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  1. I have an older schwinn mountain bike.. it has the standard nut type
    hub on the rear wheel..

    I've recently acquired a trainer, and for the trainer (Minoura rim
    drive powermatic system), they use skewers and recommend replacing the
    existing skewer to theirs that came with it, which i did with my newer
    bike...

    Is it possible to convert the older bike's nut type setup to a quick
    release skewer setup? Or cost wise.. would it be cheaper to just find
    a bike that could be used as a trainer that had the quick release
    (used)...

    The local bike store said it wouldnt be possible to convert it.

    The bike was originally a 10 speed.. with the front sprocket having 2
    rings.. i upgraded that awhile back to 3 ring.. i think its 15 speed,
    but the back is the part that matters here i think...

    Any thoughts?

    Thanks

  2. On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 12:54:58 -0800 (PST), markm75 <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    I have an older schwinn mountain bike.. it has the standard nut type
    hub on the rear wheel..

    I've recently acquired a trainer, and for the trainer (Minoura rim
    drive powermatic system), they use skewers and recommend replacing the
    existing skewer to theirs that came with it, which i did with my newer
    bike...

    Is it possible to convert the older bike's nut type setup to a quick
    release skewer setup? Or cost wise.. would it be cheaper to just find
    a bike that could be used as a trainer that had the quick release
    (used)...

    The local bike store said it wouldnt be possible to convert it.

    The bike was originally a 10 speed.. with the front sprocket having 2
    rings.. i upgraded that awhile back to 3 ring.. i think its 15 speed,
    but the back is the part that matters here i think...

    Any thoughts?

    Yes. Give up mountain biking. You obviously aren't suited for it, and
    it harms the environent. Replacing laces on hiking shoes might be more
    your speed.

    Quoted message said:

    Thanks


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  3. Mike Vandeman said:

    On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 12:54:58 -0800 (PST), markm75 <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    I have an older schwinn mountain bike.. it has the standard nut type
    hub on the rear wheel..

    I've recently acquired a trainer, and for the trainer (Minoura rim
    drive powermatic system), they use skewers and recommend replacing the
    existing skewer to theirs that came with it, which i did with my newer
    bike...

    Is it possible to convert the older bike's nut type setup to a quick
    release skewer setup? Or cost wise.. would it be cheaper to just find
    a bike that could be used as a trainer that had the quick release
    (used)...

    The local bike store said it wouldnt be possible to convert it.

    The bike was originally a 10 speed.. with the front sprocket having 2
    rings.. i upgraded that awhile back to 3 ring.. i think its 15 speed,
    but the back is the part that matters here i think...

    Any thoughts?

    Yes. Give up mountain biking. You obviously aren't suited for it, and
    it harms the environent. Replacing laces on hiking shoes might be more
    your speed.


    Yo Mikey,

    How does riding a mountain bicycle inside on a trainer harm natural areas?

    --
    Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
    The weather is here, wish you were beautiful

  4. markm75 said:

    I have an older schwinn mountain bike.. it has the standard nut type
    hub on the rear wheel..

    I've recently acquired a trainer, and for the trainer (Minoura rim
    drive powermatic system), they use skewers and recommend replacing the
    existing skewer to theirs that came with it, which i did with my newer
    bike...

    Is it possible to convert the older bike's nut type setup to a quick
    release skewer setup? Or cost wise.. would it be cheaper to just find
    a bike that could be used as a trainer that had the quick release
    (used)...

    The local bike store said it wouldnt be possible to convert it.

    Any thoughts?

    First of all I don't know if you have to replace it at all. The impression I got during a limited experience with a tacx trainer was that the trainer-supplied q/r simply was a beefier version of the same theme better suited to the bike/trainer interface and the clamping force of the trainer than the bike supplied one.

    A solid axle with nuts should be sturdier than a q/r to begin with, so maybe you merely need some extra axle nuts to provide a good interface for the trainer to clamp on to?

    With that said there's a decent chance that the wheel would still be able to convert to q/r.
    The thing that might cause trouble is that axles comes in several different threadings, and in order to be able to reuse the current cones the lbs needs to find a hollow axle of the same thread as your solid axle. If such an item can't be found then they'd have to replace the cones as well, which could lead to trouble with the washers and seals not fitting properly.
    But for a bike destined for a life indoors seals aren't exactly critical and could very well be ignored w/o much in the way of negative consequences.

