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  1. Andy, shock, denial and acceptance. All part of the game.

    Now, get down to business. If you have any doubts about your diagnosis, ask
    for a referral to an endocrinologist. There are wonderful ones in Philly,
    and I know once you get hooked up with the right one (the right fit so to
    speak) and you understand just what is entailed with living with this
    disease you will be just fine. I was diagnosed Type 2 last July so I've
    only had it around a year and a half. If I told you I had mine under
    control, or that I was doing great with it, I would be lying to you, but it
    is possible. I have just recently wrapped my head around the fact that I
    need to lose the excess weight and watch what I eat or I will end up like so
    many of those who say that it couldn't happen to them, either blind, in a
    wheelchair or on dialysis. There are so many people that live with it on a
    regular basis and do well with it and it doesn't impede their lives in
    anyway except that they have to monitor their blood glucose.

    We can do it. Wanna be a team, we can have a group of us here that keep
    each other honest about what we are and aren't doing. Remember there is
    strength in numbers. There is a good book on the subject by Gretchen Becker
    called 'The First Year: Type 2 Diabetes'...I started to read it and it has a
    lot of good stuff in. You go, guy. Keep the faith. We're here for you.

    -ginny

  2. <<snippage>>

    Quoted message said:

    We can do it. Wanna be a team, we can have a group of us here that keep
    each other honest about what we are and aren't doing. Remember there is
    strength in numbers. There is a good book on the subject by Gretchen
    Becker called 'The First Year: Type 2 Diabetes'...I started to read it and
    it has a lot of good stuff in. You go, guy. Keep the faith. We're here
    for you.

    Until Andy's discussion, I did not realize how many diabetics there are on
    this board. I was diagnosed about 5 years ago. When it was at its worst I
    had several episodes where my sugar got to 600 because I also had to take
    steroids and was having. My doctor does not diagnose at 120, that's just a
    watch it number. If fact, when I worked for an internist about 10 years ago
    the normal range went all the way to 120. Now I am diabetic medication free,
    cholesterol problem free and

    Thanks Ginny for bringing up the fellowship since it seems there are lots of
    us here.

    Cindi

    Quoted message said:


    -ginny

  3. <<snippage>>

    Quoted message said:

    We can do it. Wanna be a team, we can have a group of us here that keep
    each other honest about what we are and aren't doing. Remember there is
    strength in numbers. There is a good book on the subject by Gretchen
    Becker called 'The First Year: Type 2 Diabetes'...I started to read it and
    it has a lot of good stuff in. You go, guy. Keep the faith. We're here
    for you.

    Until Andy's discussion, I did not realize how many diabetics there are on
    this board. I was diagnosed about 5 years ago. When it was at its worst I
    had several episodes where my sugar got to 600 because I also had to take
    steroids and was having. My doctor does not diagnose at 120, that's just a
    watch it number. If fact, when I worked for an internist about 10 years ago
    the normal range went all the way to 120. Now I am diabetic medication free,
    cholesterol problem free and

    Thanks Ginny for bringing up the fellowship since it seems there are lots of
    us here.

    Cindi

    Quoted message said:


    -ginny

  4. Cindi - HappyMamatoThree said:

    Until Andy's discussion, I did not realize how many diabetics there are on
    this board. I was diagnosed about 5 years ago. When it was at its worst I
    had several episodes where my sugar got to 600 because I also had to take
    steroids and was having. My doctor does not diagnose at 120, that's just a
    watch it number. If fact, when I worked for an internist about 10 years ago
    the normal range went all the way to 120. Now I am diabetic medication free,
    cholesterol problem free and

    Over the past 10 years the number gets lower and lower.

  5. Cindi - HappyMamatoThree said:

    Until Andy's discussion, I did not realize how many diabetics there are on
    this board. I was diagnosed about 5 years ago. When it was at its worst I
    had several episodes where my sugar got to 600 because I also had to take
    steroids and was having. My doctor does not diagnose at 120, that's just a
    watch it number. If fact, when I worked for an internist about 10 years ago
    the normal range went all the way to 120. Now I am diabetic medication free,
    cholesterol problem free and

    Over the past 10 years the number gets lower and lower.

