ADT Velodrome at Home Depot Sports Center

thanx for the update!

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I'll be sending more pictures to Mike Gladu to put up on his Web site www.velodrome.com

It looks like there'll be a new velodrome by next spring!

Agreed.

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Ok, guys. I've obviously been out of the loop for quite a while so I am in need of an education here. This new velodrome is on campus at CSUDH? What happened to the old concrete 7up Olympic velodrome there?

Russ

yes... the old track is torn down and there is now a stadium complex with a big soccer stadium for
the LA MLS team (whatever the hell it is called)...

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Ok, guys. I've obviously been out of the loop for quite a while so I am in need of an education
here. This new velodrome is on campus at CSUDH? What happened to the old concrete 7up Olympic
velodrome there?

Russ

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Erik Saunders
[B]yes... the old track is torn down and there is now a stadium complex with a big soccer stadium for
the LA MLS team (whatever the hell it is called)...

I'm not really sure why I am shocked since it has been so long since I paid attention and I haven't lived in LA for 5 years.

Did they just tear it out so they could put in the soccer stadium or was there also something wrong with the velodrome? It was less than 20 years old.

Is the Encino velodrome still around? That thing is ancient.

Russ

In article said:

Ok, guys. I've obviously been out of the loop for quite a while so I am in need of an education
here. This new velodrome is on campus at CSUDH? What happened to the old concrete 7up Olympic
velodrome there?

The MLS LA GALAXY are now housed in a lovely outdoor stadium where the 'drome sat, plus a
world-class tennis stadium, acres and acres of amateur soccer fields, and the new indoor ADT
Velodrome down at the south end of the property.

New pics are up on the velodromes.com site of the construction.

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The first horizontal member of the roof is in place (backbone truss between the two inside-track
posts), and it shouldn't be long before they get the radial trusses up that will span the facility.

Indoor track racing! Coming soon to the USA!

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...the old track is torn down and there is now a stadium complex with a big soccer stadium for the
LA MLS team (whatever the hell it is called)...

The LA Galaxy.

RK3 said:

Did they just tear it out so they could put in the soccer stadium or was there also something
wrong with the velodrome? It was less than 20 years old.

Nothing other than no one with millions to spend on it.

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Is the Encino velodrome still around? That thing is ancient.

It's operational, with a recently improved infield. Resurfacing as a wood track is on the agenda,
but 'issues' kept it from happening this year.

Some info is on my site <www.velodrome.com>, with links to the LA and Encino sites.

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Mike Gladu said:

New pics are up on the velodromes.com site of the construction.

velodromes.comLos Angeles.htmlOpen ↗

The first horizontal member of the roof is in place (backbone truss between the two inside-track
posts), and it shouldn't be long before they get the radial trusses up that will span the
facility.

Indoor track racing! Coming soon to the USA!

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Damn that is cool. I can't wait to go check it out.

Chris

Russ The 7-11 velodrome was torn down for the Home Depot center where the Galaxy plays home games.
The ADT venue is supposed to replace it. I have looked in periodically but have not seen any
progress for awhile. I hope they actually build a velodrome there. The bldg could have any number of
uses. The contractor from Germany has lots of graphics but no pictures showing a track yet.

Bob

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Ok, guys. I've obviously been out of the loop for quite a while so I am in need of an education
here. This new velodrome is on campus at CSUDH? What happened to the old concrete 7up Olympic
velodrome there?

Russ

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Russ The 7-11 velodrome was torn down for the Home Depot center where the Galaxy plays home games.
The ADT venue is supposed to replace it. I have looked in periodically but have not seen any
progress for awhile. I hope they actually build a velodrome there. The bldg could have any number
of uses. The contractor from Germany has lots of graphics but no pictures showing a track yet.

Bob

Are you looking in the right area?..it has been moved to the south end of the site off of university
ave. the roof is on now...track will be coming in soon

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Dave

I took pics last Friday and sent them to Mike Gladu to post on his Velodrome.com Web site.

The walls are being put into place.

It looks like the exterior will be weather tight in a couple of weeks, or maybe a month, so that
interior construction can continue without regard to the weather.

Robert Burns said:

Russ The 7-11 velodrome was torn down for the Home Depot center where the Galaxy plays home games.
The ADT venue is supposed to replace it. I have looked in periodically but have not seen any
progress for awhile. I hope they actually build a velodrome there. The bldg could have any number
of uses. The contractor from Germany has lots of graphics but no pictures showing a track yet.

