Example of Harm Caused By Anti-Amalgam Liars

True it does not help everyone but amalgam removal, starting a seafood diet, chelation, and nutrient
supplementation saved my life.

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Here's an example of the sort of harm caused by those
who propagate myths about amalgam's alleged harmful
effects:

Just as you should not blindly follow anti-amalgam propenents I believe you should not follow pro-
amalgamists. Do the research and decide for yourself. My eyes have been opened in the last year or
so. ncbi.nlm.nih.govquery.fcgiOpen ↗
uids=12018634&dopt=Abstract

1: J Nephrol. 2002 Mar-Apr;15(2):171-6. Related Articles, Links

Mercury in dental restoration: is there a risk of nephrotoxicity?

Mortada WL, Sobh MA, El-Defrawy MM, Farahat SE.

Urology and Nephrology Center, Mansoura University, Faculty of Science, Egypt.

BACKGROUND: Concern has been voiced about exposure to mercury (Hg) from dental amalgam fillings, and
there is a need to assess whether this leads to signs of nephrotoxicity. METHODS: A total of 101
healthy adults (80 males and 21 females) were included in this study. The population as grouped into
those having amalgam fillings (39 males and 10 females) and those without (41 males and 11 females).
Hg was determined in blood, urine, hair and nails to assess exposure. Urinary excretion of beta2-
microglobulin (beta2M), N-acetyl-beta-D-glucosaminidase (NAG), gamma-glutamyltransferase (gammaGT)
and alkaline phosphatase (ALP) were determined as markers of tubular damage. Albuminuria was assayed
as an early indicator of glomerular dysfunction. Serum creatinine, beta2M and blood urea nitrogen
(BUN) were determined to assess glomerular filtration. RESULTS: Hg levels in blood and urine were
significantly higher in persons with dental amalgam than those without; in the dental amalgam group,
blood and urine levels of Hg significantly correlated with the number of amalgams. Urinary excretion
of NAG, gammaGT and albumin was significantly higher in persons with dental amalgam than those
without. In the amalgam group, urinary excretion of NAG and albumin significantly correlated with
the number of fillings. Albuminuria significantly correlated with blood and urine Hg. CONCLUSION:
From the nephrotoxicity point of view, dental amalgam is an unsuitable filling material, as it may
give rise to Hg toxicity. Hg levels in blood and urine are good markers of such toxicity. In these
exposure conditions, renal damage is possible and may be assessed by urinary excretions of albumin,
NAG, and gamma-GT.

Chuck

ChuckMSRD said:

Just as you should not blindly follow anti-amalgam propenents I believe you should not follow pro-
amalgamists. Do the research and decide for yourself.

I have. Here's an example:

J Oral Rehabil 2002 Aug;29(8):705-713 Multidisciplinary examination of patients with illness
attributed to dental fillings.

Langworth S, Bjorkman L, Elinder CG, Jarup L, Savlin P. Department of Public Health Sciences,
Division of Occupational Medicine, Karolinska Hospital and Karolinska Institutet, Stockholm, Sweden,
Department of Odontology, Karolinska Institutet, Stockholm, Sweden, and National Registry of Adverse
Reactions to Dental Materials, Bergen, Norway, Department of Renal Medicine, Huddinge University
Hospital and Karolinska Institutet, Huddinge, Sweden, Department of Epidemiology and Public Health,
Imperial College School of Medicine, London, UK, and Institute of Environmental Medicine, Karolinska
Institutet, Stockholm, Sweden, and Department of Environmental Health, Stockholm County Council,
Norrbacka, Stockholm, Sweden.

Objective and methods. In 1993, a special Amalgam Clinic was established at Huddinge University
Hospital. Residents in the Stockholm County area with morbidity attributed to dental fillings
('amalgam disease'😉, were referred to this clinic. Patients were examined by a dentist (n 428), a
physician (n 379), and a psychologist (n 360). Sixty-nine per cent were women and 31% men; the mean
patient age was 46 years.

