OT - Personal Whine

On Sat, 1 Dec 2007 17:22:15 -0800 (PST), [email hidden]

Quoted message said:

That's about the only commendable thing I've been able to see about
Jill, from what she posts here. She may be a drunk, self-absorbed
blithering idiot, but at least she was smart enough not to have kids.

It wasn't "smarts" that encouraged Jill not have children.
They're just plain "icky" and a PITA according to her. She did
it out of selfishness.

-sw

On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 19:57:28 GMT, [email hidden] (Little
Malice) fired up random neurons and synapses to opine:

Quoted message said:

Foo, I got laid off today. Business (food production) is very slow
and this is the 3rd round of layoffs. Oh well, at least DH still has
*his* job there. And (ObFood?) he gets to make dinner tonight so I can
sit around feeling sorry for myself, so there...

I'm so sorry, Jani! What lousy timing, the b*stards!

I've only been fired once in my life - was not thrilled with the law
firm I had been working for, so my only regret was when I checked my
bank account balance. My mother tried to give me a pep talk when I was
grousing about having to do the resume/interview rounds. She said,
"You were looking for a job when you found that one." And the job I
eventually got was so *much* better that I almost felt like writing
the old law firm a thank you note.

I will hold good thoughts and send you best wishes.

Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd
--
"If the soup had been as hot as the claret, if the claret had been as
old as the bird, and if the bird's breasts had been as full as the
waitress's, it would have been a very good dinner."

-- Duncan Hines

To reply, replace "meatloaf" with "cox"

"Sqwertz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

On Sat, 1 Dec 2007 17:22:15 -0800 (PST), [email hidden]

Quoted message said:

That's about the only commendable thing I've been able to see about
Jill, from what she posts here. She may be a drunk, self-absorbed
blithering idiot, but at least she was smart enough not to have kids.

It wasn't "smarts" that encouraged Jill not have children.
They're just plain "icky" and a PITA according to her. She did
it out of selfishness.

Well, let's just let the end justify the means.

Dan Abel said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

jmcquown said:

Dave Bugg said:

Little Malice wrote:
> Foo, I got laid off today. Business (food production) is very slow
> and this is the 3rd round of layoffs. Oh well, at least DH still has
> *his* job there. And (ObFood?) he gets to make dinner tonight so I
> can sit around feeling sorry for myself, so there...

What a bummer. Hopefully your unemployment insurance will help a bit
until you can find something else. If I could, I'd give you a great,
big box of dark chocolates to help mellow yer mood :-)

It's too bad unemployment insurance only lasts about 6 weeks.

I think she lives in Seattle. I lived there a long time ago. I thought
it was more like 6 months. And then they just extended it. There were
people collecting for a couple of years. Still, it is a state benefit
so it varies by state in the US. Don't know about the rest of the world.

Quoted message said:

And it's a
pittance compared to what you earned.

Pays for the food and beer. Maybe even the rent.

Quoted message said:

But I couldn't get any help at all for medical and no help to pay my other
bills. Why? Because I don't have children or grandchildren. Shouldn't one
get credit for not popping out kid after kid after kid?

Here in California, there is no welfare for adults. It's for the kids.
They cost money. I've had them (still have three, but they are adults
with jobs).

People with little kids either stay home and take care of them, or if
they get a job, they have to pay childcare. Welfare isn't the free ride
that some people think it is.

Quoted message said:

If you've paid into the system I say certainly reap what you've sowed if you
need to. But don't continue to allow multi-generations to abuse it. (This
will be a very unpopular opinion.)

It doesn't sit well with me. These programs are safety nets. There are
people who need this through no fault of their own. There are also
people who abuse them. You and I can tell the difference, but darned if
I could come up with a foolproof rule that could be written down to tell
the difference.

that's the thing. any system like this will have abusers, but i think
that's preferable to letting people starve. it's not like people who
have money are always scrupulous about following the rules.

your pal,
blake

Dan Abel said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

blake murphy said:

On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 15:46:19 -0600, "jmcquown"
<[email hidden]> wrote:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

bills. Why? Because I don't have children or grandchildren. Shouldn't one

Quoted message said:

no one deserves government benefits but oneself? i would say that's a
very popular opinion.

but, by all means pat yourself on the back for not having children and
bucking popular opinion.

