If you don't believe in Evolution, then why do you drive an SUV?

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You belong on that donkey that Jesus rode.

it just amazes me the insight that you have!! your religious knowlege is
totally amazing!! you are making a major impact on our society!! you have
insight that takes my breath away

peter

T. Ling Yu said:

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Bike is too slow and too silence and unable to kill human being.

Why would you want to kill human being with your bike, RC.
That's horrible!

When you are in an SUV you have POWER, power to kill power not to
kill. But you don't get all hung up about it. You treat power
casually, and keep chatting on your cell. It must look natural. You
barely notice those poor monkeys trying to survive in their little
bikes. Any death resulting from this must appear accidental.

ilaboo said:

suv here in new york city are now a dead issue

what we now see are 1/2 ton 4 wheel drive pickups with double wheels in back
and passenger cabs
it really is depressing
i can now understand the phd physicist burning suv dealerships

i suspect after Katrina groups of people jsut killed the persons who totally
disrupted the ability to suvive--drink all teh water/ eat all the food freak
out becasue of no alcohol

What do they need SUVs in NYC for, to tame the Asphalt Jungle?

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Bike is too slow and too silence and unable to kill human being.

Why would you want to kill human being with your bike, RC.
That's horrible!

When you are in an SUV you have POWER, power to kill power not to
kill. But you don't get all hung up about it. You treat power
casually, and keep chatting on your cell. It must look natural. You
barely notice those poor monkeys trying to survive in their little
bikes. Any death resulting from this must appear accidental.

But why cell phone keep get smaller? Stupid American must need
to want desire fat-ass cellphone with more power, no?

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> Bike is too slow and too silence and unable to kill human being.

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Why would you want to kill human being with your bike, RC.
That's horrible!

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When you are in an SUV you have POWER, power to kill power not to
kill. But you don't get all hung up about it. You treat power
casually, and keep chatting on your cell. It must look natural. You
barely notice those poor monkeys trying to survive in their little
bikes. Any death resulting from this must appear accidental.

But why cell phone keep get smaller? Stupid American must need
to want desire fat-ass cellphone with more power, no?-

Well, that's coming soon...

http://www.txroadrunners.com/images/pics/funny5/BigNokiaCellPhone.jpg

You can take it right on the bed of this SUV...

http://www.marketingshift.com/2004/9/biggest-suv-navistar-international.cfm

Pat said:

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No, SUVs (or whatever vehicle you drive) don't run on water. They run
on oil,

Some of them run on corn (ethanol) now.

No, at most there is only 15% ethanol mixed in with the gasoline.

wrong e85 is 85% ethanol

This T-shirt is not for oil junkies...

http://www.zazzle.com/bike_for_peace_shirt-235671708848009326

donquijote1954 said:

Stephen Harding said:

George Conklin said:

If you are concerned with your health, you won't be riding a bicycle. Too
many accidents per mile.

Like how many?

Cite please.

It's just a fear the system plants on you. It doesn't have to be real
though. Just enough so people give up bicycles and buy SUVs.

That's a fair point.

However I've come to believe people eschew bicycle commuting
not so much because it's seen as a death wish, but more that
such a view makes a convenient excuse.

Let's face it, hopping in the dino-juice buggy can be awfully
convenient!

SMH

I thought petroleum, and most hydrocarbons, was formerly primarily
plant matter that had been trapped in sediment and covered by oceans,
algae & stuff being the liquid petroleum and trees & stuff ending up
as coal... but this discounts the whole abiogenic petroleum theory.

I guess I'm not really sure where petroleum comes from, I suspect that
it had to be deposited in the sediment way long before there were such
things as dinosaurs (obviously the folks at Sinclair Oil co
disagree). I just could live with myself if I believed that I was
burning Fred's cute little Dino every time I lit the furnace.

I'm not sure I follow the assertion of hypocrisy either. I think that
people that don't believe that living things evolve believe that the
world has always been like it is now and don't really subscribe to
either the biogenic or abiogenic theory on the origin of petroleum...
God created it on the eighth day but it was not deemed noteworthy at
the time. But then I guess I'm a really bad representative of their
ideas & beliefs.

I don't think there's much debate about where the petroleum is going.

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I thought petroleum, and most hydrocarbons, was formerly primarily
plant matter that had been trapped in sediment and covered by oceans,
algae & stuff being the liquid petroleum and trees & stuff ending up
as coal... but this discounts the whole abiogenic petroleum theory.

I guess I'm not really sure where petroleum comes from, I suspect that
it had to be deposited in the sediment way long before there were such
things as dinosaurs (obviously the folks at Sinclair Oil co
disagree).  I just could live with myself if I believed that I was
burning Fred's cute little Dino every time I lit the furnace.

I'm not sure I follow the assertion of hypocrisy either.  I think that
people that don't believe that living things evolve believe that the
world has always been like it is now and don't really subscribe to
either the biogenic or abiogenic theory on the origin of petroleum...
God created it on the eighth day but it was not deemed noteworthy at
the time.  But then I guess I'm a really bad representative of their
ideas & beliefs.

I don't think there's much debate about where the petroleum is going.

Well, even if you concede that the origin or petroleum is
"mysterious," it's clear that it contradicts the Bible's account of a
recent creation. The dinosaurs too contradict the story of Noah's ark.
Why God wiped them out?

I think what it is that Christians are some monkeys that deny their
ancestry while behaving like simple predators. Actually they are
excellent survivors in this Darwinistic jungle where we live. But they
forget one lesson from evolution itself, something the dinosaurs were
too stupid to understand...

