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<sf> wrote in messagenews:[email hidden]... > On Sat, 24 Nov 2007 16:57:47 GMT, blake murphy <[email hidden]> > wrote:
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>>or maybe it's some kind of residual puritan idea that folks are being >>punished by god, who seems to go in for that sort of thing.
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> We don't have to blame the Puritans. We have plenty of modern day > bible thumpers who think that way.
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It would be interesting to view a survey of rfc'ers of their religious beliefs. Dee Dee
I'm agnostic at best.
I'm atheist, but I recognize that it is fellow atheists who have been the worst villains in history, at least in total numbers. When you add up Stalin and Pol Pot...
what difference does that make? believing in god doesn't guarantee you won't be a villain, just as being an atheist doesn't mean you have no morals.
also, it doesn't take killing people to be a tyrant causing great misery.
You mean an Alfa? Like a Spyder? I used to have a Fiat Bertone X-1/9. A piece of [censored] in some ways, but a joy to drive when it wasn't at Tony's Car Repair.
We had a Fiat Spider for years. I always said it was made on a Tuesday.... because we never had problems with it until it got old and was supposed to have problems.
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> Hon, are you intoxicated? LOL... Just kidding. A Mercedes? Not in this > lifetime. Gimme a Jeep anytime.
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I want a Saab. 🙂
I've already had my dream -- Alpha (top down - Hawaii). Sigh- nothing to aspire to.
You mean an Alfa? Like a Spyder? I used to have a Fiat Bertone X-1/9. A piece of [censored] in some ways, but a joy to drive when it wasn't at Tony's Car Repair.
The car I want, they stopped making in 1989... by the time I can afford to be choosy about another used car, I'm afraid it will be even harder to find one. 🙁
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> On Sat, 24 Nov 2007 23:35:43 -0800, Dan Abel <[email hidden]> > wrote: >>In article <[email hidden]>, >> Wayne Boatwright <[email hidden]> wrote: >> >>> Oh pshaw, on Fri 23 Nov 2007 06:18:15p, meant to say... >>> >>> > On Fri, 23 Nov 2007 16:38:36 -0800, Dan Abel <[email hidden]> >>> > wrote: >>> > >>> >> Serene <[email hidden]> wrote: >>> >> >>> >>> Why would you blame a person's mental illness on her parents? >>> >> >>> >>Children learn from their parents. When one is insane, and the >>> >>other avoids the family, then the child learns from that >>> >>parent. When the primary role model is insane, the child has no >>> >>choice
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>>> >>to learn that. >>> >> >>> >>Personal experience. It hasn't been pretty. >>> > >>> > I learned a few years ago from a psychologist that a person can
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>>> > driven insane. It's especially true for children because they >>> > don't have many (sane) life experiences to fall back on for a >>> > reality check. >>> >>> If I'm going to be driven there, make it at least in a mercedes. >> >>You've got it. Of course, if you are going to be insane, it will >>be
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>>virtual MercedesBenz. > > Channeling Janis Joplin..... > > "Oh Lord, won't you buy me a Mercedes Benz ? > My friends all drive Porsches, I must make amends. > Worked hard all my lifetime, no help from my friends, > So Lord, won’t you buy me a Mercedes Benz ?"
Hon, are you intoxicated? LOL... Just kidding. A Mercedes? Not in
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lifetime. Gimme a Jeep anytime.
I want a Saab. 🙂
I just bought a new Nissan Murano. Not sure how I'm going to like it. I kept the Jeep... Just in case. The Jeep is 10 years old. I pay cash for my cars but I put money into a savings account every month just like a car payment. The Murano was all I could afford but I really wanted a BMW X5. Those puppies are FAST. Besides, I did not want leather seats. Leather in St. Louis sucks.
So, you're a Saab snob 😉
Kind of amusing considering I currently drive a Ford Tempo (a stick shift, at least!)
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Michael <- likes Volvos but everyone in the neighborhood has one or more of them
My parents used to drive old Volvos. Before that, they had a red and white VW microbus with the words "Too much magic bus" that my mother painted on the back...
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Michael <- likes Volvos but everyone in the neighborhood has one or more of them
The problem I see with Volvos is they turn you into a crappy driver. Or is it a chicken/egg thing? Heh.
