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  1. I'm tall - 6'4". That's 193 cm for those of you that don't know the length
    of an inch. And at about 200 lbs (90 kg) I'm about average weight for my
    size.

    I came back to riding around 1985 or so and started getting serious about it
    by 1987. At first I was just exercising and buying inadequate bikes that
    were cheap. Then I bought a Schwinn Voyageur and thought that I had the
    ultimate bicycle despite the fact that without a touring load on it, you
    could tingle your hands just riding up the street on rough asphalt.

    Then mountain biking took over and a group of us from where I was working
    essentially raced each other every MTB ride. One of the guys with us had
    been on the Schwinn road team so it isn't as if we were slow. That company
    broke up and we went our ways and most of the group moved out of the area.
    No more MTB rides and the California departments of parks and all that
    started closing down access to MTB's since we were actually using the trails
    and facilities and they actually wanted unused as hiking areas.

    Back to road riding for me and eventually in with a club. I was lucky that
    one of the guys in the club would put on rides that I could keep up with.
    The fast guys would complain but he was a popular guy so they'd slow down
    too. Besides, when he turned it up he could drop all of them.

    Anyway, I went through a lot of bikes. I dumped a lot of them because I
    didn't like them and now I have a dozen or so and thought that you might
    want to know what I think about some of them and why I keep them.

    My first "good" bike was a Colnago Super. This was a size 61 cm and while it
    rode nicely it had some bad manners coming down hills. It could get a speed
    wobble that would scare the devil out of the devil. Eventually I replaced
    the fork with a carbon fork and it transformed a nice light bike with some
    bad manners into a lighter bike with impeccable manners. If you can pick up
    an older Super (mine's a 1982) in the larger sizes just be sure to put a
    good new fork on it since the stock fork was far too stiff for the strength
    of the frame.

    Eddy Merckx bikes are very good in the larger sizes. I have a Corsa 0.1 and
    it is absolute dynamite though you have to be sure of the fit. It is a
    heavier bike for this day and age though and you'd probably not ride one of
    a hilly road course.

    I have a Look KG 241 and it is a fine example of a nice riding bike though I
    wouldn't want to race it. This model in the larger sizes handles very well
    and is my everyday rider but it is flexible and I think it loses some power
    in that flexing. No matter for a training bike but as a racer you want the
    pedals attached more directly to the rear wheel. My brother is much shorter
    than me and rides a Look 555 and his seems to be both stiff and super light.
    But I couldn't attest to the handling in the larger size though I'm
    reasonably sure that Look has bicycles down pat.

    I have a Time VX Edge. This is a spectacularly great bike and is what I
    think of as the ultimate bike. It rides so smoothly that I just love it. And
    yet it is so stiff that you can feel each push on the pedals. I can
    understand why they price it so dearly.

    Here's something a bit off kilter - I have a Basso Loto - this is a 1996
    version made with Columbus EL tubes. It and the Time weigh only a lb
    different and they ride almost completely identical! When I'm coming down a
    rough very fast and complicated descent on the Time I always have a little
    doubt in the back of my mind about whether those carbon tubes are going to
    hold up. But I never have those ideas when I'm on the Basso. If I were to
    have only one bike it would be the Basso hands down. Steel fork and all. Too
    bad these aren't made in steel any more. I guess you'd have to buy a
    Waterford which is almost identical though the construction standards on the
    Waterford are probably the finest in the business whereas the Basso brothers
    had pretty bad finishing standards on their bikes.

    I also have a Colnago C40. It took me awhile to warm up to this bike.
    Previously I had what was claimed to be Axel Merckx's Colnago Master from
    his junior days. That ride was so stiff that I couldn't stand to ride it. It
    would beat me to death at least three times on a 40 mile ride. Finally I
    sold it and the guy who bought it seemed pleased. I suppose there's no
    accounting for tastes.

    Anyway, the C40 is stiff as well but it doesn't ride rough like the Master
    did. On a club ride the C40 isn't a very nice ride. But as soon as you start
    pushing hard it comes into its own. There's no doubt that Colnago
    understands racing geometry and the C40 really demonstrates it. Coming down
    the hardest, nastiest, steepest descent it makes the turns feel like you're
    going about 10 mph slower than you are. And there's never a doubt in your
    mind where you are heading. Most other bikes have a tiny bit of wander -
    nothing you can feel but you're always alert and correcting your course the
    tiniest bit. On the C40 there's nothing to correct. It goes where its
    pointed.

    If you're going to race and you can choose which bike to race on, the Time,
    Basso (Waterford) or Colnago C40 (now you'd have to get a C50) are perfectly
    suited to the highest standards of handling and I could recommend them
    without reservation. There isn't any question in my mind that in the larger
    sizes these are some of the best equipment available.

    But also remember - the differences between the top of the line and the
    middle class bikes are pretty small. I'd expect that you'd have to be at
    least a Cat 3 before you could even tell the difference in bike handling and
    your own mishandling.

  2. Tom Kunich' cyclintom@yahoo. com said:

    I'm tall - 6'4". That's 193 cm for those of you that don't know the length
    of an inch. And at about 200 lbs (90 kg) I'm about average weight for my
    size.