  5. On Feb 19, 6:57 am, dabac <dabac.351...@no-

    mx.forums.cyclingforums.com said:

    markm75Wrote:

    Quoted message said:

    I have an older schwinn mountain bike.. it has the standard nut type
    hub on the rear wheel..

    Quoted message said:

    I've recently acquired a trainer, and for the trainer (Minoura rim
    drive powermatic system), they use skewers and recommend replacing the
    existing skewer to theirs that came with it, which i did with my newer
    bike...

    Quoted message said:

    Is it possible to convert the older bike's nut type setup to a quick
    release skewer setup?  Or cost wise.. would it be cheaper to just find
    a bike that could be used as a trainer that had the quick release
    (used)...

    Quoted message said:

    The local bike store said it wouldnt be possible to convert it.

    Quoted message said:

    Any thoughts?

    First of all I don't know if you have to replace it at all. The
    impression I got during a limited experience with a tacx trainer was
    that the trainer-supplied q/r simply was a beefier version  of the same
    theme better suited to the bike/trainer interface and the clamping force
    of the trainer than the bike supplied one.

    A solid axle with nuts should be sturdier than a q/r to begin with, so
    maybe you merely need some extra axle nuts to provide a good interface
    for the trainer to clamp on to?

    With that said there's a decent chance that the wheel would still be
    able to convert to q/r.
    The thing that might cause trouble is that axles comes in several
    different threadings, and in order to be able to reuse the current cones
    the lbs needs to find a hollow axle of the same thread as your solid
    axle. If such an item can't be found then they'd have to replace the
    cones as well, which could lead to trouble with the washers and seals
    not fitting properly.
    But for a bike destined for a life indoors seals aren't exactly
    critical and could very well be ignored w/o much in the way of negative
    consequences.

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    dabac- Hide quoted text -

    - Show quoted text -

    Ah.. so perhaps i should just plop the older bike in the trainer and
    see how stable it is.. it certainly couldnt hurt things.. at least
    until i go rolling through the big screen lol 🙂... Ill giver a try at
    some point..

    The other thing i need to possibly convert is the seat post nut and
    bolt.. to the easy release type.. i'm guessing this is possible
    without much trouble.

  6. Tom Sherman said:
    Mike Vandeman said:

    On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 12:54:58 -0800 (PST), markm75 <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    I have an older schwinn mountain bike.. it has the standard nut type
    hub on the rear wheel..

    I've recently acquired a trainer, and for the trainer (Minoura rim
    drive powermatic system), they use skewers and recommend replacing the
    existing skewer to theirs that came with it, which i did with my newer
    bike...

    Is it possible to convert the older bike's nut type setup to a quick
    release skewer setup? Or cost wise.. would it be cheaper to just find
    a bike that could be used as a trainer that had the quick release
    (used)...

    The local bike store said it wouldnt be possible to convert it.

    The bike was originally a 10 speed.. with the front sprocket having 2
    rings.. i upgraded that awhile back to 3 ring.. i think its 15 speed,
    but the back is the part that matters here i think...

    Any thoughts?

    Yes. Give up mountain biking. You obviously aren't suited for it, and
    it harms the environent. Replacing laces on hiking shoes might be more
    your speed.


    Yo Mikey,

    How does riding a mountain bicycle inside on a trainer harm natural areas?

    "Hard-core mountain biking may injure the scrotum"

    And cause similar harm to women.

    Touche',

    Mike

    Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 09:47:39 -0800
    From: Monica Craver <[email hidden]>
    Subject: From Reuters re: Mtb'er injuries

    Hard-core mountain biking may injure the scrotum

    Monday, Feb. 18, 2008; 8:27 AM

    NEW YORK (Reuters Health) - Men who are serious about mountain biking
    may run a serious risk of injuries to the scrotum, a new study
    suggests.

    Researchers found that, compared with hard-core male cyclists who
    stayed on paved roads, those who biked rugged terrain were more likely
    to show abnormalities in ultrasound scans of the scrotum.

    Fully 94 percent of the 85 mountain bikers had some form of scrotal
    abnormality -- most often calcium deposits or cysts. That compared
    with 48 percent of 50 on-road cyclists, the researchers report in the
    Clinical Journal of Sports Medicine.

    It's not clear what the ultrasound abnormalities mean, including
    whether they could affect mountain bikers' fertility, according to the
    researchers.

    "Further studies should be undertaken to determine the clinical
    significance of the sonographic changes," write Dr. Michael
    Mitterberger and his colleagues at the Medical University Innsbruck in
    Austria.