  6. Virginia Tadrzynski said:

    Andy, shock, denial and acceptance. All part of the game.

    Now, get down to business. If you have any doubts about your
    diagnosis, ask for a referral to an endocrinologist. There are
    wonderful ones in Philly, and I know once you get hooked up with the
    right one (the right fit so to speak) and you understand just what is
    entailed with living with this disease you will be just fine.

    There are a lot of wonderful diabetic cookbooks available. You don't have
    to live "without", just make some adjustments. My aunt was diagnosed back
    in the 1940's and she did just fine. She was a darned fine cook, too 🙂

    Jill

  7. Virginia Tadrzynski said:

    Andy, shock, denial and acceptance. All part of the game.

    Now, get down to business. If you have any doubts about your
    diagnosis, ask for a referral to an endocrinologist. There are
    wonderful ones in Philly, and I know once you get hooked up with the
    right one (the right fit so to speak) and you understand just what is
    entailed with living with this disease you will be just fine.

    There are a lot of wonderful diabetic cookbooks available. You don't have
    to live "without", just make some adjustments. My aunt was diagnosed back
    in the 1940's and she did just fine. She was a darned fine cook, too 🙂

    Jill

  8. "Cindi - HappyMamatoThree" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    <<snippage>>

    Quoted message said:

    We can do it. Wanna be a team, we can have a group of us here that keep
    each other honest about what we are and aren't doing. Remember there is
    strength in numbers. There is a good book on the subject by Gretchen
    Becker called 'The First Year: Type 2 Diabetes'...I started to read it
    and it has a lot of good stuff in. You go, guy. Keep the faith. We're
    here for you.

    Until Andy's discussion, I did not realize how many diabetics there are on
    this board. I was diagnosed about 5 years ago. When it was at its worst I
    had several episodes where my sugar got to 600 because I also had to take
    steroids and was having. My doctor does not diagnose at 120, that's just a
    watch it number. If fact, when I worked for an internist about 10 years
    ago the normal range went all the way to 120. Now I am diabetic medication
    free, cholesterol problem free and

    Thanks Ginny for bringing up the fellowship since it seems there are lots
    of us here.

    In my real life, I know just about as many diabetics as I do non-diabetics.
    That's just friends, family and people I happen to meet. I am no longer in
    a diabetes support group. Seems like every week or so I learn of a new one.

  9. "Cindi - HappyMamatoThree" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    <<snippage>>

    Quoted message said:

    We can do it. Wanna be a team, we can have a group of us here that keep
    each other honest about what we are and aren't doing. Remember there is
    strength in numbers. There is a good book on the subject by Gretchen
    Becker called 'The First Year: Type 2 Diabetes'...I started to read it
    and it has a lot of good stuff in. You go, guy. Keep the faith. We're
    here for you.

    Until Andy's discussion, I did not realize how many diabetics there are on
    this board. I was diagnosed about 5 years ago. When it was at its worst I
    had several episodes where my sugar got to 600 because I also had to take
    steroids and was having. My doctor does not diagnose at 120, that's just a
    watch it number. If fact, when I worked for an internist about 10 years
    ago the normal range went all the way to 120. Now I am diabetic medication
    free, cholesterol problem free and

    Thanks Ginny for bringing up the fellowship since it seems there are lots
    of us here.

    In my real life, I know just about as many diabetics as I do non-diabetics.
    That's just friends, family and people I happen to meet. I am no longer in
    a diabetes support group. Seems like every week or so I learn of a new one.

  10. "jmcquown" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Virginia Tadrzynski said:

    Andy, shock, denial and acceptance. All part of the game.

    Now, get down to business. If you have any doubts about your
    diagnosis, ask for a referral to an endocrinologist. There are
    wonderful ones in Philly, and I know once you get hooked up with the
    right one (the right fit so to speak) and you understand just what is
    entailed with living with this disease you will be just fine.

    There are a lot of wonderful diabetic cookbooks available. You don't have
    to live "without", just make some adjustments. My aunt was diagnosed back
    in the 1940's and she did just fine. She was a darned fine cook, too 🙂

    I've yet to find one. All the ones I bought had all sorts of desserts in
    them. I generally don't eat desserts to begin with. Most all of the
    recipes have far more carbs than I can safely eat, and many of the recipes
    called for weird stuff I wouldn't normally buy. Like canned biscuits!