Some people aren't meant to have children. I feel very strongly that I
won't encourage these people to have children. Children are sometimes
very difficult. I should know, I've had three. It's not like there
aren't enough. Overpopulation is a problem in many countries.

i favor renting before you buy.

your pal,
blake

On Sun, 02 Dec 2007 03:02:53 GMT, Sqwertz <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

On Sat, 1 Dec 2007 17:22:15 -0800 (PST), [email hidden]

Quoted message said:

That's about the only commendable thing I've been able to see about
Jill, from what she posts here. She may be a drunk, self-absorbed
blithering idiot, but at least she was smart enough not to have kids.

It wasn't "smarts" that encouraged Jill not have children.
They're just plain "icky" and a PITA according to her. She did
it out of selfishness.

-sw

in some cases, selfishness is underrated.

your pal,
blake

"Wayne Boatwright" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

Quoted message said:

It doesn't bother me at all, as I enjoy my job and the people I
work with.

Very few people can say that. I too, enjoy my job, the people, and what I
do. I have no plans to retire as long as I can get there. Work is
something laborious; if you like what you do it is not work.

Terry Pulliam Burd said:

And the job I
eventually got was so *much* better that I almost felt like writing
the old law firm a thank you note.

Ain't that the truth? It goes to prove the old adage "When a door
closes, a window opens".

--
See return address to reply by email
remove the smiley face first

Oh pshaw, on Sun 02 Dec 2007 09:57:23a, Edwin Pawlowski meant to say...

Quoted message said:

"Wayne Boatwright" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

Quoted message said:

It doesn't bother me at all, as I enjoy my job and the people I
work with.

Very few people can say that. I too, enjoy my job, the people, and what

I

Quoted message said:

do. I have no plans to retire as long as I can get there. Work is
something laborious; if you like what you do it is not work.

My plans, too, Ed.

--
Wayne Boatwright

Date: Sunday, Dec(XII) 02(II),2007(MMVII)

*******************************************
Today is: First Sunday of Advent
Countdown 'til Christmas
3wks 14hrs
*******************************************
Aborton kills, but so does McDonalds.
*******************************************

"Edwin Pawlowski" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

"Wayne Boatwright" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

Quoted message said:

It doesn't bother me at all, as I enjoy my job and the people I
work with.

Very few people can say that. I too, enjoy my job, the people, and what I
do. I have no plans to retire as long as I can get there. Work is
something laborious; if you like what you do it is not work.

I would not go that far--for me it is still work--but I also love my job. I
have a wonderful boss. 🙂

In article <[email hidden]>,

blake murphy said:

Dan Abel said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

blake murphy said:

On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 15:46:19 -0600, "jmcquown"
<[email hidden]> wrote:

Quoted message said:

>bills. Why? Because I don't have children or grandchildren. Shouldn't
>one

Quoted message said:

no one deserves government benefits but oneself? i would say that's a
very popular opinion.

but, by all means pat yourself on the back for not having children and
bucking popular opinion.

Some people aren't meant to have children. I feel very strongly that I
won't encourage these people to have children. Children are sometimes
very difficult. I should know, I've had three. It's not like there
aren't enough. Overpopulation is a problem in many countries.

i favor renting before you buy.

I did that. I have three younger cousins.

--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA
[email hidden]

In article <[email hidden]>,

blake murphy said:

that's the thing. any system like this will have abusers, but i think
that's preferable to letting people starve. it's not like people who
have money are always scrupulous about following the rules.

That's not true. First they make the rules, and then they follow them.
Or else they finance the politicians to make the rules that they want.

--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA
[email hidden]

"Miche" <[email hidden]> wrote

Quoted message said:

In article <[email hidden]>, sf wrote:

Quoted message said:

Well in my case, it was talking to the users to find out how they were
using the system (sounds glib but more complicated than it sounds),
finding out what changes they wanted made to the software, what impact
it would have on the procedures, or whether we should change the
procedures instead. Then if it was agreed that the software should be
changed, it involved consulting with the technical types about how to
best make the changes, then write a spec to get the changes made. Once
the software changes were done, I'd test them and then get the users to
test them to make sure they were right, or give feedback for what still
needed to be done. Once it was all right and the users concerned had
agreed on that, we'd release it to production.

Hey, that was my job except I was the technical person, too.

nancy

Dan Abel <[email hidden]> scripsit in news:dabel-
[email hidden]:

Quoted message said:

Overpopulation is a problem in many countries.