Results. Oral symptoms included tender or aching teeth (60%), metallic taste (54%), sore mouth (43%)
and dry mouth (43%). Signs of moderate or severe temporomandibular joint dysfunction were found in
81 cases, glossitis in 30 and oral lichen in 26 cases. Common general symptoms included diffuse pain
(78%), general weakness (75%), extreme fatigue (68%) and dizziness (68%). Seven per cent of the
patients suffered from previously undiagnosed medical conditions (thyroid dysfunction, anaemia,
cardiopathy, renal disease, cancer). In 26 subjects, skin patch testing revealed allergy to mercury,
gold or palladium. The median concentration of mercury was 10 nmol L-1 in whole blood, 3 nmol L-1 in
plasma and 10 nmol L-1 in urine, i.e. normal levels. Earlier mental trauma was common, and in the
psychological questionnaire SCL-90, clear tendencies to somatization were found. Only a few cases of
severe psychiatric illness were observed. No positive correlation was found between the amount of
amalgam and somatic symptoms or psychological effect parameters.

Conclusions. The results do not support the hypothesis that release of mercury from amalgam fillings
is the cause of amalgam disease', but suggest that there may be various explanations for the
patient's complaints.

ChuckMSRD said:

Just as you should not blindly follow anti-amalgam propenents I believe you should not follow pro-
amalgamists. Do the research and decide for yourself.

I have. Here's another example:

Psychother Psychosom 2002 Jul-Aug;71(4):223-32 Psychological, allergic, and toxicological aspects of
patients with amalgam-related complaints. Gottwald B, Kupfer J, Traenckner I, Ganss C, Gieler U.
Department of Medical Psychology, University of Giessen, Germany.

Background: To deepen the understanding of the numerous unspecific complaints which are related to
the dental material amalgam both in patients and physicians, an interdisciplinary case-control study
regarding toxicological, allergic, psychological and psychiatric aspects was conducted. Forty
patients with amalgam-associated complaints were compared to a well-matched group of 40 amalgam
bearers without complaints.

Methods: Patients and controls underwent a dental examination, which included recording of the
quantity, surface area and quality of amalgam fillings, a determination of the mercury load in blood
and urine, an allergy examination including patch testing with amalgam and a psychometric assessment
with questionnaires noting coping strategies (ABI-UMW-P), interpersonal problems (Inventory of
Interpersonal Problems) and self-consciousness (SAM), the NEO Five-Factor Inventory, Symptom Checklist-90-
R, Beck Depression Inventory and a screening instrument for somatoform disorders.

Results: Patients and controls did not differ with respect to mercury concentrations in body fluids.
Only 1 patient was found to have a positive amalgam patch test; various other allergies could be
determined in 28% of patients (n = 11). Patients had higher levels of psychic distress, a higher
incidence of depression and somatization disorders as well as different styles of coping with
anxiety compared to controls.

Conclusions: No indication for mercury intoxication or amalgam allergy as a cause of the patients'
complaints could be found. The theory of amalgam-related complaints as an expression of underlying
psychic problems is supported. Treatment should focus on somatization and changing coping and
attribution styles.

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Subject: Re: Example of Harm Caused By Anti-Amalgam Liars
From: [email hidden] (ChuckMSRD)
Date: 12/25/2003 5:33 AM Central Standard Time
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Quoted message said:

Here's an example of the sort of harm caused by those who propagate myths about amalgam's alleged
harmful effects:

This must have been posted by Mark Thorson. He has posted it before and it has been discussed. The
part Mark overlooks is this:

The other problem is they talked me into having all 4 quadrants of my teeth done the same week - in
4 consecutive days. Thiswas probably the biggest mistake we made.

Furthermore ther reason Mark repeatedly post this is because he had to make a retraction for saying
things and lying about cell tech.. I called his hand. He is also a lackey for Barrett.

Quoted message said:

Just as you should not blindly follow anti-amalgam propenents I believe you should not follow pro-
amalgamists. Do the research and decide for yourself. My eyes have been opened in the last year or
so. ncbi.nlm.nih.govquery.fcgiOpen ↗
uids=12018634&dopt=Abstract

1: J Nephrol. 2002 Mar-Apr;15(2):171-6. Related Articles, Links

Mercury in dental restoration: is there a risk of nephrotoxicity?

Mortada WL, Sobh MA, El-Defrawy MM, Farahat SE.

Urology and Nephrology Center, Mansoura University, Faculty of Science, Egypt.