    I find most any of the newer cookbooks have nutritional information and that
    works just fine for me. I might have to make some substitutions to make it
    less carby. I also get a lot of recipes from allrecipes.com. Not only does
    it give me nutritional information, but the recipes are rated.

    In the beginning, for many things, I put the food in a square or rectangular
    baking dish and baked it. I simply added up all the carbs for the recipe
    and then figured out how many portions to cut it into to get the amount I
    needed to eat.

    If I made soup, I cooked the starchy stuff separately so I could add as much
    or as little as I needed to my portion.

    Mostly, I ate a lot of salads, making them more substantial by adding kidney
    or black beans, and maybe some cheese or eggs.

    It gets easier with time. Now we have food allergies too. That really
    complicates things!

  11. "jmcquown" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Virginia Tadrzynski said:

    Andy, shock, denial and acceptance. All part of the game.

    Now, get down to business. If you have any doubts about your
    diagnosis, ask for a referral to an endocrinologist. There are
    wonderful ones in Philly, and I know once you get hooked up with the
    right one (the right fit so to speak) and you understand just what is
    entailed with living with this disease you will be just fine.

    There are a lot of wonderful diabetic cookbooks available. You don't have
    to live "without", just make some adjustments. My aunt was diagnosed back
    in the 1940's and she did just fine. She was a darned fine cook, too 🙂

    I've yet to find one. All the ones I bought had all sorts of desserts in
    them. I generally don't eat desserts to begin with. Most all of the
    recipes have far more carbs than I can safely eat, and many of the recipes
    called for weird stuff I wouldn't normally buy. Like canned biscuits!

    I find most any of the newer cookbooks have nutritional information and that
    works just fine for me. I might have to make some substitutions to make it
    less carby. I also get a lot of recipes from allrecipes.com. Not only does
    it give me nutritional information, but the recipes are rated.

    In the beginning, for many things, I put the food in a square or rectangular
    baking dish and baked it. I simply added up all the carbs for the recipe
    and then figured out how many portions to cut it into to get the amount I
    needed to eat.

    If I made soup, I cooked the starchy stuff separately so I could add as much
    or as little as I needed to my portion.

    Mostly, I ate a lot of salads, making them more substantial by adding kidney
    or black beans, and maybe some cheese or eggs.

    It gets easier with time. Now we have food allergies too. That really
    complicates things!

  12. Julie Bove said:

    "jmcquown" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Virginia Tadrzynski said:

    Andy, shock, denial and acceptance. All part of the game.

    Now, get down to business. If you have any doubts about your
    diagnosis, ask for a referral to an endocrinologist. There are
    wonderful ones in Philly, and I know once you get hooked up with the
    right one (the right fit so to speak) and you understand just what
    is entailed with living with this disease you will be just fine.

    There are a lot of wonderful diabetic cookbooks available. You
    don't have to live "without", just make some adjustments. My aunt
    was diagnosed back in the 1940's and she did just fine. She was a
    darned fine cook, too 🙂

    I've yet to find one. All the ones I bought had all sorts of
    desserts in them. I generally don't eat desserts to begin with.
    Most all of the recipes have far more carbs than I can safely eat,
    and many of the recipes called for weird stuff I wouldn't normally
    buy. Like canned biscuits!


    Okay, I'll grant you that. For some reason almost all diabetics seem to
    want to eat sugar and carbs. Hello, you're not supposed to do that! But
    then, you aren't supposed to make that your regular meal plan, diabetic or
    not. Mostly it's common sense cooking. Lower fat, lower carbs but none of
    that eat nothing but meat all day every day stuff. My cookbooks date back
    to the 1950's and while they didn't specifically spell out grams of fat,
    carbs, calories, etc. the ones from the 1970's certainly started adding
    that.

    Quoted message said:

    It gets easier with time. Now we have food allergies too. That
    really complicates things!

    I thank the lord I'm not allergic to anything. I cannot imagine life
    without a slice of bread once a week.

