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  1. According to the randomized controlled trial

    Thies F, Garry JM, Yaqoob P, Rerkasem K, Williams J, Shearman CP, Gallagher PJ, Calder PC, Grimble
    RF. Association of n-3 polyunsaturated fatty acids with stability of atherosclerotic plaques: a
    randomised controlled trial. Lancet. 2003 Feb 8;361(9356):477-85. PMID: 12583947 [PubMed - indexed
    for MEDLINE]
    <URL:http://www.thelancet.com/journal/vol361/iss9356/full/llan.361.9356.original_research.24538.1> (
    tinyurl.com2sho9 ) <URL:http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMe-
    d&list_uids=12583947&dopt=Abstract> ( tinyurl.com2hjll )

    fish oil supplementation can enhance stability of atherosclerotic plaques.

    Abstract:

    "BACKGROUND: N-3 polyunsaturated fatty acids (PUFAs) from oily fish protect against death from
    cardiovascular disease. We aimed to assess the hypothesis that incorporation of n-3 and n-6
    PUFAs into advanced atherosclerotic plaques increases and decreases plaque stability,
    respectively. METHODS: We did a randomised controlled trial of patients awaiting carotid
    endarterectomy. We randomly allocated patients control, sunflower oil (n-6), or fish-oil (n-3)
    capsules until surgery. Primary outcome was plaque morphology indicative of stability or
    instability, and outcome measures were concentrations of EPA, DHA, and linoleic acid in carotid
    plaques; plaque morphology; and presence of macrophages in plaques. Analysis was per protocol.
    FINDINGS: 188 patients were enrolled and randomised; 18 withdrew and eight were excluded.
    Duration of oil treatment was 7-189 days (median
    42) and did not differ between groups. The proportions of EPA and DHA were higher in carotid
    plaque fractions in patients receiving fish oil compared with those receiving control
    (absolute difference 0.5 [95% CI 0.3-0.7], 0.4 [.1-0.6], and 0.2 [0.1-0.4] g/100 g total
    fatty acids for EPA; and 0.3 [0.0-0.8], 0.4 [0.1-0.7], and 0.3 [0.1-0.6]
    g/100 g total fatty acids for DHA; in plaque phospholipids, cholesteryl esters, and
    triacylglycerols, respectively). Sunflower oil had little effect on the fatty acid composition
    of lipid fractions. Fewer plaques from patients being treated with fish oil had thin fibrous
    caps and signs of inflammation and more plaques had thick fibrous caps and no signs of
    inflammation, compared with plaques in patients in the control and sunflower oil groups (odds
    ratio 0.52 [95% CI 0.24-0.89] and 1.19 [1.02-1.57] vs control; 0.49 [.23-0.90] and 1.16 [1.01-
    1.53] vs sunflower oil). The number of macrophages in plaques from patients receiving fish oil
    was lower than in the other two groups. Carotid plaque morphology and infiltration by
    macrophages did not differ between control and sunflower oil groups. INTERPRETATION:
    Atherosclerotic plaques readily incorporate n-3 PUFAs from fish-oil supplementation, inducing
    changes that can enhance stability of atherosclerotic plaques. By contrast, increased
    consumption of n-6 PUFAs does not affect carotid plaque fatty-acid composition or stability
    over the time course studied here. Stability of plaques could explain reductions in non-fatal
    and fatal cardiovascular events associated with increased n-3 PUFA intake."

    --
    Matti Narkia

  2. "Matti Narkia" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    According to the randomized controlled trial

    Thies F, Garry JM, Yaqoob P, Rerkasem K, Williams J, Shearman CP, Gallagher PJ, Calder PC, Grimble
    RF. Association of n-3 polyunsaturated fatty acids with stability of atherosclerotic plaques: a
    randomised controlled trial. Lancet. 2003 Feb 8;361(9356):477-85. PMID: 12583947 [PubMed - indexed
    for MEDLINE]


    <URL:http://www.thelancet.com/journal/vol361/iss9356/full/llan.361.9356.origin al_research.24538.1>

    Quoted message said:

    ( tinyurl.com2sho9 )


    <URL:http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list
    _uids=12583947&dopt=Abstract>

    Quoted message said:

    ( tinyurl.com2hjll )

    fish oil supplementation can enhance stability of atherosclerotic plaques.

