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  1. It's 1952, a board track, and I want to know all about this kind of
    tire taping:

    http://www.wooljersey.com/gallery/v/aldoross/pd/1952_Chicago_9_Nite_Derby_Ernst_Campbell.jpg.html

    Upper right picture, same tape on front tire of 1934 rider second from
    right:

    http://www.wooljersey.com/gallery/v/aldoross/pd/buffalo.bmp.html?g2_imageViewsIndex=1

    Is this tire-taping like tying-and-soldering, a once-popular but now
    largely forgotten scheme?

    Cheers,

    Carl Fogel

  2. On Sun, 23 Dec 2007 23:08:21 -0700, [email hidden] may have

    Quoted message said:

    It's 1952, a board track, and I want to know all about this kind of
    tire taping:

    http://www.wooljersey.com/gallery/v/aldoross/pd/1952_Chicago_9_Nite_Derby_Ernst_Campbell.jpg.html

    Look like the taped tire is tubular. ISTR being told that some riders
    did that with tubulars; it may have been done to keep them in place
    while the glue set, but I don't recall for sure now. It was back in
    the '60s when the conversation took place.

    I do recall that it was common to use tape over the outside of early
    tubulars (as in, pre-WWI through depression-era) as part of an
    emergency puncture repair, and that tape was often simply left in
    place until it wore off.

    Quoted message said:

    Upper right picture, same tape on front tire of 1934 rider second from
    right:

    http://www.wooljersey.com/gallery/v/aldoross/pd/buffalo.bmp.html?g2_imageViewsIndex=1

    Is this tire-taping like tying-and-soldering, a once-popular but now
    largely forgotten scheme?

    Maybe some even older fart will know for sure.

    --
    My email address is antispammed; pull WEEDS if replying via e-mail.
    Typoes are not a bug, they're a feature.
    Words processed in a facility that contains nuts.

  3. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Quoted message said:

    It's 1952, a board track, and I want to know all about this kind of
    tire taping:

    http://www.wooljersey.com/gallery/v/aldoross/pd/1952_Chicago_9_Nite_Derby_Erns
    t_Campbell.jpg.html

    Upper right picture, same tape on front tire of 1934 rider second from
    right:

    http://www.wooljersey.com/gallery/v/aldoross/pd/buffalo.bmp.html?g2_imageViews
    Index=1

    Is this tire-taping like tying-and-soldering, a once-popular but now
    largely forgotten scheme?

    Nice Find! The Burnaby Six-Day starts on Dec. 31st. I'll find the
    oldest-looking geezer in the crowd and ask him for you.

    http://www.burnabysixday.com/mainpage.html

    -RjC.

    --
    Ryan Cousineau [email hidden] http://www.wiredcola.com/
    "My scenarios may give the impression I could be an excellent crook.
    Not true - I am a talented lawyer." - Sandy in rec.bicycles.racing

  4. Werehatrack said:
    Quoted message said:

    http://www.wooljersey.com/gallery/v/aldoross/pd/1952_Chicago_9_Nite_Derby_Ernst_Campbell.jpg.html

    More importantly why is he goosing the rider next to him ?

  5. still just me said:
    Werehatrack said:
    Quoted message said:

    http://www.wooljersey.com/gallery/v/aldoross/pd/1952_Chicago_9_Nite_Derby_Ernst_Campbell.jpg.html

    More importantly why is he goosing the rider next to him ?

    Dear S,

    Six-day racers pushed each other forward like that so often that it's
    on their posters:
    http://www.6dayracing.ca/memorabilia/posters/kil-vopel.jpg

    http://www.6dayracing.ca/memorabilia/posters/1934%20vancouver%20poster.html

    It even shows up in cartoons. It's just turning over the lead:
    http://www.6dayracing.ca/memorabilia/camels/slides/yates3.html

    Not that there's anything wrong with that.