    Jill

  13. Julie Bove said:

    "jmcquown" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Virginia Tadrzynski said:

    Andy, shock, denial and acceptance. All part of the game.

    Now, get down to business. If you have any doubts about your
    diagnosis, ask for a referral to an endocrinologist. There are
    wonderful ones in Philly, and I know once you get hooked up with the
    right one (the right fit so to speak) and you understand just what
    is entailed with living with this disease you will be just fine.

    There are a lot of wonderful diabetic cookbooks available. You
    don't have to live "without", just make some adjustments. My aunt
    was diagnosed back in the 1940's and she did just fine. She was a
    darned fine cook, too 🙂

    I've yet to find one. All the ones I bought had all sorts of
    desserts in them. I generally don't eat desserts to begin with.
    Most all of the recipes have far more carbs than I can safely eat,
    and many of the recipes called for weird stuff I wouldn't normally
    buy. Like canned biscuits!


    Okay, I'll grant you that. For some reason almost all diabetics seem to
    want to eat sugar and carbs. Hello, you're not supposed to do that! But
    then, you aren't supposed to make that your regular meal plan, diabetic or
    not. Mostly it's common sense cooking. Lower fat, lower carbs but none of
    that eat nothing but meat all day every day stuff. My cookbooks date back
    to the 1950's and while they didn't specifically spell out grams of fat,
    carbs, calories, etc. the ones from the 1970's certainly started adding
    that.

    Quoted message said:

    It gets easier with time. Now we have food allergies too. That
    really complicates things!

    I thank the lord I'm not allergic to anything. I cannot imagine life
    without a slice of bread once a week.

    Jill

  14. "jmcquown" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I thank the lord I'm not allergic to anything. I cannot imagine life
    without a slice of bread once a week.

    Jill

    In my case, several slices a day. I love bread and eat plenty of it.
    However, I do say to myself EVERY time I get a gnawing in my stomach, do not
    eat bread, and will eat something more complex.

    Probably I use bread as a substitute for dessert for the sugar content it
    does turn into, which is probably the reason that I don't eat dessert too
    often -- is ice cream a dessert?

    Dee Dee

  15. "jmcquown" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I thank the lord I'm not allergic to anything. I cannot imagine life
    without a slice of bread once a week.

    Jill

    In my case, several slices a day. I love bread and eat plenty of it.
    However, I do say to myself EVERY time I get a gnawing in my stomach, do not
    eat bread, and will eat something more complex.

    Probably I use bread as a substitute for dessert for the sugar content it
    does turn into, which is probably the reason that I don't eat dessert too
    often -- is ice cream a dessert?

    Dee Dee

  16. jmcquown said:
    Julie Bove said:

    "jmcquown" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Virginia Tadrzynski wrote:
    > Andy, shock, denial and acceptance. All part of the game.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > Now, get down to business. If you have any doubts about your
    > diagnosis, ask for a referral to an endocrinologist. There are
    > wonderful ones in Philly, and I know once you get hooked up with the
    > right one (the right fit so to speak) and you understand just what
    > is entailed with living with this disease you will be just fine.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    There are a lot of wonderful diabetic cookbooks available. You
    don't have to live "without", just make some adjustments. My aunt
    was diagnosed back in the 1940's and she did just fine. She was a
    darned fine cook, too 🙂

    Quoted message said:

    I've yet to find one. All the ones I bought had all sorts of
    desserts in them. I generally don't eat desserts to begin with.
    Most all of the recipes have far more carbs than I can safely eat,
    and many of the recipes called for weird stuff I wouldn't normally
    buy. Like canned biscuits!

    Okay, I'll grant you that. For some reason almost all diabetics seem to
    want to eat sugar and carbs. Hello, you're not supposed to do that! But
    then, you aren't supposed to make that your regular meal plan, diabetic or
    not. Mostly it's common sense cooking. Lower fat, lower carbs but none of
    that eat nothing but meat all day every day stuff. My cookbooks date back
    to the 1950's and while they didn't specifically spell out grams of fat,
    carbs, calories, etc. the ones from the 1970's certainly started adding
    that.

    Quoted message said:

    It gets easier with time. Now we have food allergies too. That
    really complicates things!