Bob

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Ok, guys. I've obviously been out of the loop for quite a while so I am in need of an education
here. This new velodrome is on campus at CSUDH? What happened to the old concrete 7up Olympic
velodrome there?

Russ

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Robert Burns said:

Russ The 7-11 velodrome was torn down for the Home Depot center where the Galaxy plays home games.
The ADT venue is supposed to replace it. I have looked in periodically but have not seen any
progress for awhile. I hope they actually build a velodrome there. The bldg could have any number
of uses. The contractor from Germany has lots of graphics but no pictures showing a track yet.

Bob

You need to look again. First thing you see when driving by campus on the University Blvd side, not
up on the hill where it used to be.

Translucent fabric over steel roof is up, walls going on as we speak. Pre-fab, lift into place
concrete panels. Looks a lot like an octaconal Home Depot going up <grin>.

Facility is intended as a multi-use, but I haven't heard of any events planned for it other than
USCF Junior Natz and UCI Worlds in 2004 and UCI Elite Worlds in 2005.

I believe they are on schedule to complete in time.

While the site is protected from rain, the infield and track support pours can be started. Once the
floor is cured, they can start bringing in the 499 or so pre-fab wood trusses to erect the frame.
That has to be complete before the Siberian Pine stick-wood surface can go on.

It's a thing of beuty to watch when it goes up.

I may be a bit more interested in the process than most, but I wish I could be there to swing a
hammer or just watch.

If my spies keep sending me pix (thanks Colin), I'll keep posting them at velodrome.com.

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Translucent fabric over steel roof is up, walls going on as we speak. Pre-fab, lift into place
concrete panels. Looks a lot like an octaconal Home Depot going up <grin>.

Well there's something I didn't notice - it's an all-steel roof. No fabric. Probably cheaper, lower
maintenance. The lighting during riding hours will be interesting. If they need to run the lights
whenever they ride, the bills just went up.

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While the site is protected from rain, the infield and track support pours can be started. Once
the floor is cured, they can start bringing in the 499 or so pre-fab wood trusses to erect the
frame. That has to be complete before the Siberian Pine stick-wood surface can go on.

If you look at www.velodomes.com & www.velodrome.com, you'll see the walls are mostly up, they've
poured the floors and the wood for the track surface and structure is at the kiln drying stage.

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In article <[email hidden]>,

(Mike Gladu) said:

In article said:

Translucent fabric over steel roof is up, walls going on as we speak. Pre-fab, lift into place
concrete panels. Looks a lot like an octaconal Home Depot going up <grin>.

Well there's something I didn't notice - it's an all-steel roof. No fabric. Probably cheaper,
lower maintenance. The lighting during riding hours will be interesting. If they need to run the
lights whenever they ride, the bills just went up.

On the other hand, fabric roofs need periodic replacement. The relatively young Burnaby Velodrome
just got a new roof last Winter.

Steel roofing tends to be eponymously strong, and usually lasts the life of the building.

So, this will be only the second indoor velodrome on the continent when it goes up!
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Ryan Cousineau wrote: (snip)

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So, this will be only the second indoor velodrome on the continent when it goes up!

I wonder if there is another indoor velodrome anywhere in the world which has been built in a better
climatic area for outdoor cycling?!

There actually IS a reason, though. The Anschutz Entertainment Group is trying to attract world
class cycling events (as well as get maximum use from all the facilities it is building at the Home
Depot Sport Center), and the UCI is trying to move Track Cycling to be a winter sport, with
championships in late winter / early spring.

The fellow who talked to us at a dinner in November said they have an ice rink that is used by the
LA Kings. Apparently the director of that facility called him, saying she was "having a little
trouble finding users for the 2 - 4 time slot". He questioned why there wouldn't be kids coming
after school or something, only to find out she meant 2 - 4 AM - the other 22 hours were pretty well
filled every day.

Can you imagine a velodrome with riders there even for 8 hours every day? Well, we get a chance to
see what will happen, and pretty soon, too.

"Colin Campbell" <[email hidden]_remove_this> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Ryan Cousineau wrote: (snip)

Quoted message said:

So, this will be only the second indoor velodrome on the continent when it goes up!