    The whole cartoon led up to how six-day star Yates smoked Camel
    cigarettes:
    http://www.6dayracing.ca/memorabilia/camels/index.html

    Six-day racing soon turned into all-star wrestling on wheels:
    http://www.6dayracing.ca/6-day_concept.html

    The six-day format, of course, avoided bicycling on Sunday.

    Cheers,

    Carl Fogel

  6. Quoted message said:
    still just me said:
    Werehatrack said:

    >http://www.wooljersey.com/gallery/v/aldoross/pd/1952_Chicago_9_Nite_Derby_Ernst_Campbell.jpg.html

    More importantly why is he goosing the rider next to him ?

    Dear S,

    Six-day racers pushed each other forward like that so often that it's
    on their posters:
    http://www.6dayracing.ca/memorabilia/posters/kil-vopel.jpg

    http://www.6dayracing.ca/memorabilia/posters/1934%20vancouver%20poster.html

    It even shows up in cartoons. It's just turning over the lead:
    http://www.6dayracing.ca/memorabilia/camels/slides/yates3.html

    Not that there's anything wrong with that.

    The whole cartoon led up to how six-day star Yates smoked Camel
    cigarettes:
    http://www.6dayracing.ca/memorabilia/camels/index.html

    Six-day racing soon turned into all-star wrestling on wheels:
    http://www.6dayracing.ca/6-day_concept.html

    The six-day format, of course, avoided bicycling on Sunday.

    Cheers,

    Carl Fogel

    Ryan's link also describes the hand-sling:

    "Admittedly, watching exhausted cyclists circle a track for six days
    did not always make for exciting racing, so the formula was refined.
    Nowadays, the riders race on an indoor track (or velodrome) over six
    successive evenings. The cyclists still race in teams of two, and only
    one rider needs to be in the race at any one time. Generally, the
    rider not actually racing will circle slowly at the top of the track,
    waiting for his partner to (literally) throw him into the race by a
    hand sling."
    http://www.burnabysixday.com/what_is_sixday.html

    Here two teams sling at once, hand-to-hand, a more effective and
    discreet manner:

    http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/?id=2002/nov02/munich02/AW/All_hold_hands

    Cheers,

    Carl Fogel

  7. Carl Fogel writes:

    http://www.wooljersey.com/gallery/v/aldoross/pd/1952_Chicago_9_Nite_Derby_Ernst_Campbell.jpg.html

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    More importantly why is he goosing the rider next to him ?

    Quoted message said:

    Six-day racers pushed each other forward like that so often that
    it's on their posters:

    http://www.6dayracing.ca/memorabilia/posters/kil-vopel.jpg

    Team racing has a similar rule to relay racing, you must pass the
    baton and in team racing you must hand-off to your teammate when you
    catch up to him rinding at half speed. The handoff as in this
    picture, where other teams are not clustered allows passing the
    kinetic energy from one rider to the other by slinging the partner
    forward.

    Track shorts, for that reason, have an inside pocket on the left hip
    for a "mouse" with a white stripe sewn on the outside do it's
    location is easily seen. The mouse is a padded stuffing about the
    size of a large household mouse, and hence the name.

    When traffic on the track is dense and the idle teammates come down
    from the top of the banking to get their handoff, this is done with a
    hand-to-hand sling or even just a hand slap if another team rider in
    between.

    http://www.6dayracing.ca/memorabilia/posters/1934%20vancouver%20poster.html

    Quoted message said:

    It even shows up in cartoons. It's just turning over the lead:

    http://www.6dayracing.ca/memorabilia/camels/slides/yates3.html

    Quoted message said:

    Not that there's anything wrong with that.

    Quoted message said:

    The whole cartoon led up to how six-day star Yates smoked Camel
    cigarettes:

    http://www.6dayracing.ca/memorabilia/camels/index.html

    Quoted message said:

    Six-day racing soon turned into all-star wrestling on wheels:

    http://www.6dayracing.ca/6-day_concept.html

    Quoted message said:

    The six-day format, of course, avoided bicycling on Sunday.

