Siutsou, big tick for High Road

Strong enough to do well in the short tours, dies in the longer ones. Maybe he's just not in form? I wouldn't definitely pin that down on him not doping, although if he wasn't doping this would happen for sure. Pinotti seems to be HR top GC man for this, so he'll be getting priority on the dope.

Eldrack said:

Strong enough to do well in the short tours, dies in the longer ones. Maybe he's just not in form? I wouldn't definitely pin that down on him not doping, although if he wasn't doping this would happen for sure. Pinotti seems to be HR top GC man for this, so he'll be getting priority on the dope.

nope.

Siutsou was their GC rider.

Pinotti is the most outspoken rider in Italy re: doping

thunder said:

nope.

Siutsou was their GC rider.

Pinotti is the most outspoken rider in Italy re: doping

I'm just going on the current GC standings, although I'll agree that before the Giro started you would have expected Siutsou to have placed higher than Pinotti at this point.

As for being outspoken about doping, doesn't really hold much ground with me. Look at Voigt, shouts his mouth off about being clean and then propels his fat ass up steep mountains quicker than proven climbers who are 20 kilo's lighter than him. The there's LA. 7 years worth of [censored] saying how he wasn't doping and look what happened.

Eldrack said:

I'm just going on the current GC standings, although I'll agree that before the Giro started you would have expected Siutsou to have placed higher than Pinotti at this point.

As for being outspoken about doping, doesn't really hold much ground with me. Look at Voigt, shouts his mouth off about being clean and then propels his fat ass up steep mountains quicker than proven climbers who are 20 kilo's lighter than him. The there's LA. 7 years worth of [censored] saying how he wasn't doping and look what happened.

all Pinotti can do is timetrial, and then hang as long as possible.

clean man's Zabriskie, prior to Zabriskie riding at High Road

thunder said:

all Pinotti can do is timetrial, and then hang as long as possible.

clean man's Zabriskie, prior to Zabriskie riding at High Road

ok, now I'm really confused because *you* seem to be confused about Zabriskie's teams ... 😕

confusedfan said:

ok, now I'm really confused because *you* seem to be confused about Zabriskie's teams ... 😕

no, just a mere malapropism

I still reckon he will take a stage or come close to it - probably in a breakaway and still finish in the top 30 in the GC. I think he is just waiting to set himself to help Kirchen in the tour and will ride a big tour.

Grater said:

I still reckon he will take a stage or come close to it - probably in a breakaway and still finish in the top 30 in the GC. I think he is just waiting to set himself to help Kirchen in the tour and will ride a big tour.

Also, if you look at the results yesterday - 4 men were protecting Cavendish for today - he was one of them.

thunder said:

Siutsou came in with the autobus today, 20+ minutes down.

This guy was in the top 20 at the Tour on Barlo into the second or third week, before he had a jour sans, and finished 32 on GC.

So this is a tick for High Road running a clean program. Not to say some, and probably more than just some, on HR, are not running their own medical programs, but Siutsou cant be.

He beat Levi in Tour de Georgia three weeks back.

The logic befuddles me...he has a bad day/tour so you give his team a thumbs up for not doping?

Next we'll be giving fair play awards to the team's finishing last because they're clean?

Someone give that guy with a black number a medal or something!!!!