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  1. MSeries said:
    Nathaniel Porter said:

    What he said, but additionally, it is conventional to pass oncoming traffic on the left. I don't
    know if that's a legal requirement

    Left ?

    My left or the on coming traffic's left. Or to the left of the on coming traffic ? (i.e his or my
    right) :-)

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  2. MSeries said:
    Nathaniel Porter said:

    What he said, but additionally, it is conventional to pass oncoming traffic on the left. I don't
    know if that's a legal requirement

    Left ?

    'Vessels navigating narrow passages shall pass to starboard of one another'.

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    [email hidden] (Simon Brooke) jasmine.org.uk~simon

    Morning had broken. I found a rather battered tube of Araldite resin in the bottom of
    the toolbag.

  3. MSeries said:
    Nathaniel Porter said:

    What he said, but additionally, it is conventional to pass oncoming traffic on the left. I don't
    know if that's a legal requirement

    Left ?

    'Vessels navigating narrow passages shall pass to starboard of one another'.

    --
    [email hidden] (Simon Brooke) jasmine.org.uk~simon

    Morning had broken. I found a rather battered tube of Araldite resin in the bottom of
    the toolbag.

  4. MSeries said:
    Nathaniel Porter said:

    What he said, but additionally, it is conventional to pass oncoming traffic on the left. I don't
    know if that's a legal requirement

    Left ?

    My left or the on coming traffic's left. Or to the left of the on coming traffic ? (i.e his or my
    right) :-)

    --
    The Reply & From email addresses are checked rarely. mseries.freeserve.co.ukmseries.freeserve.co.uk

  5. MSeries said:
    Nathaniel Porter said:

    What he said, but additionally, it is conventional to pass oncoming traffic on the left. I don't
    know if that's a legal requirement

    Left ?

    'Vessels navigating narrow passages shall pass to starboard of one another'.

    --
    [email hidden] (Simon Brooke) jasmine.org.uk~simon

    Morning had broken. I found a rather battered tube of Araldite resin in the bottom of
    the toolbag.

  6. In article said:

    of a dual carriageway you then do a U-turn. Motorway regulations ban U-turns altogether, but it's
    not clear to me that it is quite illegal (rather than stupid) to end up going the wrong way on a
    dual carriageway at least until the next opportunity to cross onto the right (as in left)
    carriageway.

    I ended up going the wrong way on a dual carriageway recently, but only after instructed to by a
    policeman. (Road was blocked a mile or so ahead by a lorry on fire, they had blocked the junctions
    onto the road and were clearing the queue from the back by turning all the cars round (trucks didn't
    have room for a three-point turn, at least till one lane was cleared, and had to wait.) But except
    in situations like that, it's hard to see how it wouldn't be driving without due care and attention,
    even if no specific rule forbids
    it.

  7. In article said:

    of a dual carriageway you then do a U-turn. Motorway regulations ban U-turns altogether, but it's
    not clear to me that it is quite illegal (rather than stupid) to end up going the wrong way on a
    dual carriageway at least until the next opportunity to cross onto the right (as in left)
    carriageway.

    I ended up going the wrong way on a dual carriageway recently, but only after instructed to by a
    policeman. (Road was blocked a mile or so ahead by a lorry on fire, they had blocked the junctions
    onto the road and were clearing the queue from the back by turning all the cars round (trucks didn't
    have room for a three-point turn, at least till one lane was cleared, and had to wait.) But except
    in situations like that, it's hard to see how it wouldn't be driving without due care and attention,
    even if no specific rule forbids
    it.

  8. In article said:

    of a dual carriageway you then do a U-turn. Motorway regulations ban U-turns altogether, but it's
    not clear to me that it is quite illegal (rather than stupid) to end up going the wrong way on a
    dual carriageway at least until the next opportunity to cross onto the right (as in left)
    carriageway.

    I ended up going the wrong way on a dual carriageway recently, but only after instructed to by a
    policeman. (Road was blocked a mile or so ahead by a lorry on fire, they had blocked the junctions
    onto the road and were clearing the queue from the back by turning all the cars round (trucks didn't
    have room for a three-point turn, at least till one lane was cleared, and had to wait.) But except
    in situations like that, it's hard to see how it wouldn't be driving without due care and attention,
    even if no specific rule forbids
    it.

  9. Geraint Jones said:

    When cycling through a flood and confronted with an approaching dingy, skiff, punt, or other
    vessel drawing less water than is required to float your bicycle, to which side of it should you
    be expected to pass?

    Underneath. Hold your breath and go for the Bog snorkelling championship..

    However, should you meed a mounted knight or similar then you should pass right side to right side.
    Like wise with a car. If you take the European model of driving ont he right, it is much harder to
    gesticulate out of the window with the 'wrong' hand (apologies to lefties).

    ..d

  10. Geraint Jones said:

    When cycling through a flood and confronted with an approaching dingy, skiff, punt, or other
    vessel drawing less water than is required to float your bicycle, to which side of it should you
    be expected to pass?

    Underneath. Hold your breath and go for the Bog snorkelling championship..

    However, should you meed a mounted knight or similar then you should pass right side to right side.
    Like wise with a car. If you take the European model of driving ont he right, it is much harder to
    gesticulate out of the window with the 'wrong' hand (apologies to lefties).

    ..d

  11. Geraint Jones said:

    When cycling through a flood and confronted with an approaching dingy, skiff, punt, or other
    vessel drawing less water than is required to float your bicycle, to which side of it should you
    be expected to pass?

    Underneath. Hold your breath and go for the Bog snorkelling championship..

    However, should you meed a mounted knight or similar then you should pass right side to right side.
    Like wise with a car. If you take the European model of driving ont he right, it is much harder to
    gesticulate out of the window with the 'wrong' hand (apologies to lefties).