    I attended a few six day races in Europe, where they are still popular
    winter activities, on Sundays. You must referring to the American
    fundamentalist ethic. That it turned into a "wrestling match" seems
    to have been another perversion in this country. In Europe it is
    still a good off-season race for the big names in road racing.

    Jobst Brandt

  8. Quoted message said:

    It's 1952, a board track, and I want to know all about this kind of
    tire taping:

    http://www.wooljersey.com/gallery/v/aldoross/pd/1952_Chicago_9_Nite_Derby_Ernst_Campbell.jpg.html

    Upper right picture, same tape on front tire of 1934 rider second from
    right:

    http://www.wooljersey.com/gallery/v/aldoross/pd/buffalo.bmp.html?g2_imageViewsIndex=1

    Is this tire-taping like tying-and-soldering, a once-popular but now
    largely forgotten scheme?

    Cheers,

    Carl Fogel

    In this six-day picture, the left and right wheels of the lower trio
    have a single piece of tape wrapped around the rim and tire:

    http://www.wooljersey.com/gallery/v/aldoross/pd/Chicago_6_day_early_30s.jpg.html?g2_imageViewsIndex=1

    Cheers,

    Carl Fogel

  9. Quoted message said:

    Carl Fogel writes:

    http://www.wooljersey.com/gallery/v/aldoross/pd/1952_Chicago_9_Nite_Derby_Ernst_Campbell.jpg.html

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    More importantly why is he goosing the rider next to him ?

    Quoted message said:

    Six-day racers pushed each other forward like that so often that
    it's on their posters:

    http://www.6dayracing.ca/memorabilia/posters/kil-vopel.jpg

    Team racing has a similar rule to relay racing, you must pass the
    baton and in team racing you must hand-off to your teammate when you
    catch up to him rinding at half speed. The handoff as in this
    picture, where other teams are not clustered allows passing the
    kinetic energy from one rider to the other by slinging the partner
    forward.

    Track shorts, for that reason, have an inside pocket on the left hip
    for a "mouse" with a white stripe sewn on the outside do it's
    location is easily seen. The mouse is a padded stuffing about the
    size of a large household mouse, and hence the name.

    When traffic on the track is dense and the idle teammates come down
    from the top of the banking to get their handoff, this is done with a
    hand-to-hand sling or even just a hand slap if another team rider in
    between.

    http://www.6dayracing.ca/memorabilia/posters/1934%20vancouver%20poster.html

    Quoted message said:

    It even shows up in cartoons. It's just turning over the lead:

    http://www.6dayracing.ca/memorabilia/camels/slides/yates3.html

    Quoted message said:

    Not that there's anything wrong with that.

    Quoted message said:

    The whole cartoon led up to how six-day star Yates smoked Camel
    cigarettes:

    http://www.6dayracing.ca/memorabilia/camels/index.html

    Quoted message said:

    Six-day racing soon turned into all-star wrestling on wheels:

    http://www.6dayracing.ca/6-day_concept.html

    Quoted message said:

    The six-day format, of course, avoided bicycling on Sunday.

    I attended a few six day races in Europe, where they are still popular
    winter activities, on Sundays. You must referring to the American
    fundamentalist ethic. That it turned into a "wrestling match" seems
    to have been another perversion in this country. In Europe it is
    still a good off-season race for the big names in road racing.

    Jobst Brandt

    Dear Jobst,

    A nice summary of six-day history:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six-day_racing

    Cheers,

    Carl Fogel

  10. Quoted message said:
    Werehatrack said:
    Quoted message said:

    http://www.wooljersey.com/gallery/v/aldoross/pd/1952_Chicago_9_Nite_Derby_Ernst_Campbell.jpg.html

    still just me said:

    More importantly why is he goosing the rider next to him ?