If wealth and food were distributed properly according to need,
there would not be an "overpopulation" problem. But you already
knew that, didn't you.

cybercat snarls:

Quoted message said:

"Sqwertz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

On Sat, 1 Dec 2007 17:22:15 -0800 (PST), [email hidden]
wrote:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

That's about the only commendable thing I've been able to see about
Jill, from what she posts here. She may be a drunk, self-absorbed
blithering idiot, but at least she was smart enough not to have kids.

Quoted message said:

It wasn't "smarts" that encouraged Jill not have children.
They're just plain "icky" and a PITA according to her. She did
it out of selfishness.

Well, let's just let the end justify the means.

You been spayed, cyberpussy...???

--
Best
Greg

In article <[email hidden]>,

Nancy Young said:

"Miche" <[email hidden]> wrote

Quoted message said:

In article <[email hidden]>, sf wrote:

Quoted message said:

Well in my case, it was talking to the users to find out how they were
using the system (sounds glib but more complicated than it sounds),
finding out what changes they wanted made to the software, what impact
it would have on the procedures, or whether we should change the
procedures instead. Then if it was agreed that the software should be
changed, it involved consulting with the technical types about how to
best make the changes, then write a spec to get the changes made. Once
the software changes were done, I'd test them and then get the users to
test them to make sure they were right, or give feedback for what still
needed to be done. Once it was all right and the users concerned had
agreed on that, we'd release it to production.

Hey, that was my job except I was the technical person, too.

I also did front-line tech support.

Miche

--
Electricians do it in three phases

"cybercat" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

Quoted message said:

I would not go that far--for me it is still work--but I also love my job.
I have a wonderful boss. 🙂

I like a day with challenges. At the end of the day, if you've solved them
all, you have a feeling of satisfaction. Problems come from customers,
truckers, the weather, a machine that breaks, etc.

I will say that my situation is unique. I have no set hours, preferring 7
to 4 right now. I can come and go during the day if I want to run to the
store, get an oil change, or run to the bank. If I'm getting stiff from
sitting at my desk, I walk out in the shop to see what is going on. If I'm
tired from too much time in the shop, I just go back to my desk. Break time
is when I'm ready to take a break and for as long as I want. Lunch is
usually at noon with one of my co-workers. We've been eating together for
many years. I've been there eighteen years, she's been with us for 16
years. In all those years, the owners have never questioned us about what
we did during the day. We just do what needs to be done.
--
Ed
http://pages.cthome.net/edhome/

"Edwin Pawlowski" <[email hidden]> ha scritto nel messaggio
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

"Wayne Boatwright" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

Quoted message said:

It doesn't bother me at all, as I enjoy my job and the people I
work with.

Very few people can say that. I too, enjoy my job, the people, and what I
do. I have no plans to retire as long as I can get there. Work is
something laborious; if you like what you do it is not work.

That sounds very silly to me. I always do what I like for work. I think
I'd be poor at doing something I didn't like to do. There may be parts I
would prefer someone else do, but that's true of every part of life.
--
http://www.judithgreenwood.com

In article <[email hidden]>,

Giusi said:

"Edwin Pawlowski" <[email hidden]> ha scritto nel messaggio

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Very few people can say that. I too, enjoy my job, the people, and what I
do. I have no plans to retire as long as I can get there. Work is
something laborious; if you like what you do it is not work.

That sounds very silly to me. I always do what I like for work. I think
I'd be poor at doing something I didn't like to do. There may be parts I
would prefer someone else do, but that's true of every part of life.

I've changed diapers. A whole lot. For many years. That doesn't
define my life. Having children means changing diapers. That isn't why
you have them. Same thing with work. There are things that need to get
done. You do them. That isn't why you do the job.

--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA
[email hidden]

Dan Abel said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Giusi said:

"Edwin Pawlowski" <[email hidden]> ha scritto nel messaggio

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Very few people can say that. I too, enjoy my job, the people, and what I
do. I have no plans to retire as long as I can get there. Work is
something laborious; if you like what you do it is not work.

That sounds very silly to me. I always do what I like for work. I think
I'd be poor at doing something I didn't like to do. There may be parts I
would prefer someone else do, but that's true of every part of life.

I've changed diapers. A whole lot. For many years. That doesn't
define my life. Having children means changing diapers. That isn't why
you have them. Same thing with work. There are things that need to get
done. You do them. That isn't why you do the job.

Of course, if you actually *like* changing diapers, the world is your
oyster.

--
Bob