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  1. Edward Dolan said:

    All uprights are basically the same given a few degrees of difference here
    and there. A $75. Holiday Huffy is not all that different from a $2000.
    Cinelli road bike as far as the basic design goes.

    This is one odd point about upright bicycles--the biggest complaint that
    LBS's probably hear is riding discomfort, yet spending more for an
    upright bicycle doesn't get you anything more comfortable, it only gets
    you something that weighs less--which is not usually a major complaint.

    Bicycle companies have known this for a long time, they've pretty much
    given up on claiming that any of their upper-end bikes are comfortable.
    They emphasize low weights and "racing heritage".

    Quoted message said:

    Trikes are a special
    breed and can be designed as crazily as anyone desires. Deltas are more
    bike-like and tadpoles are more go-cart-like.

    I contend that tadpole trikes are inferior to deltas, for the simple
    reason that the steering mechanisms of tadpoles is more-susceptible to
    flexing and misalignment, and therefore more likely to suffer scrub
    losses. The only advantage a typical (low-set) tadpole can claim is that
    it can sustain higher cornering forces than a typical delta--but most of
    the time when one rides any kind of bicycle, one is riding in basically
    straight lines. It doesn't make any sense to choose a trike that
    sacrifices straight-line riding riding efficiency for extra cornering
    ability, when most of the time you're going to be riding in straight lines.

    Quoted message said:

    Surely there is an ideal recumbent that is best suited for the general
    population.

    I would opine that the standard LWB would be it. Most everyone who has
    tried test-riding my LWB could do it fairly quickly, but many of the
    same group of people could not ride the 20/26" SWB I owned previously.
    ......
    In that respect--we might view anything shorter than a standard LWB as a
    bike that is trying to maintain the LWB comfort, while trying to avoid
    all the LWB weight. The weight is not usually a problem however, if the
    local terrain is even moderately flat then comfort is typically a much
    larger issue.

    -------

    Overwhelmingly the impression I get from other cyclists is that they are
    more concerned with looking odd than they are with being physically
    uncomfortable.

    I doubt I'll live to see recumbents become mainstream. To recognize the
    advantages, one must ride a lot of miles on them often. The conditions
    necessary to force a lot of US drivers onto bicycles would be drastic,
    to put it mildly.
    ~

  2. DougC said:

    Edward Dolan wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Surely there is an ideal recumbent that is best suited for the general
    population.

    I would opine that the standard LWB would be it. Most everyone who has
    tried test-riding my LWB could do it fairly quickly, but many of the
    same group of people could not ride the 20/26" SWB I owned previously.

    What do LWB riders do about storage? Even regular uprights have been a
    bit of a pain to maneuver in and out of most of the apartments I've
    lived in, due to small landings or contrained spaces inside the door. I
    can't imagine that it would be any easier with a bike that's a couple of
    feet longer.

  3. Steve Gravrock said:
    DougC said:

    Edward Dolan wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Surely there is an ideal recumbent that is best suited for the general
    population.


    I would opine that the standard LWB would be it. Most everyone who has
    tried test-riding my LWB could do it fairly quickly, but many of the
    same group of people could not ride the 20/26" SWB I owned previously.

    What do LWB riders do about storage? Even regular uprights have been a
    bit of a pain to maneuver in and out of most of the apartments I've
    lived in, due to small landings or contrained spaces inside the door. I
    can't imagine that it would be any easier with a bike that's a couple of
    feet longer.

    Oh foo! I kept a LWB recumbent, a SWB recumbent an ATB and a BoB trailer
    in a 350 sq. ft. efficiency apartment. I had to negotiate four (4)
    flights of stairs with tight corners on the landings.

    Note that it is actually easier to manuveur a LWB in tight spaces, since
    the chainring out front on a SWB tends to scratch and mar things in its
    path.

    --
    Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
    "Localized intense suction such as tornadoes is created when temperature
    differences are high enough between meeting air masses, and can impart
    excessive energy onto a cyclist." - Randy Schlitter

  4. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Tom Sherman said:

    Steve Gravrock wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    What do LWB riders do about storage? Even regular uprights have been a
    bit of a pain to maneuver in and out of most of the apartments I've
    lived in, due to small landings or contrained spaces inside the door. I
    can't imagine that it would be any easier with a bike that's a couple of
    feet longer.

    Oh foo! I kept a LWB recumbent, a SWB recumbent an ATB and a BoB trailer
    in a 350 sq. ft. efficiency apartment. I had to negotiate four (4)
    flights of stairs with tight corners on the landings.

    That must've been quite a ride.

    cheers,
    Tom

    --
    Nothing is safe from me.
    I'm really at:
    tkeats curlicue vcn dot bc dot ca

  5. Tom Keats said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Tom Sherman said:

    Steve Gravrock wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    What do LWB riders do about storage? Even regular uprights have been a
    bit of a pain to maneuver in and out of most of the apartments I've
    lived in, due to small landings or contrained spaces inside the door. I
    can't imagine that it would be any easier with a bike that's a couple of
    feet longer.


    Oh foo! I kept a LWB recumbent, a SWB recumbent an ATB and a BoB trailer
    in a 350 sq. ft. efficiency apartment. I had to negotiate four (4)
    flights of stairs with tight corners on the landings.

    That must've been quite a ride.

    Yep, who says recumbents can't do stairs! 😉

    --
    Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
    "Localized intense suction such as tornadoes is created when temperature
    differences are high enough between meeting air masses, and can impart
    excessive energy onto a cyclist." - Randy Schlitter

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