    ..d

  12. Geraint Jones said:


    When cycling through a flood and confronted with an approaching dingy, skiff, punt, or other
    vessel drawing less water than is required to float your bicycle, to which side of it should you
    be expected to pass?

    That would depend. The bicycle as a powered vessel must give way to a vessel propelled by oars, pole
    or paddles. However if you were fishing from your bicycle at the time, they would have to give way
    to you. They would also have to give way if your bicycle was "not under command" or broken down. Its
    best to know the rules of the sea before setting out on a bike in wet weather.

    Tony

  13. Geraint Jones said:


    When cycling through a flood and confronted with an approaching dingy, skiff, punt, or other
    vessel drawing less water than is required to float your bicycle, to which side of it should you
    be expected to pass?

    That would depend. The bicycle as a powered vessel must give way to a vessel propelled by oars, pole
    or paddles. However if you were fishing from your bicycle at the time, they would have to give way
    to you. They would also have to give way if your bicycle was "not under command" or broken down. Its
    best to know the rules of the sea before setting out on a bike in wet weather.

    Tony

  14. Geraint Jones said:


    When cycling through a flood and confronted with an approaching dingy, skiff, punt, or other
    vessel drawing less water than is required to float your bicycle, to which side of it should you
    be expected to pass?

    That would depend. The bicycle as a powered vessel must give way to a vessel propelled by oars, pole
    or paddles. However if you were fishing from your bicycle at the time, they would have to give way
    to you. They would also have to give way if your bicycle was "not under command" or broken down. Its
    best to know the rules of the sea before setting out on a bike in wet weather.

    Tony

  15. On 5/12/03 1:06 pm, in article [email hidden], "Henry

    Braun said:

    On Fri, 5 Dec 2003, Tony Raven wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    That would depend. The bicycle as a powered vessel must give way to a vessel propelled by oars,
    pole or paddles.

    Quoted message said:

    Where do you get the reference to poles from, out of interest? A poled punt is arguably
    constrained by reason of its draught---it can't manoeuvre once it's strayed out of the pole's
    depth---and the same reasoning ought to hold for bottom-propelled bicycles.

    But the bicycle doesn't have to be bottom propelled.

    Look here: shuttlebikeusa.comhowworks.html

    for the ultimate in all terrain biking.

    ..d

  16. On 5/12/03 1:06 pm, in article [email hidden], "Henry

    Braun said:

    On Fri, 5 Dec 2003, Tony Raven wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    That would depend. The bicycle as a powered vessel must give way to a vessel propelled by oars,
    pole or paddles.

    Quoted message said:

    Where do you get the reference to poles from, out of interest? A poled punt is arguably
    constrained by reason of its draught---it can't manoeuvre once it's strayed out of the pole's
    depth---and the same reasoning ought to hold for bottom-propelled bicycles.

    But the bicycle doesn't have to be bottom propelled.

    Look here: shuttlebikeusa.comhowworks.html

    for the ultimate in all terrain biking.

    ..d

  17. On 5/12/03 1:06 pm, in article [email hidden], "Henry

    Braun said:

    On Fri, 5 Dec 2003, Tony Raven wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    That would depend. The bicycle as a powered vessel must give way to a vessel propelled by oars,
    pole or paddles.

    Quoted message said:

    Where do you get the reference to poles from, out of interest? A poled punt is arguably
    constrained by reason of its draught---it can't manoeuvre once it's strayed out of the pole's
    depth---and the same reasoning ought to hold for bottom-propelled bicycles.

    But the bicycle doesn't have to be bottom propelled.

    Look here: shuttlebikeusa.comhowworks.html

    for the ultimate in all terrain biking.

    ..d

  18. Henry Braun said:
    Tony Raven said:

    That would depend. The bicycle as a powered vessel must give way to a vessel propelled by oars,
    pole or paddles.

    Where do you get the reference to poles from, out of interest? A poled punt is arguably
    constrained by reason of its draught---it can't manoeuvre once it's strayed out of the pole's
    depth---and the same reasoning ought to hold for bottom-propelled bicycles.

    I think this is in reference to a reverse Polish oarsman rather than the pole used on punts. But you
    raise a good point, I have checked the unabridged I'm a Massive Punt by Smith et al but can find no
    references to being out of ones depth with a short pole in it. I guess we're up [censored] creek.

  19. Henry Braun said:
    Tony Raven said:

    That would depend. The bicycle as a powered vessel must give way to a vessel propelled by oars,
    pole or paddles.

    Where do you get the reference to poles from, out of interest? A poled punt is arguably
    constrained by reason of its draught---it can't manoeuvre once it's strayed out of the pole's
    depth---and the same reasoning ought to hold for bottom-propelled bicycles.

    I think this is in reference to a reverse Polish oarsman rather than the pole used on punts. But you
    raise a good point, I have checked the unabridged I'm a Massive Punt by Smith et al but can find no
    references to being out of ones depth with a short pole in it. I guess we're up [censored] creek.

  20. Henry Braun said:
    Tony Raven said:

    That would depend. The bicycle as a powered vessel must give way to a vessel propelled by oars,
    pole or paddles.

    Where do you get the reference to poles from, out of interest? A poled punt is arguably
    constrained by reason of its draught---it can't manoeuvre once it's strayed out of the pole's
    depth---and the same reasoning ought to hold for bottom-propelled bicycles.

    I think this is in reference to a reverse Polish oarsman rather than the pole used on punts. But you
    raise a good point, I have checked the unabridged I'm a Massive Punt by Smith et al but can find no
    references to being out of ones depth with a short pole in it. I guess we're up [censored] creek.

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