    Madison shorts have a pocket at the hip for a stick. Teammate grabs that
    to throw the rider forward.
    --
    Andrew Muzi
    www.yellowjersey.org
    Open every day since 1 April, 1971

  11. Quoted message said:

    It's 1952, a board track, and I want to know all about this kind of
    tire taping:

    http://www.wooljersey.com/gallery/v/aldoross/pd/1952_Chicago_9_Nite_Derby_Ernst_Campbell.jpg.html

    Upper right picture, same tape on front tire of 1934 rider second from
    right:

    http://www.wooljersey.com/gallery/v/aldoross/pd/buffalo.bmp.html?g2_imageViewsIndex=1

    Is this tire-taping like tying-and-soldering, a once-popular but now
    largely forgotten scheme?

    Cheers,

    Carl Fogel

    The wiki article links to this interesting article on US bicycling:
    http://hauns.com/~DCQu4E5g/TDF/uscycling.html

    The article should be taken with a grain of salt, given that the
    author is simply wrong about Ruth's salary being $17k in the 1930s.

    Ruth was never paid $17k for any year in his baseball career, and made
    far more than $17k in the 1930s. Possibly the author confused Ruth's
    salary with a World Series bonus payment to a team or player.

    In 1920 Ruth wisely left ungrateful Boston and doubled his salary to
    $20k with the Yankees. From 1927 to 1932 (his last championship
    season), he made $70k to $80k:
    http://www.baseball-almanac.com/tsn/babe_ruth_salary.shtml

    Ruth's salary did drop, year by year, from 1932 to 1935, but salaries
    dropped during the Depression for most people, not just for fading
    baseball stars.

    All of Ruth's salaries are listed near the bottom of this page:
    http://www.baseball-almanac.com/players/player.php?p=ruthba01

    But it's still an interesting bit of bicycle history, even if it's
    confused about baseball money.

    Cheers,

    Carl Fogel

  12. Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    It's 1952, a board track, and I want to know all about this kind of
    tire taping:

    http://www.wooljersey.com/gallery/v/aldoross/pd/1952_Chicago_9_Nite_Derby_Ernst_Campbell.jpg.html

    Upper right picture, same tape on front tire of 1934 rider second from
    right:

    http://www.wooljersey.com/gallery/v/aldoross/pd/buffalo.bmp.html?g2_imageViewsIndex=1

    Is this tire-taping like tying-and-soldering, a once-popular but now
    largely forgotten scheme?

    Cheers,

    Carl Fogel

    The wiki article links to this interesting article on US bicycling:
    http://hauns.com/~DCQu4E5g/TDF/uscycling.html

    The article should be taken with a grain of salt, given that the
    author is simply wrong about Ruth's salary being $17k in the 1930s.

    Ruth was never paid $17k for any year in his baseball career, and made
    far more than $17k in the 1930s. Possibly the author confused Ruth's
    salary with a World Series bonus payment to a team or player.

    In 1920 Ruth wisely left ungrateful Boston and doubled his salary to
    $20k with the Yankees. From 1927 to 1932 (his last championship
    season), he made $70k to $80k:
    http://www.baseball-almanac.com/tsn/babe_ruth_salary.shtml

    Ruth's salary did drop, year by year, from 1932 to 1935, but salaries
    dropped during the Depression for most people, not just for fading
    baseball stars.

    All of Ruth's salaries are listed near the bottom of this page:
    http://www.baseball-almanac.com/players/player.php?p=ruthba01

    But it's still an interesting bit of bicycle history, even if it's
    confused about baseball money.

    Cheers,

    Carl Fogel

    Oops! This was supposed to be added to a reply to Jobst elsewhere in
    this thread, where the wiki article was mentioned:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six-day_racing

    CF

  13. Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Werehatrack said:

    > http://www.wooljersey.com/gallery/v/aldoross/pd/1952_Chicago_9_Nite_Derby_Ernst_Campbell.jpg.html

    Quoted message said:
    still just me said:

    More importantly why is he goosing the rider next to him ?