    Abstract:

    "BACKGROUND: N-3 polyunsaturated fatty acids (PUFAs) from oily fish protect against death from
    cardiovascular disease. We aimed to assess the hypothesis that incorporation of n-3 and n-6
    PUFAs into advanced atherosclerotic plaques increases and decreases plaque stability,
    respectively. METHODS: We did a randomised controlled trial of patients awaiting carotid
    endarterectomy. We randomly allocated patients control, sunflower oil (n-6), or fish-oil (n-3)
    capsules until surgery. Primary outcome was plaque morphology indicative of stability or
    instability, and outcome measures were concentrations of EPA, DHA, and linoleic acid in
    carotid plaques; plaque morphology; and presence of macrophages in plaques. Analysis was per
    protocol. FINDINGS: 188 patients were enrolled and randomised; 18 withdrew and eight were
    excluded. Duration of oil treatment was 7-189 days (median
    42) and did not differ between groups. The proportions of EPA and DHA were higher in carotid
    plaque fractions in patients receiving fish oil compared with those receiving control
    (absolute difference 0.5 [95% CI 0.3-0.7], 0.4 [.1-0.6], and 0.2 [0.1-0.4] g/100 g total
    fatty acids for EPA; and 0.3 [0.0-0.8], 0.4 [0.1-0.7], and 0.3 [0.1-0.6]
    g/100 g total fatty acids for DHA; in plaque phospholipids, cholesteryl esters, and
    triacylglycerols, respectively). Sunflower oil had little effect on the fatty acid
    composition of lipid fractions. Fewer plaques from patients being treated with fish oil had
    thin fibrous caps and signs of inflammation and more plaques had thick fibrous caps and no
    signs of inflammation, compared with plaques in patients in the control and sunflower oil
    groups (odds ratio 0.52 [95% CI 0.24-0.89] and 1.19 [1.02-1.57] vs control; 0.49 [.23-0.90]
    and 1.16 [1.01-1.53] vs sunflower oil). The number of macrophages in plaques from patients
    receiving fish oil was lower than in the other two groups. Carotid plaque morphology and
    infiltration by macrophages did not differ between control and sunflower oil groups.
    INTERPRETATION: Atherosclerotic plaques readily incorporate n-3 PUFAs from fish-oil
    supplementation, inducing changes that can enhance stability of atherosclerotic plaques. By
    contrast, increased consumption of n-6 PUFAs does not affect carotid plaque fatty-acid
    composition or stability over the time course studied here. Stability of plaques could
    explain reductions in non-fatal and fatal cardiovascular events associated with increased
    n-3 PUFA intake."

    --
    Matti Narkia

    Thanks. This helps explains why fish oil is of benefit. I take 2 capsules a day to help control my
    CAD. Eating enough of the right fish directly would be a challenge - at least for me. The one I like
    the most - tuna - also has mercury risks.

    Bill

  3. Thanks Matti!

    --
    "Fetching internet news from usenet for you to read at your leisure" SonoScore :: Winning against
    heart attack and stroke sonoscore.comsonoscore.com

  4. Matti Narkia <[email hidden]> wrote in part:

    [from the abstract:]

    Quoted message said:

    We randomly allocated patients control, sunflower oil (n-6), or fish-oil (n-3) capsules
    until surgery.

    Anyone have access to the full text? How much oil was used?
    --
    Jim Chinnis Warrenton, Virginia, USA

  5. Wed, 31 Dec 2003 14:03:25 +0200 in article
    <[email hidden]> Matti Narkia

    Quoted message said:

    According to the randomized controlled trial

    Thies F, Garry JM, Yaqoob P, Rerkasem K, Williams J, Shearman CP, Gallagher PJ, Calder PC, Grimble
    RF. Association of n-3 polyunsaturated fatty acids with stability of atherosclerotic plaques: a
    randomised controlled trial. Lancet. 2003 Feb 8;361(9356):477-85. PMID: 12583947 [PubMed - indexed
    for MEDLINE]
    <URL:http://www.thelancet.com/journal/vol361/iss9356/full/llan.361.9356.original_research.24538.1>
    ( tinyurl.com2sho9 ) <URL:http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=Pu-
    bMed&list_uids=12583947&dopt=Abstract> ( tinyurl.com2hjll )

    fish oil supplementation can enhance stability of atherosclerotic plaques.


    Comments in

    Walling A Fish Oil Stabilizes Atherosclerotic Plaques. American Family Physician, August 15, 2003
    <URL:http://www.aafp.org/afp/20030815/tips/7.html>

    PUFAs and atherosclerotic plaques. (Clinical Briefs). April, 2003
    <URL:http://www.findarticles.com/cf_dls/m0KGG/4_6/99983424/p1/article.jhtml>

    --
    Matti Narkia

  6. Yea, but it sure does cause a lot of leg swelling.

    Matti Narkia said:

    According to the randomized controlled trial

    Thies F, Garry JM, Yaqoob P, Rerkasem K, Williams J, Shearman CP, Gallagher PJ, Calder PC, Grimble
    RF. Association of n-3 polyunsaturated fatty acids with stability of atherosclerotic plaques: a
    randomised controlled trial. Lancet. 2003 Feb 8;361(9356):477-85. PMID: 12583947 [PubMed - indexed
    for MEDLINE] <URL:http://www.thelancet.com/journal/vol361/iss9356/full/llan.361.9356.original_res-
    earch.24538.1> ( tinyurl.com2sho9 ) <URL:http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cm-
    d=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=12583947&dopt=Abstract> ( tinyurl.com2hjll )

    fish oil supplementation can enhance stability of atherosclerotic plaques.

