Jackass

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David Millar is a jackass.

Yes.

Yes he is.

-Bob

On May 14, 1:02 pm, Hell And High Water <[email hidden]>

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In article <7820caca-ca37-44c7-991d-
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says...

Quoted message said:

David Millar is a jackass.

Yes.

Yes he is.

-Bob

same old crybaby that he ever was ...

bar said:

On May 14, 1:02 pm, Hell And High Water <[email hidden]>

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In article <7820caca-ca37-44c7-991d-
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says...

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

David Millar is a jackass.

Quoted message said:

Yes.

Quoted message said:

Yes he is.

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-Bob

same old crybaby that he ever was ...

What's the big deal? He broke his chain, so he threw the bike away and
got a new one. I do that too.

On May 14, 10:46 am, ronaldo_jeremiah <[email hidden]>

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David Millar is a jackass.

-rj

Yeah, like YOU'd have handled it differently.

No reason for him to be so upset, he'd only just spent roughly 5 hours
working his [censored] off to put himself in a position to win a stage of
the Giro, only to have his chance taken away due to a mechanical.

Geez, cut him some slack. Frankly, I'd be concerned if he DIDN'T show
some anger/emotion.

Now, if he'd been a steroid-inflated baseball player who'd just struck
out in the bottom of the ninth, he'd have broken the bike over his
knee. THAT would've been impressive.

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On May 14, 10:46 am, ronaldo_jeremiah <[email hidden]>

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David Millar is a jackass.

-rj

Yeah, like YOU'd have handled it differently.

No reason for him to be so upset, he'd only just spent roughly 5 hours
working his [censored] off to put himself in a position to win a stage of
the Giro, only to have his chance taken away due to a mechanical.

Geez, cut him some slack. Frankly, I'd be concerned if he DIDN'T show
some anger/emotion.

Now, if he'd been a steroid-inflated baseball player who'd just struck
out in the bottom of the ninth, he'd have broken the bike over his
knee. THAT would've been impressive.

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Is this what Millar meant when he said that the rest of the Giro was all
icing and cherries?

Scott said:

...in a position to win a stage of
the Giro, only to have his chance taken away due to a mechanical.

Millar seems to be a magnet for such things though. It makes me
wonder if he told his mechanic something like "I'm going for it today,
so I want my bike as light as possible. Do you have a stupid light
chain to put on there for that little extra, but legal, edge? Don't
worry, I'll have a front derailleur this time so if I throw a chain
again, I can get it back on quicker and still have a go for the line.
And it's not like I'm using a disc wheel that'll fall apart on me
right out of the gate."

Victor Kan said:

Scott said:

...in a position to win a stage of
the Giro, only to have his chance taken away due to a mechanical.

Millar seems to be a magnet for such things though. It makes me
wonder if he told his mechanic something like "I'm going for it today,
so I want my bike as light as possible. Do you have a stupid light
chain to put on there for that little extra, but legal, edge? Don't
worry, I'll have a front derailleur this time so if I throw a chain
again, I can get it back on quicker and still have a go for the line.
And it's not like I'm using a disc wheel that'll fall apart on me
right out of the gate."

It's the Millar line. Everybody faster who doesn't break
their bicycle probably has a mechanic who's cheating.

I can't blame Millar for this toss. His chain broke at the
frickin' red kite - you can't get much worse timing. And
there's a good chance he smacked his groin on the
top tube in the process. I've seen Masters Fatties abuse
their bicycles during MTB races and throw them down in
disgust for much smaller slights.

Ben

Quoted message said:

David Millar is a jackass.

OK, let's think about this one just a little bit. Sure, he tossed his bike.
But it was in the final section of road where there were barriers on each
side, and there are two reasons to get it out of the roadway-

#1: There's not much room there, and an approaching pack getting ready for
the final sprint would likely plow into it and crash.

#2: It makes it darn clear to his support car that HE NEEDS A BIKE.