BACKGROUND: Concern has been voiced about exposure to mercury (Hg) from dental amalgam fillings,
and there is a need to assess whether this leads to signs of nephrotoxicity. METHODS: A total of
101 healthy adults (80 males and 21 females) were included in this study. The population as grouped
into those having amalgam fillings (39 males and 10 females) and those without (41 males and 11
females). Hg was determined in blood, urine, hair and nails to assess exposure. Urinary excretion
of beta2-microglobulin (beta2M), N-acetyl-beta-D-glucosaminidase (NAG), gamma-glutamyltransferase
(gammaGT) and alkaline phosphatase (ALP) were determined as markers of tubular damage. Albuminuria
was assayed as an early indicator of glomerular dysfunction. Serum creatinine, beta2M and blood
urea nitrogen (BUN) were determined to assess glomerular filtration. RESULTS: Hg levels in blood
and urine were significantly higher in persons with dental amalgam than those without; in the
dental amalgam group, blood and urine levels of Hg significantly correlated with the number of
amalgams. Urinary excretion of NAG, gammaGT and albumin was significantly higher in persons with
dental amalgam than those without. In the amalgam group, urinary excretion of NAG and albumin
significantly correlated with the number of fillings. Albuminuria significantly correlated with
blood and urine Hg. CONCLUSION: From the nephrotoxicity point of view, dental amalgam is an
unsuitable filling material, as it may give rise to Hg toxicity. Hg levels in blood and urine are
good markers of such toxicity. In these exposure conditions, renal damage is possible and may be
assessed by urinary excretions of albumin, NAG, and gamma-GT.

Chuck

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1: Stomatologiia (Mosk) 1997;76(4):9-11 Related Articles, Books [Patterns of mercury release
from amalgam fillings into the oral cavity].[Article in Russian]Motorkina AV, Barer GM,
Volozhin AI.

Seventy-five subjects aged 20 to 57 with 1 to 15 fillings of silver amalgam were examined. The level
of mercury vapors in the oral cavity was assessedusing an AGP-01 device and the method developed by
the authors. Emission of mercury vapors in the oral cavity increased with the number of fillings.
The concentration of mercury in the oral cavity depends largely on the number ofsilver amalgam
fillings and less so on these fillings' length of service.Adv Dent Res 1992 Sep;6:110-3

Related Articles, Books, LinkOut Side-effects: mercury contribution to body burden from dental
amalgam.Reinhardt JW.Department of Operative Dentistry, University of Iowa College of Dentistry,Iowa
City 52242.

The purpose of this paper is to examine and report on studies that relate mercury levels in human
tissues to the presence of dental amalgams, giving special attention to autopsy studies. Until
recently, there have been few published studies examining the relationship between dental amalgams
and tissue mercury levels. Improved and highly sensitive tissue analysis techniques have made it
possible to measure elements in the concentration range of parts per billion. The fact that mercury
can be absorbed and reach toxic levels in humantissues makes any and all exposure to that element of
scientific interest.

Dental amalgams have long been believed to be of little significance as contributors to the overall
body burden of mercury, because the elemental form of mercury is rapidly consumed in the setting
reaction of the restoration.Studies showing measurable elemental mercury vapor release from dental
amalgams have raised renewed concern about amalgam safety.

Mercury vapor absorption occurs through the lungs, with about 80% of the inhaled vapor being
absorbed by the lungs and rapidly entering the bloodstream. Following distribution by blood
circulation, mercury can enter and remain in certain tissues for longer periods of time, since the
half-life of excretion is prolonged. Two of the primary arget organs of concern are the central
nervous system and kidneys.

Publication Types: Review Review, Tutorial PMID: 1292449 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] 1: FASEB J
1990 Nov;4(14):3256-60 Related Articles, Books, LinkOut

Comment in: FASEB J. 1991 Feb;5(2):236.

Whole-body imaging of the distribution of mercury released from dental fillings into monkey
tissues.Hahn LJ, Kloiber R, Leininger RW, Vimy MJ, Lorscheider FL.Department of Radiology,
University of Calgary, Faculty of Medicine, Alberta,Canada.

The fate of mercury (Hg) released from dental "silver" amalgam tooth fillings into human mouth
air is uncertain. A previous report about sheep revealed uptake routes and distribution of
amalgam Hg among body tissues. The present investigation demonstrates the bodily distribution of
amalgam Hg in a monkey whose dentition, diet, feeding regimen, and chewing pattern closely
resemble those of humans.

When amalgam fillings, which normally contain 50% Hg, are made with a tracer of radioactive 203Hg
and then placed into monkey teeth, the isotope appears in high concentration in various organs and
tissues within 4wk. Whole-body images of the monkey revealed that the highest levels of Hg werel
ocated in the kidney, gastrointestinal tract, and jaw.