    Abstract:

    "BACKGROUND: N-3 polyunsaturated fatty acids (PUFAs) from oily fish protect against death from
    cardiovascular disease. We aimed to assess the hypothesis that incorporation of n-3 and n-6
    PUFAs into advanced atherosclerotic plaques increases and decreases plaque stability,
    respectively. METHODS: We did a randomised controlled trial of patients awaiting carotid
    endarterectomy. We randomly allocated patients control, sunflower oil (n-6), or fish-oil (n-3)
    capsules until surgery. Primary outcome was plaque morphology indicative of stability or
    instability, and outcome measures were concentrations of EPA, DHA, and linoleic acid in
    carotid plaques; plaque morphology; and presence of macrophages in plaques. Analysis was per
    protocol. FINDINGS: 188 patients were enrolled and randomised; 18 withdrew and eight were
    excluded. Duration of oil treatment was 7-189 days (median
    42) and did not differ between groups. The proportions of EPA and DHA were higher in carotid
    plaque fractions in patients receiving fish oil compared with those receiving control
    (absolute difference 0.5 [95% CI 0.3-0.7], 0.4 [.1-0.6], and 0.2 [0.1-0.4] g/100 g total
    fatty acids for EPA; and 0.3 [0.0-0.8], 0.4 [0.1-0.7], and 0.3 [0.1-0.6]
    g/100 g total fatty acids for DHA; in plaque phospholipids, cholesteryl esters, and
    triacylglycerols, respectively). Sunflower oil had little effect on the fatty acid
    composition of lipid fractions. Fewer plaques from patients being treated with fish oil had
    thin fibrous caps and signs of inflammation and more plaques had thick fibrous caps and no
    signs of inflammation, compared with plaques in patients in the control and sunflower oil
    groups (odds ratio 0.52 [95% CI 0.24-0.89] and 1.19 [1.02-1.57] vs control; 0.49 [.23-0.90]
    and 1.16 [1.01-1.53] vs sunflower oil). The number of macrophages in plaques from patients
    receiving fish oil was lower than in the other two groups. Carotid plaque morphology and
    infiltration by macrophages did not differ between control and sunflower oil groups.
    INTERPRETATION: Atherosclerotic plaques readily incorporate n-3 PUFAs from fish-oil
    supplementation, inducing changes that can enhance stability of atherosclerotic plaques. By
    contrast, increased consumption of n-6 PUFAs does not affect carotid plaque fatty-acid
    composition or stability over the time course studied here. Stability of plaques could
    explain reductions in non-fatal and fatal cardiovascular events associated with increased
    n-3 PUFA intake."

    --
    Matti Narkia

  7. Wed, 31 Dec 2003 15:54:25 GMT in article
    <[email hidden]> Jim Chinnis

    Quoted message said:

    Matti Narkia <[email hidden]> wrote in part:

    [from the abstract:]

    Quoted message said:

    We randomly allocated patients control, sunflower oil (n-6), or fish-oil (n-3) capsules until
    surgery.

    Anyone have access to the full text? How much oil was used?

    I provided the link for the full text, see my post. The amount of long-chain omega-3 PUFAs (EPA+DHA)
    was 1.4 g/day.

    --
    Matti Narkia

  8. What a great study! Thanks again Matti.

    Both archived in *.pdf format on our website.

    btw, Ann Walling, M.D. was one of my professors in residency.

    Matti Narkia said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><URL:http://www.thelancet.com/journal/vol361/iss9356/full/llan.361.9356-
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.original_research.24538.1>


    ( tinyurl.com2sho9 )

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><URL:http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retriev-
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>e&db=PubMed&list_uids=12583947&dopt=Abstract>


    ( tinyurl.com2hjll )

    fish oil supplementation can enhance stability of atherosclerotic plaques.


    Comments in

    Walling A Fish Oil Stabilizes Atherosclerotic Plaques. American Family Physician, August 15, 2003
    <URL:http://www.aafp.org/afp/20030815/tips/7.html>

    PUFAs and atherosclerotic plaques. (Clinical Briefs). April, 2003
    <URL:http://www.findarticles.com/cf_dls/m0KGG/4_6/99983424/p1/article.jhtml>

    --
    Matti Narkia

    Patrick Blanchard, M.D. Board Certified in Family Medicine

    SonoScore Winning against heart attack and stroke sonoscore.comsonoscore.com

  9. Matti Narkia <[email hidden]> wrote in part:

    Quoted message said:

    Wed, 31 Dec 2003 15:54:25 GMT in article <[email hidden]> Jim Chinnis

    Quoted message said:

    Matti Narkia <[email hidden]> wrote in part:

    [from the abstract:]

    Quoted message said:

    We randomly allocated patients control, sunflower oil (n-6), or fish-oil (n-3) capsules until
    surgery.