    I thank the lord I'm not allergic to anything. I cannot imagine life
    without a slice of bread once a week.

    Thinking of carbs like bread as a treat, not a staple, is all most
    people need to stay within normal papameters.

    Quoted message said:


    Jill

    --Bryan

  17. jmcquown said:
    Julie Bove said:

    "jmcquown" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Virginia Tadrzynski wrote:
    > Andy, shock, denial and acceptance. All part of the game.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > Now, get down to business. If you have any doubts about your
    > diagnosis, ask for a referral to an endocrinologist. There are
    > wonderful ones in Philly, and I know once you get hooked up with the
    > right one (the right fit so to speak) and you understand just what
    > is entailed with living with this disease you will be just fine.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    There are a lot of wonderful diabetic cookbooks available. You
    don't have to live "without", just make some adjustments. My aunt
    was diagnosed back in the 1940's and she did just fine. She was a
    darned fine cook, too 🙂

    Quoted message said:

    I've yet to find one. All the ones I bought had all sorts of
    desserts in them. I generally don't eat desserts to begin with.
    Most all of the recipes have far more carbs than I can safely eat,
    and many of the recipes called for weird stuff I wouldn't normally
    buy. Like canned biscuits!

    Okay, I'll grant you that. For some reason almost all diabetics seem to
    want to eat sugar and carbs. Hello, you're not supposed to do that! But
    then, you aren't supposed to make that your regular meal plan, diabetic or
    not. Mostly it's common sense cooking. Lower fat, lower carbs but none of
    that eat nothing but meat all day every day stuff. My cookbooks date back
    to the 1950's and while they didn't specifically spell out grams of fat,
    carbs, calories, etc. the ones from the 1970's certainly started adding
    that.

    Quoted message said:

    It gets easier with time. Now we have food allergies too. That
    really complicates things!

    I thank the lord I'm not allergic to anything. I cannot imagine life
    without a slice of bread once a week.

    Thinking of carbs like bread as a treat, not a staple, is all most
    people need to stay within normal papameters.

    Quoted message said:


    Jill

    --Bryan

  18. Dee.Dee said:

    "jmcquown" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I thank the lord I'm not allergic to anything. I cannot imagine life
    without a slice of bread once a week.

    Quoted message said:

    Jill

    In my case, several slices a day. I love bread and eat plenty of it.
    However, I do say to myself EVERY time I get a gnawing in my stomach, do not
    eat bread, and will eat something more complex.

    Probably I use bread as a substitute for dessert for the sugar content it
    does turn into, which is probably the reason that I don't eat dessert too
    often -- is ice cream a dessert?

    Yes, and given the choice between bread and ice cream, I'd choose ice
    cream every time.

    Quoted message said:


    Dee Dee

    --Bryan

  19. Dee.Dee said:

    "jmcquown" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I thank the lord I'm not allergic to anything. I cannot imagine life
    without a slice of bread once a week.

    Quoted message said:

    Jill

    In my case, several slices a day. I love bread and eat plenty of it.
    However, I do say to myself EVERY time I get a gnawing in my stomach, do not
    eat bread, and will eat something more complex.

    Probably I use bread as a substitute for dessert for the sugar content it
    does turn into, which is probably the reason that I don't eat dessert too
    often -- is ice cream a dessert?

    Yes, and given the choice between bread and ice cream, I'd choose ice
    cream every time.

    Quoted message said:


    Dee Dee

    --Bryan

  20. "Bobo Bonobo®" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Dee.Dee said:

    "jmcquown" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I thank the lord I'm not allergic to anything. I cannot imagine life
    without a slice of bread once a week.

    Quoted message said:

    Jill

    In my case, several slices a day. I love bread and eat plenty of it.
    However, I do say to myself EVERY time I get a gnawing in my stomach, do
    not
    eat bread, and will eat something more complex.

    Probably I use bread as a substitute for dessert for the sugar content it
    does turn into, which is probably the reason that I don't eat dessert too
    often -- is ice cream a dessert?

    Yes, and given the choice between bread and ice cream, I'd choose ice
    cream every time.

    Not me. I never liked ice cream.

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