Carl Fogel Jan 23, 7:00 pm, less than an hour later calls me a liar without waiting for my reply to Clive: "I'm not surprised that you got no real answer beyond that vague tarmacadam farm lane that only one farmer uses, continent unspecified...etc"
You do not quote Carl Fogel calling you a liar. Will you cite the Message-ID where he called you a liar? After calling up and re-reading some messages I have not found Carl Fogel calling you a liar. I have found several articles where you call Carl Fogel a liar.