****The dental profession's advocacy of silver amalgam as a stable tooth restorative material is not
supported by these findings.****PMID:

2227216 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

2: Neurotoxicology 1983 Fall;4(3):201-4 Related Articles, Books,LinkOut

Mercury toxicity and dental amalgam.Wolff M, Osborne JW, Hanson AL.There is adequate evidence that
dental amalgam restorations, during and after placement, results in the release of Hg into the
patient's body. Whether the Hg released from amalgam is due to placement procedures, surface
abrasion, orl ater corrosion breakdown, there is evidence that a low level Hg release continues
for years.

****It is generally agreed that if amalgam was introduced today as a restorative material, they
would never pass F.D.A. approval.****

With new and more accurate techniques of measuring Hg levels, especially in tissue and blood,
additional studies are necessary to relate blood-Hg levels with dental amalgam restorations. Studies
must relate existing restorations as well as the placement of new restorations to body-Hg levels.

It is possible that we have accepted a potentially dangerous material as being safe.

Publication Types: Historical Article PMID: 6361623

[PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

Jan

Jan the Accuser said:

Furthermore ther reason Mark repeatedly post this is because he had to make a retraction for
saying things and lying about cell tech.. I called his hand. He is also a lackey for Barrett.

I've asked you to post an example of a lie I told about Cell Tech -- and you have consistently
refused to do so.

You continually accuse me of lying. But when asked for an example of one of these lies, you either
ignore the request, or you post something which is NOT an example of something I said which is a
lie. You've posted things which other people have said which are lies, and you've posted things I've
said which are not lies, but you have never posted anything I said which is a lie.

Why don't you do that, Jan?

Is it because you were LYING when you made that accusation against me?

"Jan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Furthermore ther reason Mark repeatedly post this is because he had to

make a

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retraction for saying things and lying about cell tech.. I called his

hand. He

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is also a lackey for Barrett.

I thought you claimed personal attacks were always bad.

I guess you are more equal than others.

In article <[email hidden]>,

ChuckMSRD said:

True it does not help everyone but amalgam removal, starting a seafood diet,

I'm pretty sure that was supposed to be a "seafood-free" diet, which is a rather significant
difference.

Also, I'd be a lot happier with this story if it explained where these extraordinarily high mercury
levels came from in the first place.

Also, if your lifestyle was so healthy, why do you have 22 fillings?

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chelation, and nutrient supplementation saved my life.

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correct. "If I have not seen as far as others, it is because giants were standing on my
shoulders." (Hal Abelson, MIT)

(Jan) said:

You see, Chuck also also had Peripheral Nueropathy.

Isn't that a strange coincidence???

NO!!! He had both MP and PN.

He is now regaining his health.

Where have you heard that before??

From the liar Jan Drew. And now for the TRUTH about Jan's lying in her own words:

Jan lied about having mercury poisoning. For the truth read the following in Jan's OWN WORDS:

Jan lied several times regarding her amalgam history in order to deceive others that she really
had mercury poisoning when what she actually had was a deterioration in her preexisting illness
(peripheral neuropathy) secondary to psychologic factors (worrying obsessively about having
mercury poisoning due to reading about it in Hulda Clark book). She also had a dramatic
improvement due to psychologic factors (relief that the removal of amalgams eliminated the mercury
poisoning).

Now Jan drew ADMITTED in HER OWN WORDS that the reason she went from thinking that she was dying of
mercury poisoning one day and feeling better than she had the next day within hours of having some
amalgams removed was completely due to relief. Now I will allow Jan Drew to tell you her in own
words that her improvement was due to relief:

Here are her exact words posted on June 18th, 1999 to usenet

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I have been reading this thread. I have peripheral neuropathy. I have found a dentist
(alternative) who knows that mercury amalgams are very dangerous. They can cause all manner of
things. He will remove them and put in composities. I have just had 3/4 of mine remover. The
others will come out in a few weeks, along with the one root canal, which will be extracted.

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If an individual has read on this subject and is knowledgable, he will take care of you.

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He has written "Tooth Truth and tells it like it is. He tells how the ADA has covered up this
problem.

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So, it is just a matter of finding the right dentist. He has people flying in from all over to get
the work done.

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I believe the mercury is the cause of my problems. I hav felt better today that I have in the last
2 years, and am looking forward to getting the rest of the mercury out and the root canal pulled.

