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  1. Hey everyone. Was just looking for a little advice from some of the
    commuter guys and girls on these forums. I am currently training to do
    a uni tour mid way through next year (details when it gets closer to
    fruition!).

    I've got a nimbus 36" with t7, airfoil and 152 mm cranks. So far i have
    found it to be a really nice ride for hills, but a little cumbersome
    for flat sections that could be done easier with shorter cranks. I know
    people ride 110's and even smaller for flat fast sections- but lugging
    around a crank puller and a spare set of cranks for a ride is not
    ideal. So i am asking if anyone has gone and got their commuter cranks
    engineered to take their pedals at different lengths?

    The cranks i have at the moment are quite beefy but have fluted
    surfaces ( i assume to reduce the weight) on both sides of the crank.
    Do you think getting second pedal threads put in my cranks at the 110mm
    or so mark would reduce the cranks strength in a way that would cause
    problems when I'm cranking up hills on the longer 152mm option?

    If the structural integrity of the cranks are in question, do you think
    that putting in a dummy pedal spindle in the 110mm pedal hole when
    riding the 152 option would help increase the strength? I'm thinking i
    could get something engineered that would be like a 15mm allen bolt
    that could be easily inserted and removed from the crank.

    Any advice you could give me on this matter ( or even your preferred
    crank lengths for different riding terrain) would be really
    appreciated! I'll attach some pics of my cranks for you to look at.

    Happy riding,
    mark

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  2. people have certinaly drilled prowheel cranks for an extra pedal hole,
    but I don't think it will be possible with the cranks you have
    currently because of the large dish taken out of them. If you search
    for previous threads on the subject you might find someone in Oz who
    has the appropriate tools, unfortunately pedal thread taps are quite
    expensive.

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  3. Well, I have double-drilled cranks (on a 26er, but I hope that doesn't
    make much difference), and yes, it's a lot easier than using a crank
    puller etc. Nonetheless, it still takes me long enough to change
    lengths that I don't bother for hills, only for on-road vs off-road
    sections - i.e. short for riding out to the trailhead, long for riding
    around the trail, then short for coming back. If I have to change crank
    length more times than that it starts to become annoying...

    The other surprise is how much better I've got at riding off-road, and
    doing tricks and idling etc., with the short cranks, since I started -
    so I don't use the long crank length as much as I used to at all. That
    may just mean I should shorten both - atm I've got 100/125 (on a 26),
    so maybe it's time for 90/115 or something :-) - but you do tend to get
    used to one length...

    However if your main use is for commuting...I'd suggest you might be
    just as well off with a single crank length somewhere in the middle,
    say 130mm or so...???

    HTH, Alan

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  4. Maybe some of the other listmates can add their source, but Mark Stonich
    of Bikesmith Designs in the States does this service. He can tell you
    what cranks are drillable and what are not.
    http://bikesmithdesign.com/

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  5. Have the area where you want to tap the new holes built up with weld.
    Then drill and tap your new holes. This should be easy enough with
    steel. I haven't experience with alum welding, but I think that should
    be do able as well, and lighter . Steel might be a good choice if you
    plan on moving the pedals a lot, the threads should last longer.

    Plugging the unused hole will not add any strength, so don't bother
    with that.

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  6. feel the light said:

    Have the area where you want to tap the new holes built up with weld.
    Then drill and tap your new holes. This should be easy enough with
    steel. I haven't experience with alum welding, but I think that should
    be do able as well, and lighter . Steel might be a good choice if you
    plan on moving the pedals a lot, the threads should last longer.

    Plugging the unused hole will not add any strength, so don't bother
    with that.

    W/ welding aluminum you'd need the cranks to be heat treated
    afterwards.

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  7. I don't think it's realistic to expect that you'll be moving your pedals
    from one crank hole to the other multiple times every day on your
    commute. Even leaving aside the factors of hassle and grease, pedal
    threads are not really set up to take that kind of use; at some point
    you'll cross-thread one and then you're hosed.

    I think your best bet is to get 125mm cranks, or at least 140mm, and
    just get used to climbing hills on them.

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  8. I went to an engineer that is a friend of my family today with my
    unicycle to ask his opinion on getting my cranks drilled. After a bit
    of a chat he was enthusiastic about giving it a go- we decided on
    getting a small cylindrical insert- threading the inside of it to take
    the pedal, then drill out a hole in the crank then weld it on both
    sides of the crank to hold it in place. I'm going to take the cranks
    there on monday (want to put in some km's this weekend) and will
    hopefully have it done by Wednesday. I just need to make my mind up on
    my second crank length. At the moment my mind is leaning at something
    between 100- 110mm. I hear people get used to the shorter crank lengths
    if you use them a lot so i'm thinking of going shorter rather than
    longer and just using the 150's when i get to a [censored] of a hill. What
    do you think?
    mark

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  9. napalm said:

    At the moment my mind is leaning at something between 100- 110mm. I hear
    people get used to the shorter crank lengths if you use them a lot so
    i'm thinking of going shorter rather than longer and just using the
    150's when i get to a [censored] of a hill. What do you think?
    mark

    I would stick with 110mm as a minimum. 110 is the shortest size that is
    sensible for most riding (except in very hilly areas). I've never felt
    safe in any kind of hill with shorter cranks. With 100 and 150, you'll
    want to use 150 any time you went near the tinyest hill so it'd be
    annoying.

    You might even find 125 is more sensible.

    This is probably obvious, but don't forget to make sure he knows that
    the left crank has to have a left hand thread.

    Joe

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  10. 125 is a nice go between crank size for any kind of riding. Most of the
    riders on MUT ran 125mm cranks for the whole thing.

    I'm really partial to 110s though, because they're fast AND you can
    crank up some pretty stupidly steep hills on them once you're used to
    it. I don't think I'd go for double drilled cranks on a pure road
    unicycle, mostly because I know I'd never really need above 110s to
    ride anything in my (fairly hilly) area.

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