    Quoted message said:

    Six-day racers pushed each other forward like that so often that it's
    on their posters:
    http://www.6dayracing.ca/memorabilia/posters/kil-vopel.jpg
    http://www.6dayracing.ca/memorabilia/posters/1934%20vancouver%20poster.html
    It even shows up in cartoons. It's just turning over the lead:
    http://www.6dayracing.ca/memorabilia/camels/slides/yates3.html
    Not that there's anything wrong with that.
    The whole cartoon led up to how six-day star Yates smoked Camel
    cigarettes:
    http://www.6dayracing.ca/memorabilia/camels/index.html
    Six-day racing soon turned into all-star wrestling on wheels:
    http://www.6dayracing.ca/6-day_concept.html
    The six-day format, of course, avoided bicycling on Sunday.

    The Camel ads claim, "World's fastest man enjoys a slow smoke"

    --
    Andrew Muzi
    www.yellowjersey.org
    Open every day since 1 April, 1971

  14. On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 14:47:18 -0600, A Muzi <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Werehatrack <[email hidden]> wrote:
    >> http://www.wooljersey.com/gallery/v/aldoross/pd/1952_Chicago_9_Nite_Derby_Ernst_Campbell.jpg.html

    Quoted message said:
    still just me said:

    More importantly why is he goosing the rider next to him ?

    Quoted message said:

    Six-day racers pushed each other forward like that so often that it's
    on their posters:
    http://www.6dayracing.ca/memorabilia/posters/kil-vopel.jpg
    http://www.6dayracing.ca/memorabilia/posters/1934%20vancouver%20poster.html
    It even shows up in cartoons. It's just turning over the lead:
    http://www.6dayracing.ca/memorabilia/camels/slides/yates3.html
    Not that there's anything wrong with that.
    The whole cartoon led up to how six-day star Yates smoked Camel
    cigarettes:
    http://www.6dayracing.ca/memorabilia/camels/index.html
    Six-day racing soon turned into all-star wrestling on wheels:
    http://www.6dayracing.ca/6-day_concept.html
    The six-day format, of course, avoided bicycling on Sunday.

    The Camel ads claim, "World's fastest man enjoys a slow smoke"

    Dear Andrew,

    Real men know that smoking during the race guarantees victory:

    http://www.wooljersey.com/gallery/v/aldoross/pd/Mac_Namara.jpg.html

    Note the racing handlebars. Possibly an ash-tray is attached.

    Cheers,

    Carl Fogel

  15. <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    On Sun, 23 Dec 2007 23:08:21 -0700, [email hidden] wrote:


    <snip>

    Quoted message said:

    In this six-day picture, the left and right wheels of the lower trio
    have a single piece of tape wrapped around the rim and tire:


    http://www.wooljersey.com/gallery/v/aldoross/pd/Chicago_6_day_early_30s.jpg.html?g2_imageViewsIndex=1

    Quoted message said:


    Cheers,

    Carl Fogel

    Here's an interesting shot just before an "oh s**t" moment. Both bikes
    have tape on at least 1 tire.

    http://www.classicrendezvous.com/Bike_Shops/TedErnsts/photos/photo9.html

    Chas.

  16. Werehatrack said:

    On Sun, 23 Dec 2007 23:08:21 -0700, [email hidden] may have

    Quoted message said:

    It's 1952, a board track, and I want to know all about this kind of
    tire taping:

    Quoted message said:

    http://www.wooljersey.com/gallery/v/aldoross/pd/1952_Chicago_9_Nite_D...

    Look like the taped tire is tubular.  ISTR being told that some riders
    did that with tubulars; it may have been done to keep them in place
    while the glue set, but I don't recall for sure now.  It was back in
    the '60s when the conversation took place.

    I do recall that it was common to use tape over the outside of early
    tubulars (as in, pre-WWI through depression-era) as part of an
    emergency puncture repair, and that tape was often simply left in
    place until it wore off.

    Quoted message said:

    Upper right picture, same tape on front tire of 1934 rider second from
    right:

    Quoted message said:

    http://www.wooljersey.com/gallery/v/aldoross/pd/buffalo.bmp.html?g2_i...

    Quoted message said:

    Is this tire-taping like tying-and-soldering, a once-popular but now
    largely forgotten scheme?

