. When my daughter did a student waitress job she said
    she was astonished at how many kitchen staff would do that as plates
    came back to the kitchen. And in that instance, they didn't even
    know who'd eaten from that plate.

    That is plain disgusting🙁(

  20. Sacha said:
    Quoted message said:

    But surely Sacha, if you were eating and decided to leave some till
    later, you wouldn't think that about your own food on the plate that
    you had used?

    Not my own but food others had been eating that contains their saliva.

    Now that I can understand. But that is not what they were saying you see🙂

    Quoted message said:

    With babies you have to go that extra step and protect them from
    contaminated food, even if it's contaminated with their own saliva.

    Agreed!

    Quoted message said:

    But the very thought of eating food from someone else's left overs
    makes me heave. When my daughter did a student waitress job she said
    she was astonished at how many kitchen staff would do that as plates
    came back to the kitchen. And in that instance, they didn't even
    know who'd eaten from that plate.

    That is plain disgusting🙁(

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