When I drove a Lancia, my kids wanted me to drive a Volvo. Those were the days of the commercial when they pushed on off a cliff. The kids tried to convince me to switch for the safety factor. They were still in elementary school and real conformists. All the other moms were driving Volvos and I didn't conform.
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On Sat, 24 Nov 2007 23:35:43 -0800, Dan Abel <[email hidden]> wrote: > In article <[email hidden]>, > Wayne Boatwright <[email hidden]> wrote: > >> Oh pshaw, on Fri 23 Nov 2007 06:18:15p, meant to say... >> >>> On Fri, 23 Nov 2007 16:38:36 -0800, Dan Abel <[email hidden]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Serene <[email hidden]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Why would you blame a person's mental illness on her parents? >>>> >>>> Children learn from their parents. When one is insane, and the >>>> other avoids the family, then the child learns from that parent. >>>> When the primary role model is insane, the child has no choice >>>> but to learn that. >>>> >>>> Personal experience. It hasn't been pretty. >>> >>> I learned a few years ago from a psychologist that a person can >>> be driven insane. It's especially true for children because they >>> don't have many (sane) life experiences to fall back on for a >>> reality check. >> >> If I'm going to be driven there, make it at least in a mercedes. > > You've got it. Of course, if you are going to be insane, it will > be a virtual MercedesBenz.
Channeling Janis Joplin.....
"Oh Lord, won't you buy me a Mercedes Benz ? My friends all drive Porsches, I must make amends. Worked hard all my lifetime, no help from my friends, So Lord, won’t you buy me a Mercedes Benz ?"
Hon, are you intoxicated? LOL... Just kidding. A Mercedes? Not in this lifetime. Gimme a Jeep anytime.
I want a Saab. 🙂
I have a shogun and my last was a Miata <G> I don't have any other fancies for cars
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> sf dropped this news:[email hidden]: in > rec.food.cooking > >> On Sat, 24 Nov 2007 23:35:43 -0800, Dan Abel <[email hidden]> >> wrote: >>>In article <[email hidden]>, >>> Wayne Boatwright <[email hidden]> wrote: >>> >>>> Oh pshaw, on Fri 23 Nov 2007 06:18:15p, meant to say... >>>> >>>> > On Fri, 23 Nov 2007 16:38:36 -0800, Dan Abel <[email hidden]> >>>> > wrote: >>>> > >>>> >> Serene <[email hidden]> wrote: >>>> >> >>>> >>> Why would you blame a person's mental illness on her parents? >>>> >> >>>> >>Children learn from their parents. When one is insane, and the >>>> >>other avoids the family, then the child learns from that >>>> >>parent. When the primary role model is insane, the child has no >>>> >>choice but >>>> >>to learn that. >>>> >> >>>> >>Personal experience. It hasn't been pretty. >>>> > >>>> > I learned a few years ago from a psychologist that a person can be >>>> > driven insane. It's especially true for children because they >>>> > don't have many (sane) life experiences to fall back on for a >>>> > reality check. >>>> >>>> If I'm going to be driven there, make it at least in a mercedes. >>> >>>You've got it. Of course, if you are going to be insane, it will >>>be a >>>virtual MercedesBenz. >> >> Channeling Janis Joplin..... >> >> "Oh Lord, won't you buy me a Mercedes Benz ? >> My friends all drive Porsches, I must make amends. >> Worked hard all my lifetime, no help from my friends, >> So Lord, won’t you buy me a Mercedes Benz ?" > > Hon, are you intoxicated? LOL... Just kidding. A Mercedes? Not in this > lifetime. Gimme a Jeep anytime. >
I want a Saab. 🙂
I just bought a new Nissan Murano. Not sure how I'm going to like it. I kept the Jeep... Just in case. The Jeep is 10 years old. I pay cash for my cars but I put money into a savings account every month just like a car payment. The Murano was all I could afford but I really wanted a BMW X5. Those puppies are FAST. Besides, I did not want leather seats. Leather in St. Louis sucks.
So, you're a Saab snob 😉
Kind of amusing considering I currently drive a Ford Tempo (a stick shift, at least!)