"It is not the strongest of the species that survive, nor the most
intelligent, but the one most responsive to change." -Charles Darwin

Another T-shirt not for oil junkies...

http://www.zazzle.com/no_gasno_problem_shirt-235183723244701428

I hope those who drive SUVs will like the SUBs. Just kidding...

http://www.zazzle.com/bike_for_peace_shirt-235712478668290802

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Red Cloud wrote:

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> That's honest opinion being American consumer automobile addicted
> culture.  Sure Americans are fighting for green stuff but that's
> just window dressing. In deepest psyche of America, they are all
> desire to drive SUV and Hummer. That is the American psyche. Driving
> big car, driving like NASCAR are their passion and psyche. This is
> why bicycle will never be the public transporatation in America.
> Bike is too slow and too silence and unable to kill human being.

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Only missing thing photo Red Cloud tear in eye.  HHT!  SB

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If you are concerned with your health, you won't be riding a
bicycle.  Too many accidents per mile.

First of all, WHOOSH.

Secondly, I'm well over 20,000 miles now, with zero accidents.  When should
I start getting scared?!?

Bill "now mountain biking is a far different story" S.-

Well, I can see you are a survivor. But when they invite people like
you to national TV, maybe many will imitate you. Monkey see monkey
do. 😉

The problem is nobody talks about heroes like you, while SUV
commercials flash every 5 minutes.

ilaboo aka Peter Lener said:

suv here in new york city are now a dead issue

what we now see are 1/2 ton 4 wheel drive pickups with double wheels in back
and passenger cabs...

Wrong. No such thing as a one-half (1/2) ton pick-up truck with dual
rear wheels in back. If it has dual rear wheels, it is either a one (1)
ton pickup or "commercial duty" pickup.

--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
"And never forget, life ultimately makes failures of all people." A. Derleth

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😉

I had sea monkeys when I was a kid...

Amy Blankenship said:

I had sea monkeys when I was a kid...

Penicillin clear things up?

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Amy Blankenship said:

I had sea monkeys when I was a kid...

Penicillin clear things up?

You only need that if you feed them too much. Clouds the water.

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> No, SUVs (or whatever vehicle you drive) don't run on water. They run
> on oil,
Some of them run on corn (ethanol) now.

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No, at most there is only 15% ethanol mixed in with the gasoline.

wrong e85 is 85% ethanol

Well, then, the signs on the gas pumps are incorrect when they state: "May
contain up to 15% ethanol."

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I think I read that during the Carboniferous period that
the earth was as hot as it has ever been.

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ISTR that one of the reasons was due to large amounts of
water vapor in the air (volcanoes?  geothermal activity?).
Can't remember what the source of it was.  Maybe just
evaporation from oceans.

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At any rate, the air can be very heavily saturated with
water without it raining, or without rain clearing up
the humidity.  Check out many of the tropical locations
of the world where heavy rains don't lessen humidity.

From:

http://www.wxdude.com/humidity.html

Air can only hold 100% relative humidity.  For rain the 100% relative
humidity is at the altitude where the rain is coming from, not the ground
where the humidity gage is normally.  It takes some time for the 100%
humidity "mist" to form into drops which fall as rain.  There are cases
where there can be super cooled water being more than 100%, but that is
rare.

So for all practical purposes vapor is not going to do much to increase
global warming because it will precipitate out as rain when it reaches 100%
humidity at some place in the atmosphere.  Since we get rain now, the air is
often saturated at some place with the maximum moisture it can hold.

There are three gases emitted by aircraft which contribute to global
warming: H2O, CO2 and NOx The most obvious is the water vapour which
forms condensation trails - clouds of frozen ice crystals. Since the
air in the upper troposphere (the level at which most commerical
planes fly) is naturally very dry, water vapour emitted by aircraft
can make a big difference. Sometimes the contrails cover the whole
sky. Have you ever wondered, why the sky is so much clearer in remoter
locations?

Although these contrails reflect a little sunlight away from earth,
they reflect back to earth much more invisible infra-red (heat)
radiation which would otherwise escape to space - and therefore they
have an overall warming effect. This is hard to measure accurately,
because the contrails eventually spread out and become
indistinguishable from natural cirrus clouds.

Not all of the water vapour forms contrails, but water is itself a
"greenhouse gas" which also traps this outgoing infra-red radiation.
Each water molecule traps much more heat and also survives much longer
at this height than it would do at sea-level.

Jet-fuel - kerosene - is a mixture of substances produced by
distilling crude oil, which can be represented by C13H28. The chemical
equation for burning it is as follows:
2C13H28 + 40O2 =>26CO2 + 28H2O

So you can see, that for every 14 water molecules produced, the
aircraft must also emit 13 of CO2. This is also a greenhouse gas and
will stay in the atmosphere warming the earth for an average of 100
years, some of it for 1000s of years. There's no way that you can get
the energy from such fossil fuel without producing that much CO2. It's
not a by-product that can be "scrubbed" from the exhaust.

Pat said:

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>> No, SUVs (or whatever vehicle you drive) don't run on water. They run
>> on oil,
> Some of them run on corn (ethanol) now.

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No, at most there is only 15% ethanol mixed in with the gasoline.

wrong e85 is 85% ethanol

Well, then, the signs on the gas pumps are incorrect when they state: "May
contain up to 15% ethanol."

Here is the wiki link :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E85