    I came back to riding around 1985 or so and started getting serious about it
    by 1987. At first I was just exercising and buying inadequate bikes that
    were cheap. Then I bought a Schwinn Voyageur and thought that I had the
    ultimate bicycle despite the fact that without a touring load on it, you
    could tingle your hands just riding up the street on rough asphalt.

    Then mountain biking took over and a group of us from where I was working
    essentially raced each other every MTB ride. One of the guys with us had
    been on the Schwinn road team so it isn't as if we were slow. That company
    broke up and we went our ways and most of the group moved out of the area.
    No more MTB rides and the California departments of parks and all that
    started closing down access to MTB's since we were actually using the trails
    and facilities and they actually wanted unused as hiking areas.

    Back to road riding for me and eventually in with a club. I was lucky that
    one of the guys in the club would put on rides that I could keep up with.
    The fast guys would complain but he was a popular guy so they'd slow down
    too. Besides, when he turned it up he could drop all of them.

    Anyway, I went through a lot of bikes. I dumped a lot of them because I
    didn't like them and now I have a dozen or so and thought that you might
    want to know what I think about some of them and why I keep them.

    My first "good" bike was a Colnago Super. This was a size 61 cm and while it
    rode nicely it had some bad manners coming down hills. It could get a speed
    wobble that would scare the devil out of the devil. Eventually I replaced
    the fork with a carbon fork and it transformed a nice light bike with some
    bad manners into a lighter bike with impeccable manners. If you can pick up
    an older Super (mine's a 1982) in the larger sizes just be sure to put a
    good new fork on it since the stock fork was far too stiff for the strength
    of the frame.

    Eddy Merckx bikes are very good in the larger sizes. I have a Corsa 0.1 and
    it is absolute dynamite though you have to be sure of the fit. It is a
    heavier bike for this day and age though and you'd probably not ride one of
    a hilly road course.

    I have a Look KG 241 and it is a fine example of a nice riding bike thoughI
    wouldn't want to race it. This model in the larger sizes handles very well
    and is my everyday rider but it is flexible and I think it loses some power
    in that flexing. No matter for a training bike but as a racer you want the
    pedals attached more directly to the rear wheel. My brother is much shorter
    than me and rides a Look 555 and his seems to be both stiff and super light.
    But I couldn't attest to the handling in the larger size though I'm
    reasonably sure that Look has bicycles down pat.

    I have a Time VX Edge. This is a spectacularly great bike and is what I
    think of as the ultimate bike. It rides so smoothly that I just love it. And
    yet it is so stiff that you can feel each push on the pedals. I can
    understand why they price it so dearly.

    Here's something a bit off kilter - I have a Basso Loto - this is a 1996
    version made with Columbus EL tubes. It and the Time weigh only a lb
    different and they ride almost completely identical! When I'm coming down a
    rough very fast and complicated descent on the Time I always have a little
    doubt in the back of my mind about whether those carbon tubes are going to
    hold up. But I never have those ideas when I'm on the Basso. If I were to
    have only one bike it would be the Basso hands down. Steel fork and all. Too
    bad these aren't made in steel any more. I guess you'd have to buy a
    Waterford which is almost identical though the construction standards on the
    Waterford are probably the finest in the business whereas the Basso brothers
    had pretty bad finishing standards on their bikes.

    I also have a Colnago C40. It took me awhile to warm up to this bike.
    Previously I had what was claimed to be Axel Merckx's Colnago Master from
    his junior days. That ride was so stiff that I couldn't stand to ride it. It
    would beat me to death at least three times on a 40 mile ride. Finally I
    sold it and the guy who bought it seemed pleased. I suppose there's no
    accounting for tastes.

    Anyway, the C40 is stiff as well but it doesn't ride rough like the Master
    did. On a club ride the C40 isn't a very nice ride. But as soon as you start
    pushing hard it comes into its own. There's no doubt that Colnago
    understands racing geometry and the C40 really demonstrates it. Coming down
    the hardest, nastiest, steepest descent it makes the turns feel like you're
    going about 10 mph slower than you are. And there's never a doubt in your
    mind where you are heading. Most other bikes have a tiny bit of wander -
    nothing you can feel but you're always alert and correcting your course the
    tiniest bit. On the C40 there's nothing to correct. It goes where its
    pointed.

    If you're going to race and you can choose which bike to race on, the Time,
    Basso (Waterford) or Colnago C40 (now you'd have to get a C50) are perfectly
    suited to the highest standards of handling and I could recommend them
    without reservation. There isn't any question in my mind that in the larger
    sizes these are some of the best equipment available.

    But also remember - the differences between the top of the line and the
    middle class bikes are pretty small. I'd expect that you'd have to be at
    least a Cat 3 before you could even tell the difference in bike handling and
    your own mishandling.

    Wow, thanks for reminding us how many bikes you've owned over the
    years or how much you think your silly-assed opinions matter. Remind
    me, please, who asked the question that you felt compelled to answer?

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