I wonder if there is another indoor velodrome anywhere in the world which has been built in a
better climatic area for outdoor cycling?!

There actually IS a reason, though. The Anschutz Entertainment Group is trying to attract world
class cycling events (as well as get maximum use from all the facilities it is building at the
Home Depot Sport Center), and the UCI is trying to move Track Cycling to be a winter sport, with
championships in late winter / early spring.

The fellow who talked to us at a dinner in November said they have an ice rink that is used by the
LA Kings. Apparently the director of that facility called him, saying she was "having a little
trouble finding users for the 2 - 4 time slot". He questioned why there wouldn't be kids coming
after school or something, only to find out she meant 2 - 4 AM - the other 22 hours were pretty
well filled every day.

Can you imagine a velodrome with riders there even for 8 hours every day? Well, we get a chance to
see what will happen, and pretty soon, too.

Yes I can...Dominguez till it closed. We trained there 2-4 times a week with two of those days
spending about 6 hours there. It will be intersesting to see what kind of access the general public
to the new track. You keep bringing up an ice rink in Culver City that the Kings use, what on earth
does that have to co with cycling? Two different sports, hockey and for that matter ice skating in
general appeals to a much bigger audience than cycling.

Dave

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"Colin Campbell" <[email hidden]_remove_this> wrote in message

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

The fellow who talked to us at a dinner in November said they have an ice rink that is used by
the LA Kings. Apparently the director of that facility called him, saying she was "having a
little trouble finding users for the 2 - 4 time slot". He questioned why there wouldn't be kids
coming after school or something, only to find out she meant 2 - 4 AM - the other 22 hours were
pretty well filled every day.

Can you imagine a velodrome with riders there even for 8 hours every day? Well, we get a chance
to see what will happen, and pretty soon, too.

Yes I can...Dominguez till it closed. We trained there 2-4 times a week with two of those days
spending about 6 hours there. It will be intersesting to see what kind of access the general
public to the new track. You keep bringing up an ice rink in Culver City that the Kings use, what
on earth does that have to co with cycling? Two different sports, hockey and for that matter ice
skating in general appeals to a much bigger audience than cycling.

I think what you meant to say was that while there are more people cycling than skating there are
very few places to skate on ice while there are many places to go ride a bike.

-WG

"Dave" <[email hidden]> wrote: "Two different sports, hockey and for that matter ice skating
in general appeals to a much bigger audience than cycling."

This statement might be true if by audience you mean spectators and not participants, at least in
the US. The participant audience for cycling far outweighs the participant audience for ice skating.
It only seems the other way around because ice skating is venue centered. If most skating was done
by taking your skates out of the garage and skating down the street it would seem much different.
Most cycling participants are not racers, of course. As a sport in the US cycling is really more
like football or baseball with an inferiority complex.

I really think that most bike racing fails to have a spectator audience because we as race
organizers fail to produce the product that will interest spectators. Most bike races are flat
boring unless you are a participant. In fact, many races are pretty user unfriendly even for
participants. This doesn't mean that you can't put on races that will attract spectators. There are
several examples. Most races however, don't even make the slightest nod towards trying to make the
events spectator friendly.
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Mike Murray

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Mike Murray said:

"Dave" <[email hidden]> wrote: "Two different sports, hockey and for that matter ice
skating in general appeals to a much bigger audience than cycling."

This statement might be true if by audience you mean spectators and not participants, at least in
the US. The participant audience for cycling far outweighs the participant audience for ice
skating. It only seems the other way around because ice skating is venue centered. If most skating
was done by taking your skates out of the garage and skating down the street it would seem much
different. Most cycling participants are not racers, of course. As a sport in the US cycling is
really more like football or baseball with an inferiority complex.

I really think that most bike racing fails to have a spectator audience because we as race
organizers fail to produce the product that will interest spectators. Most bike races are flat
boring unless you are a participant. In fact, many races are pretty user unfriendly even for
participants. This doesn't mean that you can't put on races that will attract spectators. There
are several examples. Most races however, don't even make the slightest nod towards trying to make
the events spectator friendly.

You may have something. After a 10-year hiatus, they put a criterium race in downtown Vancouver
again (Gastown, the tony touristy "Olde Towne" bit). The result was two consecutive years of
20,000ish spectators. Not bad at all.

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