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Michael <- likes Volvos but everyone in the neighborhood has one or more of them
My parents used to drive old Volvos. Before that, they had a red and white VW microbus with the words "Too much magic bus" that my mother painted on the back...
The magic bus... What a hoot.
Michael
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I'm atheist, but I recognize that it is fellow atheists who have been the worst villains in history, at least in total numbers. When you add up Stalin and Pol Pot... Marx described the church in Germany at the time as "opium." In modern America, I would say that it is sports that is the opium (GO TIGERS!), giving people something to feel like winners about when they are obviously losing in the cold war of class relations. The Christians in this country have been at the forefront of most of the positive, progressive movements. That said, the Religious Right are my sworn enemies. Anyway, America has one TRUE RELIGION, as described in The Bonobos' lyrics:
I swear though, what I find most profound is the people on death row. They all of a sudden find religion. They butcher up countless people and then they find religion. Blows my mind. I interviewed a serial killer's father. I will not go into detail... ever but I will say the father said his son was a killer from the outset. This is from my crime group I used to sub to. BTW, do you know Cheech Maron? He is a friend of mine. I think you 2 would hit it off.
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Yeah, Right
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I got some buddies who tell me they're Christian Yeah, right. And I've got some friends, you know they tell me they're Pagan Yeah, right. This guy that I work with, he says he's a Muslim Yeah, right But we all bow down for the worship of Mammon Allright! We all bow down 'cause we're worshippin' Mammon Allright! We all bow down 'cause we're worshippin' Mammon Allright! And we'll all bow down 'cause we're worshippin' Mammon tonight Let's go!
Rock on... I love it.
I sent you the mp3 of the studio version (off our 7"😉
Got it.
Michael
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You mean an Alfa? Like a Spyder? I used to have a Fiat Bertone X-1/9. A piece of [censored] in some ways, but a joy to drive when it wasn't at Tony's Car Repair.
We had a Fiat Spider for years. I always said it was made on a Tuesday.... because we never had problems with it until it got old and was supposed to have problems.
My Alfa wasn't a piece of [censored]. The people who always attended to Alpha R.'s warranty were in the same dealership as Jaguar in California and something else - Mercedes? - in Washington State. It was nice to not have your car attended by some guy that looked and acted like a total idiot. It was not until we moved to Hawaii that it fell under the auspices of the Ford dealership for warranty. Then when we came to Virginia, we had no choice but to take it to another 'one size fits all' repair shop near Washington, D.C.
I sold the car to a kid from PA. It was his graduation present. I was thrilled to see that someone nice got the car. The car served me well and was a lot of fun to drive. Dee Dee
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or maybe it's some kind of residual puritan idea that folks are being punished by god, who seems to go in for that sort of thing.
Or maybe just "DESTROY THE DIFFERENT ONE! DIFFERENT BAD! UG!"
Beat that for a dark view of human nature.
(Also, mental illness is defined as "[blah blah blah ...] and they bother people. Until you bother people in some way, you can be as crazy as an outhouse rat and nobody will call you mentally ill.)
true. or if you're very, very good at something (chess, athletics, art) you can still bug the [censored] out of people.
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On Sun, 25 Nov 2007 11:46:37 -0500, "Nancy Young" <[email hidden]>
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"Michael "Dog3"" <[email hidden]> wrote
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of them
The problem I see with Volvos is they turn you into a crappy driver. Or is it a chicken/egg thing? Heh.
When I drove a Lancia, my kids wanted me to drive a Volvo. Those were the days of the commercial when they pushed on off a cliff. The kids tried to convince me to switch for the safety factor. They were still in elementary school and real conformists. All the other moms were driving Volvos and I didn't conform.
Oh pshaw, on Sun 25 Nov 2007 10:21:22a, Dee.Dee meant to say...
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"Wayne Boatwright" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> Right.
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Since I have no further aspirations in the auto department, I think
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just get dressed and take a mile walk on my own trail and listen to the birds and look at the beautiful skies. I believe the Indians traversed here. I'll give thanks for their land which I have purchased.
Toodle-doo. Dee Dee
$24 in beads?
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Sorry to say, wampum has spiraled due to devaluation of the dollar. I'd have to give it back, I think. Dee Dee
I wouldn't worry to much. I don't think they scalp people anymore. :-)
Oh pshaw, on Sun 25 Nov 2007 10:54:26a, blake murphy meant to say...