    Biking, whether in rough terrain or on paved roads, has been linked to
    impotence in men, and it's thought that pressure from the bike seat
    can eventually damage blood vessels and nerves. With mountain biking,
    the off-road terrain makes the impact on the groin that much greater
    and past research has found that male mountain bikers may have a high
    prevalence of scrotal injuries.

    The current study included men who biked on- or off-road for at least
    two hours per day, six days a week. Despite the many miles on-road
    cyclists logged, the percentage with scrotal abnormalities was
    significantly less when compared with mountain bikers.

    There are measures that serious mountain bikers can take to lessen the
    impact from below.

    One is to take frequent rests while biking. Padding in both the bike
    seat and bike shorts may also help. Experts also recommend that men be
    sure that the seat is raised high enough and that it sits at the
    proper angle.

    According to Mitterberger's team, bikes with shock absorbers and
    suspension systems "are mandatory to reduce the potential risk" of
    scrotal injuries. However, they add, riders also need to hone their
    technical skills to lessen the chances of injury.

    SOURCE: Clinical Journal of Sports Medicine, January 2008.
    --
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    humans ("pure habitat"😉. Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
    years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

    Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of!

    http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

  7. Mike Vandeman said:
    Tom Sherman said:
    Mike Vandeman said:

    On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 12:54:58 -0800 (PST), markm75 <[email hidden]>
    wrote:

    > I have an older schwinn mountain bike.. it has the standard nut type
    > hub on the rear wheel..
    >
    > I've recently acquired a trainer, and for the trainer (Minoura rim
    > drive powermatic system), they use skewers and recommend replacing the
    > existing skewer to theirs that came with it, which i did with my newer
    > bike...
    >
    > Is it possible to convert the older bike's nut type setup to a quick
    > release skewer setup? Or cost wise.. would it be cheaper to just find
    > a bike that could be used as a trainer that had the quick release
    > (used)...
    >
    > The local bike store said it wouldnt be possible to convert it.
    >
    > The bike was originally a 10 speed.. with the front sprocket having 2
    > rings.. i upgraded that awhile back to 3 ring.. i think its 15 speed,
    > but the back is the part that matters here i think...
    >
    > Any thoughts?
    Yes. Give up mountain biking. You obviously aren't suited for it, and
    it harms the environent. Replacing laces on hiking shoes might be more
    your speed.


    Yo Mikey,

    How does riding a mountain bicycle inside on a trainer harm natural areas?

    "Hard-core mountain biking may injure the scrotum"

    And cause similar harm to women.

    Touche',


    When did riding a trainer in the living room become "hard-core mountain
    biking"?

    --
    Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
    The weather is here, wish you were beautiful

  8. Tom Sherman said:
    Mike Vandeman said:
    Tom Sherman said:

    Mike Vandeman wrote:
    > On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 12:54:58 -0800 (PST), markm75 <[email hidden]>
    > wrote:
    >
    >> I have an older schwinn mountain bike.. it has the standard nut type
    >> hub on the rear wheel..
    >>
    >> I've recently acquired a trainer, and for the trainer (Minoura rim
    >> drive powermatic system), they use skewers and recommend replacing the
    >> existing skewer to theirs that came with it, which i did with my newer
    >> bike...
    >>
    >> Is it possible to convert the older bike's nut type setup to a quick
    >> release skewer setup? Or cost wise.. would it be cheaper to just find
    >> a bike that could be used as a trainer that had the quick release
    >> (used)...
    >>
    >> The local bike store said it wouldnt be possible to convert it.
    >>
    >> The bike was originally a 10 speed.. with the front sprocket having 2
    >> rings.. i upgraded that awhile back to 3 ring.. i think its 15 speed,
    >> but the back is the part that matters here i think...
    >>
    >> Any thoughts?
    > Yes. Give up mountain biking. You obviously aren't suited for it, and
    > it harms the environent. Replacing laces on hiking shoes might be more
    > your speed.
    >
    Yo Mikey,

    How does riding a mountain bicycle inside on a trainer harm natural areas?

    "Hard-core mountain biking may injure the scrotum"

    And cause similar harm to women.

    Touche',


    When did riding a trainer in the living room become "hard-core mountain
    biking"?

    Use your imagination. Do I have to spell out everything for you?
    --
    I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
    humans ("pure habitat"😉. Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
    years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

    Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of!

    http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

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