Seriously. His bike had to get off the roadway, period. The fact that he
threw it with such force, well sure, he was pretty upset. Had every right to
be. But really, in a case like that, it should be almost instinctive to get
your non-functioning bike out of harms way.

--Mike Jacoubowsky
Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReaction.com
Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA

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David Millar is a jackass.

-rj

On May 14, 4:08 pm, "Mike Jacoubowsky" <[email hidden]>

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Seriously. His bike had to get off the roadway, period. The fact that he
threw it with such force, well sure, he was pretty upset. Had every right to
be. But really, in a case like that, it should be almost instinctive to get
your non-functioning bike out of harms way.

So, why'd Riis need to toss his bike?

Scott said:

Yeah, like YOU'd have handled it differently.

Dumbass -

You've got that right.

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No reason for him to be so upset, he'd only just spent roughly 5 hours
working his [censored] off to put himself in a position to win a stage of
the Giro, only to have his chance taken away due to a mechanical.

Yeah, I know, that's never happened to anyone before in the history of
bike racing.

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Geez, cut him some slack.  Frankly, I'd be concerned if he DIDN'T show
some anger/emotion.

Millar has been given so much slack, he's really not entitled to any
more. He's lucky - very lucky - to be able to make a living racing a
bike at all. Further, he's outspoken about wanting to do things the
right way. I hardly think making an ass out of yourself on
international television coverage, and implicitly belittling your
equipment sponsors, is the way to do that.

After his immature move on that Vuelta mountain stage, the scores of
bad equipment decisions in major races, and getting caught red-handed
with hot sauce, this guy should be doing his best to maintain a more
positive profile. Even moreso now that he is older, and a team owner.

Throwing a bike is always lame.

-rj

On May 14, 3:54 pm, "[email hidden]" <[email hidden]>

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I've seen Masters Fatties abuse
their bicycles during MTB races and throw them down in
disgust for much smaller slights.

I've given up on throwing my bike around. It's a sacrifice, it really
is, but I don't want some mom whose son may have recently died to see
me throwing a bike. I feel I owe it to the families to be as -- to be
in solidarity as best as I can with them. And I think throwing a bike
around during a war just sends the wrong signal.

Robert Chung said:

On May 14, 3:54 pm, "[email hidden]" <[email hidden]>

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I've seen Masters Fatties abuse
their bicycles during MTB races and throw them down in
disgust for much smaller slights.

I've given up on throwing my bike around. It's a sacrifice, it really
is, but I don't want some mom whose son may have recently died to see
me throwing a bike. I feel I owe it to the families to be as -- to be
in solidarity as best as I can with them. And I think throwing a bike
around during a war just sends the wrong signal.

I just claim to have spotted a terrorist. Throwing your bike at
terrorists is the patriotic thing to do.

Robert Chung said:

On May 14, 3:54 pm, "[email hidden]" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

I've seen Masters Fatties abuse
their bicycles during MTB races and throw them down in
disgust for much smaller slights.

I've given up on throwing my bike around. It's a sacrifice, it really
is, but I don't want some mom whose son may have recently died to see
me throwing a bike. I feel I owe it to the families to be as -- to be
in solidarity as best as I can with them. And I think throwing a bike
around during a war just sends the wrong signal.

Typical leftist gay tripe. If we don't throw our bikes around over there,
they will be throwing their bikes around here at home. I wouldn't expect
an America-hater like you to understand how not throwing your bike
emboldens them, but the patriots here will recognize the wisdom in what I
said. Somewhere. Millar threw his bike so you could go for afternoon
rides in safety, the least you could do is acknowledge his sacrifice
without turning it into a political rant. Or something.

--
Bill Asher

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Mike Jacoubowsky said:

Quoted message said:

David Millar is a jackass.

OK, let's think about this one just a little bit. Sure, he tossed his bike.
But it was in the final section of road where there were barriers on each
side, and there are two reasons to get it out of the roadway-

#1: There's not much room there, and an approaching pack getting ready for
the final sprint would likely plow into it and crash.

#2: It makes it darn clear to his support car that HE NEEDS A BIKE.