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Oh pshaw, on Sat 24 Nov 2007 10:09:25a, blake murphy meant to say...
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On Sat, 24 Nov 2007 01:32:16 GMT, Wayne Boatwright <[email hidden]> wrote:
>Oh pshaw, on Fri 23 Nov 2007 06:18:15p, meant to say... > >> On Fri, 23 Nov 2007 16:38:36 -0800, Dan Abel <[email hidden]> wrote: >> >>>In article <[email hidden]>, >>> Serene <[email hidden]> wrote: >>> >>>> Abe wrote: >>>> >> jmcquown wrote: >>>> >>> She's one of those people, if she doesn't know what it is it >>>> >>> must be terrible. If anyone mentioned sourdough she'd freak. >>>> >>> WHATEVER. >>>> >> I'd advise to steer clear of mental cases like her. There's >>>> >> clearly something screwy in her upbringing that has affected >>>> >> this way. I don't think she sees that she has a choice in the >>>> >> matter. It's called a mental illness. >>>> >>>> Why would you blame a person's mental illness on her parents? >>> >>> >>>Personal experience. >>> >>>Children learn from their parents. When one is insane, and the other >>>avoids the family, then the child learns from that parent. When the >>>primary role model is insane, the child has no choice but to learn >>>that. >>> >>>Personal experience. It hasn't been pretty. >> >> I learned a few years ago from a psychologist that a person can be >> driven insane. It's especially true for children because they don't >> have many (sane) life experiences to fall back on for a reality
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>> > >If I'm going to be driven there, make it at least in a mercedes.
...with a few stops at saloons along the way.
your pal, blake
Make that a Mercedes limo with a bar. :-)
oh-oh! an open container! hit the siren, charlie...
your pal, blake
They're coming to take me away, ha ha!
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Oh pshaw, on Sun 25 Nov 2007 02:34:41a, Michael "Dog3" meant to say...
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On Sat, 24 Nov 2007 16:57:47 GMT, blake murphy <[email hidden]> wrote:
>or maybe it's some kind of residual puritan idea that folks are being >punished by god, who seems to go in for that sort of thing.
We don't have to blame the Puritans. We have plenty of modern day bible thumpers who think that way.
It would be interesting to view a survey of rfc'ers of their religious beliefs. Dee Dee
I'm agnostic at best.
Michael
And, at worst?
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Date: Sun, 11/25/2007
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On Sun, 25 Nov 2007 12:36:35 -0500, "cybercat" <[email hidden]>
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I WANT leather seats!
I've always had leather seats. They rock big time.
Here's the way it went with me -- I got leather seats and proceeded to cover them with the fluffy wool - IIRC they were "Napa Valley Wool seatcovers." Lordy, my!
Actually it probably saved the leather, as DH was just too darned big to ride in a small car. He has a way of destroying seats. Dee Dee
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On Sun, 25 Nov 2007 12:36:35 -0500, "cybercat" <[email hidden]>
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I WANT leather seats!
I've always had leather seats. They rock big time.
Here's the way it went with me -- I got leather seats and proceeded to cover them with the fluffy wool - IIRC they were "Napa Valley Wool seatcovers." Lordy, my!
Actually it probably saved the leather, as DH was just too darned big to ride in a small car. He has a way of destroying seats.
I've never resorted to seat covers. Hubby isn't a "big guy" by any stretch of the imagination, so he's easy on seats too. In fact, he babies our cars so much that sometimes I think we should take a tax deduction on them.
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Actually it probably saved the leather, as DH was just too darned big to ride in a small car. He has a way of destroying seats.
I've never resorted to seat covers. Hubby isn't a "big guy" by any stretch of the imagination, so he's easy on seats too. In fact, he babies our cars so much that sometimes I think we should take a tax deduction on them.
You're a bit lucky.
DH treats every car we have as though it were a pick-up. An old one at that. Grrrh! That's why those 'rednecks' (years ago, but I still remember) who came up beside our beat-up pick-up (in their beat-up rusty old car) and banged on the sides of their car and started yelling, "Who let the dogs out." Not a pretty site. LOL.
