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Precor Elliptical: Watts vs Cyclist's?

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  1. I've started doing 1-hour sessions on Precor's 100i elliptical
    machine.

    http://www.bodyconcept.com/family/6133/display.html

    I'm using "Calories Per Minute" to measure myself.

    Currently, my cruising speed seems tb about 17 calories per
    minute or 1020 calories per hour.

    But the conversion factor to watts that I see is 860 calories per
    hour (859.8452), which gives me an output in watts of a little
    under 1.2. (1.1816) http://tinyurl.com/2x3833

    My understanding is that competitive cyclists put out from 150 to
    300 watts.

    1.2...... 150.... seems like an awfully big diff.

    Am I calculating something incorrectly? Maybe dropping a
    decimal point....

    Or is my capacity really that pitiful?
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    PeteCresswell

  2. (PeteCresswell) said:

    1.2...... 150.... seems like an awfully big diff.

    Quoted message said:

    Am I calculating something incorrectly? Maybe dropping a
    decimal point....

    Probably your machine's "calories" are actually kilocalories whereas
    your conversion uses actual calories which would make the result off
    by a factor of 1000. Then again, 1200 W sounds superhuman for a
    long-term effort, so I would guess that it displays something the
    energy you consume rather the energy that would be used for locomotion
    (making the comparable figure something between 240 W and 300 W), or
    that the meter just shows some random numbers with some positive
    correlation to actual energy expenditure (I have had one piece of
    fitness equipment with such a feature).

  3. Per Phil Holman:

    Quoted message said:

    3 things, 1.2 should be 1200w (kilocalories v calories) and the numbers
    quoted for your burn rate assume a 25% efficiency. That is, your actual
    useable output would be 1200/4 = 300 watts. These machines are usally
    pitifully inaccurate. 300 watts for cruising should see you with a pro
    contract :-)

    So... suspicions confirmed: No actual relationship to reality....

    The big thing to me is that it's repeatable and, maybe,
    comparable (i.e. I can sneak a glance at the guy next to me and
    see how I'm doing compared to him....)

    But I suspect that even the "comparable" aspect is suspect. Seems
    to me like I can game the system - higher resistance settings
    produce higher calorie readings with less perceived effort than
    lower settings. And, of course, a lot of people just hop on the
    thing and start booking - without punching in their body
    weight.... so they're getting artificially low readings unless
    they're quite light.
    --
    PeteCresswell

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