    Maybe some even older fart will know for sure.

    --
    My email address is antispammed; pull WEEDS if replying via e-mail.
    Typoes are not a bug, they're a feature.
    Words processed in a facility that contains nuts.

    First thing the tape conjured in my head was increased traction.
    Perhaps the tape had a grit on it? I don't know if the Chicago
    velodrome was indoors, outdoors, or travelling -- maybe it had a
    tendency to develop some moisture?

    /s

  17. * * Chas said:


    <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    On Sun, 23 Dec 2007 23:08:21 -0700, [email hidden] wrote:


    <snip>

    Quoted message said:

    In this six-day picture, the left and right wheels of the lower trio
    have a single piece of tape wrapped around the rim and tire:


    http://www.wooljersey.com/gallery/v/aldoross/pd/Chicago_6_day_early_30s.jpg.html?g2_imageViewsIndex=1

    Quoted message said:


    Cheers,

    Carl Fogel

    Here's an interesting shot just before an "oh s**t" moment. Both bikes
    have tape on at least 1 tire.

    http://www.classicrendezvous.com/Bike_Shops/TedErnsts/photos/photo9.html

    Chas.

    Dear Chas,

    On the right, the front tire has one wide tape strip wound around the
    rim for sure and maybe a thinner strip next to it. That suggests that
    the tape is repairing something irregular, unlike the apparently
    regularly spaced tapes in other photos that might be holding the tire
    to the rim.

    The rear wheel on the left shows four tape strips fairly clearly (what
    looks like a fifth is probably just the seatstay bridge). They're not
    exactly regular, so maybe that's a really damaged tire?

    I'm still puzzled by the idea that professional board-track racers
    were holding their bikes together by winding duct-tape around the rim
    and tire.

    Maybe they were booting the insides of tires damaged in crashes
    (darned few goatheads on board tracks) and then taping over the
    outside?

    Maybe the tires of that era tended to split spontaneously?

    Cheers,

    Carl Fogel

  18. Quoted message said:
    * * Chas said:

    <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    On Sun, 23 Dec 2007 23:08:21 -0700, [email hidden] wrote:


    <snip>

    Quoted message said:

    In this six-day picture, the left and right wheels of the lower trio
    have a single piece of tape wrapped around the rim and tire:


    http://www.wooljersey.com/gallery/v/aldoross/pd/Chicago_6_day_early_30s.jpg.html?g2_imageViewsIndex=1

    Quoted message said:

    Cheers,

    Carl Fogel


    Here's an interesting shot just before an "oh s**t" moment. Both bikes
    have tape on at least 1 tire.

    http://www.classicrendezvous.com/Bike_Shops/TedErnsts/photos/photo9.html

    Chas.

    Dear Chas,

    On the right, the front tire has one wide tape strip wound around the
    rim for sure and maybe a thinner strip next to it. That suggests that
    the tape is repairing something irregular, unlike the apparently
    regularly spaced tapes in other photos that might be holding the tire
    to the rim.

    The rear wheel on the left shows four tape strips fairly clearly (what
    looks like a fifth is probably just the seatstay bridge). They're not
    exactly regular, so maybe that's a really damaged tire?

    I'm still puzzled by the idea that professional board-track racers
    were holding their bikes together by winding duct-tape around the rim
    and tire.

    Maybe they were booting the insides of tires damaged in crashes
    (darned few goatheads on board tracks) and then taping over the
    outside?

    Maybe the tires of that era tended to split spontaneously?