Seriously. His bike had to get off the roadway, period. The fact that he
threw it with such force, well sure, he was pretty upset. Had every right to
be. But really, in a case like that, it should be almost instinctive to get
your non-functioning bike out of harms way.

Fascinating bit of post-hoc reasoning. I can't help but feel the
Slipstream mechanics may have wanted him to leave the bike a wee bit
closer to the barriers, so they could retrieve it.

But I do like your theory.

This was, in fact, a much stronger toss than the notorious Riis throw.
This leads us to the shocking conclusion that Riis was clean when he
threw his bike.

--
Ryan Cousineau [email hidden] http://www.wiredcola.com/
"In other newsgroups, they killfile trolls."
"In rec.bicycles.racing, we coach them."

Ryan Cousineau said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Mike Jacoubowsky said:

Quoted message said:

David Millar is a jackass.

OK, let's think about this one just a little bit. Sure, he tossed his
bike. But it was in the final section of road where there were
barriers on each side, and there are two reasons to get it out of the
roadway-

#1: There's not much room there, and an approaching pack getting
ready for the final sprint would likely plow into it and crash.

#2: It makes it darn clear to his support car that HE NEEDS A BIKE.

Seriously. His bike had to get off the roadway, period. The fact that
he threw it with such force, well sure, he was pretty upset. Had
every right to be. But really, in a case like that, it should be
almost instinctive to get your non-functioning bike out of harms way.

Fascinating bit of post-hoc reasoning. I can't help but feel the
Slipstream mechanics may have wanted him to leave the bike a wee bit
closer to the barriers, so they could retrieve it.

But I do like your theory.

This was, in fact, a much stronger toss than the notorious Riis throw.
This leads us to the shocking conclusion that Riis was clean when he
threw his bike.

There's a still image on CyclingNews of him standing there waiting for the
team car with his bike. So somebody handed it back over the barrier to him
as he stood by the side waiting.

I still think it was a woossie throw, he never got his whole body into it.

--
Bill Asher

ronaldo_jeremiah said:

After his immature move on that Vuelta mountain stage, the scores of
bad equipment decisions in major races, and getting caught red-handed
with hot sauce,

I love that stuff. Well, maybe not the doping, but the rest

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bar said:

On May 14, 1:02 pm, Hell And High Water <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

In article <7820caca-ca37-44c7-991d-
[email hidden]>, [email hidden]
says...

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David Millar is a jackass.

Yes.

Yes he is.

same old crybaby that he ever was ...

The team and equipment suppliers need that kind of exposure.
Millar rides the bicycles they tell him to ride.
The equipment is supposed to hold up to race conditions.
How much milage does a stage race bicycle get? Sheesh.
If he had had the time he could have left a testing sample
with the defunct racing equipment.

--
Michael Press

On May 14, 5:02 pm, ronaldo_jeremiah <[email hidden]>

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On May 14, 3:38 pm, Scott <[email hidden]> wrote:

Throwing a bike is always lame.

Well he threw one down from the top of the stairs
Beautiful women were standing everywhere
They all got wet when he smashed that thing
But off in the dark you could hear somebody sing

It started back in 1963
His momma wouldnt buy him
That new Schwinn Varsity
He settled for a Huffy with a crack
But hes stIll trying to break his mommas back

There out to be a law with no bail
Smash a bike and you go to jail
With no chance for early parole
You don't get out tIll you get some soul

Late at night the end of the road
He wished he still had the old bike he rode
He'd rock it like a baby in his arms
Never let it come to any harm

On May 14, 6:02 pm, ronaldo_jeremiah <[email hidden]>

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Throwing a bike is always lame.

The other end of the spectrum is Eric Zabel who had a frame collapse
under him in the middle of a TDF field sprint and never admitted that
the bike failed. They threw the bike in a van and never acknowledged
the failure. Kind of disappointing.

As someone who has tried to beat a few inanimate objects to death, I
can almost sympathize with Millar, but not the bike.

Bret