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Jan

And now the admission that this improvement was due to relief:

Here are her exact words:

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Rich for the LAST time, I said I felt better than I had in two years. That was very true. I had
been very very ill and my health was deteriorating fast. After much reading and research I was
convinced it was my teeth. I wasn't absolutely positivity 100% sure, but it all fit together and I
knew I had to do something. It wasn't easy, what if it didn't work? That was very stressful.

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Finally all the work was done, the metal was out, the bill was paid, I didn't have to sit in the
dentist chairs for hours with a rubber dam in my mouth!!!!!!!!!! Of course I was very relieved. A
big big burden was lifted. That makes one FEEL BETTER.

What's so hard to understand?

All the work was done??? A lie. The work was not completed until weeks later. Jan Drew even posted
that her dental work was not done until July 11, 1999.

And now for more lies. Jan Drew told two egregious lies that were told solely to deceive people into
thinking that she really had mercury poisoning.

The first is on June 26 ,1999 just a week after she had eight amalgams removed. She claimed that ALL
her feet pain went away and she was able to go out line dancing because she was no longer getting a
daily dose of mercury. This is a complete lie and Jan knew it. On June 26, 1999 Jan still had more
amalgams to be removed and they would not be removed until July 11, 1999 by Jan's own admission. You
see Jan has difficulty keeping her lies straight.

But let us have Jan Drew tell us in her own words:

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On 26 Jun 1999, JDrew63929 wrote:

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AF says *** More childish nonsense from poor, sick old Jan.

Well, Jan is doing fine, even went line dancing tonight! Guess that tells you something about
my feet..

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This simply proves that your "neuralgia" is significantly the product of a somatization disorder.
Mercury accumulates in the body, and there is no way having your fillings removed a week or two
back could have instantly eliminated all mercury toxicity effects. It would take months or even
years for the benefits to occur, if the problem really was mercury toxicity. So if pulling your
fillings instantly cured your feet, we have a very solid case here that your "neuralgia" was
psychosomatic.

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You are way off base here. I didn't say I was instantly cured. The detoxing that I have done is a
major factor in my recovery. Yes, I will continue to do it for quite some time to remove the
mercury from my body. I am feeling much better, because I am not receiving a new dose of mercury
each day. The elimination of 8 mercury amalgams has made a difference. Nothing psychosomatic
about it.

Nothing psychosomatic about it?!!?!?!?!?!?!? It was completely psychosomatic. Jan Drew's mercury
level at the time she made this statement was the highest in her life since she had eight amalgams
removed over a two day period only a week before.

The second lie is when she posted to sci.med.dentisty that the reason she knows that it was the
mercury in her mouth that caused her health problems was because she did not *begin* to regain her
health until *after* the mercury level dropped. Not only is this a complete lie and Jan knows it but
the complete opposite is true.

Jan Drew began to regain her health when her mercury level was the highest in her entire life. That
is right. When Jan Drew reported dramatic improvement in her health (ie better than she felt in two
years, and being able to line dance due to all the pain gone) her mercury level had not dropped and
was likely the highest in her life because this improvement occurred from hours to a week after her
amalgams were removed.

The reason that alternative dentists recommend slow removal of amalgams (some as posted by Jan Drew
suggest removing no more than one amalgam every three months) is because the removal of the amalgams
results in vaporization of mercury which even with perfect protocol will result in absorption into
the body of large amounts of mercury.

So on June 18 and 19, 1999 Jan had eight amalgams removed. On June 19, 1999 Jan said she felt better
than she had in two years.

On June 26, 1999 Jan said that she was able to go out line dancing because all her foot pain was
gone. Of course the pain only was gone for a short time because it was likely a placebo effect
due to her RELIEF that the mercury was coming out of her mouth. Just like she felt better than
she did in two years due to relief (by her OWN admission) she was able to go out line dancing a
week later when the absorption of mercury into her tissues from blood likely resulted in the
highest level in her life.

But Jan said that she knows it was the metal in her mouth because she did not BEGIN to regain her
health until AFTER her mercury level dropped. A complete lie and the pathologic liar Jan Drew knows
it. This is why she kill filed me. This is why she lies about me being a liar and a stalker. Jan
Drew knows that I exposed her lies and she refuses to admit it. She is a despicable human being
whose sole purpose in life is to shill for alternative dentists and to perpetuate the lie that she
had mercury poisoning from amalgams. She did not and the proof is in her own words.

Jan Drew will not respond to any of the points in this post. Instead she will pretend she is not
reading them and then personally attack me in order to discredit me. Just watch.

That's a wrap.

Aloha,

Rich
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