    Cheers,

    Carl Fogel

    I think it just makes it easier for the mechanic to pick the right set
    of wheels from a whole bunch suspended on a rack. Inside the track
    (where the mechanics are working and Vips are boozing) the light can be
    pretty dim

    --
    /Marten

    info(apestaartje)m-gineering(punt)nl

  19. Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    <[email hidden]> wrote in message

    Quoted message said:

    In this six-day picture, the left and right wheels of the lower trio
    have a single piece of tape wrapped around the rim and tire:


    http://www.wooljersey.com/gallery/v/aldoross/pd/Chicago_6_day_early_30s.jpg.html?g2_imageViewsIndex=1

    Quoted message said:
    * * Chas said:

    Here's an interesting shot just before an "oh s**t" moment. Both bikes
    have tape on at least 1 tire.
    http://www.classicrendezvous.com/Bike_Shops/TedErnsts/photos/photo9.html

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    On the right, the front tire has one wide tape strip wound around the
    rim for sure and maybe a thinner strip next to it. That suggests that
    the tape is repairing something irregular, unlike the apparently
    regularly spaced tapes in other photos that might be holding the tire
    to the rim.

    The rear wheel on the left shows four tape strips fairly clearly (what
    looks like a fifth is probably just the seatstay bridge). They're not
    exactly regular, so maybe that's a really damaged tire?

    I'm still puzzled by the idea that professional board-track racers
    were holding their bikes together by winding duct-tape around the rim
    and tire.

    Maybe they were booting the insides of tires damaged in crashes
    (darned few goatheads on board tracks) and then taping over the
    outside?

    Maybe the tires of that era tended to split spontaneously?

    Jerry Pearce (Virgil Pearce's son) says he hadn't seen that either but
    suspects that it's an ad hoc attempt to prevent a tire roll, perhaps
    where tires have been changed just before the event without time to
    properly apply shellac in layers. He says Virgil's racing photos don't
    show such.
    --
    Andrew Muzi
    www.yellowjersey.org
    Open every day since 1 April, 1971

  20. On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 14:31:34 -0600, A Muzi <[email hidden]>

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    <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    > In this six-day picture, the left and right wheels of the lower trio
    > have a single piece of tape wrapped around the rim and tire:
    http://www.wooljersey.com/gallery/v/aldoross/pd/Chicago_6_day_early_30s.jpg.html?g2_imageViewsIndex=1

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    * * Chas said:

    Here's an interesting shot just before an "oh s**t" moment. Both bikes
    have tape on at least 1 tire.
    http://www.classicrendezvous.com/Bike_Shops/TedErnsts/photos/photo9.html

    Quoted message said:

    On the right, the front tire has one wide tape strip wound around the
    rim for sure and maybe a thinner strip next to it. That suggests that
    the tape is repairing something irregular, unlike the apparently
    regularly spaced tapes in other photos that might be holding the tire
    to the rim.

    The rear wheel on the left shows four tape strips fairly clearly (what
    looks like a fifth is probably just the seatstay bridge). They're not
    exactly regular, so maybe that's a really damaged tire?

    I'm still puzzled by the idea that professional board-track racers
    were holding their bikes together by winding duct-tape around the rim
    and tire.

    Maybe they were booting the insides of tires damaged in crashes
    (darned few goatheads on board tracks) and then taping over the
    outside?

    Maybe the tires of that era tended to split spontaneously?

    Jerry Pearce (Virgil Pearce's son) says he hadn't seen that either but
    suspects that it's an ad hoc attempt to prevent a tire roll, perhaps
    where tires have been changed just before the event without time to
    properly apply shellac in layers. He says Virgil's racing photos don't
    show such.

    Dear Andrew,

    Could be, for all I know--I'm still baffled.

    Some of the tires seem to have lots of tape in what might be regular
    patterns, as if to hold them on, though others have oddball single
    tape.

    But you'd think that they'd just use normal road glue if they had to
    change the track tires and get going, not tape and shellac.

    Or maybe you can't mix road glue and shellac? If so, you'd still think
    that they'd just use road glue. Six day racing doesn't seem to be the
    kind of racing where the tiny advantage of hard shellac versus soft
    glue would matter much--they spent a lot of time just goofing off or
    wobbling around in dangerously sleep-deprived hallucinations.

    Thanks for taking the trouble to ask someone who had a
    connection--they're scarce in my neck of the woods.

    Cheers,

    Carl Fogel

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