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  1. spindrift wibbled

    Quoted message said:

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/crime/article3048613.ece

    A cycling charity has been accused of manipulating The People's £50
    Million Lottery Giveaway by encouraging its supporters to vote several
    times each for its entry.

    The Big Lottery Fund announced on Wednesday that Sustrans had won the
    money with 42 per cent of the 286,000 votes cast.

    The Times has learnt that a manager for Sustrans circulated an e-mail
    that encouraged people to vote as many times as possible.

    Well it was pretty obvious in URC that this was being encouraged ...
    and in every other cycling forum I lurk/post in.

    "If you're pro-Connect2 you'll want to vote from your home number, your
    mobile, your work number, your aunt's mobile etc. etc." ... From the
    thread 'Connect2 phone voting' started by Richard Fairhurst.

    Which didn't seem fair to me at all ... though to my shame I said
    nothing at the time.

    --
    Paul - [censored]

    '96/'97 Landrover Discovery 300 Tdi 'Big and Butch'
    '98 Suzuki DR 200 Djebel 'Small but perfectly formed'
    Dyna Tech Cro-Mo comp "When I feel fit enough'

  2. Paul - censored said:

    spindrift wibbled

    Quoted message said:

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/crime/article3048613.ece

    Quoted message said:

    A cycling charity has been accused of manipulating The People's £50
    Million Lottery Giveaway by encouraging its supporters to vote several
    times each for its entry.

    Quoted message said:

    The Big Lottery Fund announced on Wednesday that Sustrans had won the
    money with 42 per cent of the 286,000 votes cast.

    Quoted message said:

    The Times has learnt that a manager for Sustrans circulated an e-mail
    that encouraged people to vote as many times as possible.

    Well it was pretty obvious in URC that this was being encouraged ...
    and in every other cycling forum I lurk/post in.

    "If you're pro-Connect2 you'll want to vote from your home number, your
    mobile, your work number, your aunt's mobile etc. etc." ... From the
    thread 'Connect2 phone voting' started by Richard Fairhurst.

    Which didn't seem fair to me at all ... though to my shame I said
    nothing at the time.

    --
    Paul - [censored]

    '96/'97 Landrover Discovery 300 Tdi 'Big and Butch'
    '98 Suzuki DR 200 Djebel 'Small but perfectly formed'
    Dyna Tech Cro-Mo comp "When I feel fit enough'

    I guess it's a vote based on public sentiment, so the same loophole
    was available to all, including Bellamy, judging from his remark.

  3. Paul - censored said:

    "If you're pro-Connect2 you'll want to vote from your home number, your
    mobile, your work number, your aunt's mobile etc. etc." ... From the
    thread 'Connect2 phone voting' started by Richard Fairhurst.

    Which didn't seem fair to me at all ...

    Yeah, 'cause I'm /sure/ the supporters of the other causes didn't
    encourage their supporters to do the same thing. The very idea!

    --
    Danny Colyer <http://www.redpedals.co.uk>
    Reply address is valid, but that on my website is checked more often
    "The plural of anecdote is not data" - Frank Kotsonis

  4. Response to Danny Colyer

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Which didn't seem fair to me at all ...

    Yeah, 'cause I'm /sure/ the supporters of the other causes didn't
    encourage their supporters to do the same thing. The very idea!

    I am shocked! Shocked!

    http://www.nottinghamcity.gov.uk/vote_early_vote_often_vote_now.htm

    among others. Dr Bellamy - and one or two trolls on this ng - do sound
    a touch naive.

    --
    Mark, UK
    "All war must be just the killing of strangers against whom you feel no
    personal animosity; strangers whom, in other circumstances, you would
    help if you found them in trouble, and who would help you if you needed
    it."

  5. Paul - censored said:

    Well it was pretty obvious in URC that this was being encouraged ...
    and in every other cycling forum I lurk/post in.

    Fact is the system for voting was borken, so given everyone will be
    playing the same game it'd be silly /not/ to.

    However, having a non-borken system would be preferable.

    Pete.
    --
    Peter Clinch Medical Physics IT Officer
    Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital
    Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK
    net [email hidden] http://www.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch/

  6. Peter Clinch said:
    Paul - censored said:

    Well it was pretty obvious in URC that this was being encouraged ...
    and in every other cycling forum I lurk/post in.

    Fact is the system for voting was borken, so given everyone will be
    playing the same game it'd be silly /not/ to.

    However, having a non-borken system would be preferable.

    Pete.
    --
    Peter Clinch Medical Physics IT Officer
    Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital
    Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK
    net [email hidden] http://www.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch/

    The other schemes were local too, Sustrans plan was for a nationwide
    network.

  7. spindrift said:
    Peter Clinch said:
    Paul - censored said:

    Well it was pretty obvious in URC that this was being encouraged ...
    and in every other cycling forum I lurk/post in.


    Fact is the system for voting was borken, so given everyone will be
    playing the same game it'd be silly /not/ to.

    However, having a non-borken system would be preferable.

    The other schemes were local too, Sustrans plan was for a nationwide
    network.

    No, it was for 79 local schemes, so you can't use that excuse to ease
    the conscience of any multi-voter.

    --
    Matt B

  8. Paul - censored said:

    spindrift wibbled

    Quoted message said:

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/crime/article3048613.ece

    A cycling charity has been accused of manipulating The People's £50
    Million Lottery Giveaway by encouraging its supporters to vote several
    times each for its entry.

    The Big Lottery Fund announced on Wednesday that Sustrans had won the
    money with 42 per cent of the 286,000 votes cast.

    The Times has learnt that a manager for Sustrans circulated an e-mail
    that encouraged people to vote as many times as possible.

    Well it was pretty obvious in URC that this was being encouraged ...
    and in every other cycling forum I lurk/post in.

    It strikes me that they found the best way to limit people's votes. Most
    people will have access to a limited number of IP addresses and a
    limited number of phone lines.

    I think I have access to 2 IP addresses, one of which is shared by the
    whole of my school so I would be lucky to manage much with that. I have
    access to 3 phone lines, similarly sharing one with the whole of my
    school.

    It is sour grapes. Pure and simple.

    Cheers,
    Luke

    --
    Red Rose Ramblings, the diary of an Essex boy in
    exile in Lancashire <http://www.shrimper.org.uk>

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