    Anyone have access to the full text? How much oil was used?

    I provided the link for the full text, see my post. The amount of long-chain omega-3 PUFAs
    (EPA+DHA) was 1.4 g/day.

    Thanks. (I tried the link, but couldn't get it to work.)

    1.4g/day of long-chain n-3 is not quite five typical 1g fish oil capsules, for those who
    may not know.
    --
    Jim Chinnis Warrenton, Virginia, USA

  10. Wed, 31 Dec 2003 16:08:39 GMT in article
    <[email hidden]> Jim Chinnis

    Quoted message said:

    Matti Narkia <[email hidden]> wrote in part:

    Quoted message said:

    Wed, 31 Dec 2003 15:54:25 GMT in article <[email hidden]> Jim Chinnis

    Quoted message said:

    Matti Narkia <[email hidden]> wrote in part:

    [from the abstract:]
    >We randomly allocated patients control, sunflower oil (n-6), or fish-oil (n-3) capsules until
    >surgery.

    Anyone have access to the full text? How much oil was used?

    I provided the link for the full text, see my post. The amount of long-chain omega-3 PUFAs
    (EPA+DHA) was 1.4 g/day.

    Thanks. (I tried the link, but couldn't get it to work.)


    These links work for me:

    <URL:http://www.thelancet.com/journal/vol361/iss9356/full/llan.361.9356.original_research.24538.1> (
    tinyurl.com2sho9 )

    You may have to register at The Lancet's site if you haven't done it before.

    --
    Matti Narkia

  11. Aside from Bistoury's seemingly rare reaction why isn't fish oil, especially in larger quantities,
    universally recommended? Those in the general public that seem to know something of the benefits of
    fish oil generally consume a capsule a day. Is the use of fish oil highly accepted by Cardiologists
    IYE or is that the reason for seemingly continual studies?

    Kevin

  12. Wed, 31 Dec 2003 21:50:48 GMT in article
    <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    Yea, but it sure does cause a lot of leg swelling.


    Not for me.

    --
    Matti Narkia

  13. I have not heard nor seen this side effect from fish oil!

    Will you explain your problem a bit more?

    --
    Patrick Blanchard, M.D. Board Certified in Family Medicine

    SonoScore Winning against heart attack and stroke sonoscore.comsonoscore.com

  14. kahout said:


    Aside from Bistoury's seemingly rare reaction why isn't fish oil, especially in larger quantities,
    universally recommended?

    The omega-3 fatty acids in fish oil is nearly universally regarded as a good thing. However, even a
    good thing in excess may become a bad thing.

    Quoted message said:

    Those in the general public that seem to know something of the benefits of fish oil generally
    consume a capsule a day. Is the use of fish oil highly accepted by Cardiologists IYE or is that
    the reason for seemingly continual studies?

    That's science. We would be arrogant to presume we know all there is to know about omega-3 fatty
    acids already.

    Have a blessed 2004 :-)

    Humbly,

    Andrew

    --
    Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
    Board-certified Cardiologist
    http:/www.heartmdphd.com/

  15. Omega-3 Blood Testing Will Help Guide Supplementation Strategy.

    Registered users on our site can download the article.

    kahout said:

    Aside from Bistoury's seemingly rare reaction why isn't fish oil, especially in larger quantities,
    universally recommended? Those in the general public that seem to know something of the benefits
    of fish oil generally consume a capsule a day. Is the use of fish oil highly accepted by
    Cardiologists IYE or is that the reason for seemingly continual studies?

    Kevin

    I tend to recommend anywhere from 2 caps am and pm up to 5 caps am and pm, depending upon their
    level of atherosclerosis.

    --
    Patrick Blanchard, M.D. Board Certified in Family Medicine

    SonoScore Winning against heart attack and stroke sonoscore.comsonoscore.com

  16. "kahout" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Aside from Bistoury's seemingly rare reaction why isn't fish oil, especially in larger quantities,
    universally recommended? Those in the general public that seem to know something of the benefits
    of fish oil generally consume a capsule a day. Is the use of fish oil highly accepted by
    Cardiologists IYE or is that the reason for seemingly continual studies?

    Kevin

    My Cardiologist recommends it.

    I think a lot of it may come down to $s - in the US anyway. There are no pharma reps. going around
    pushing it, no TV advertisements etc. Also a Dr. will typically not write a prescription for it and
    even if he or she did it may not be included in the formulary for a particular patient. So it may
    cost the patient a bit more and it may not be viewed as a "serious" drug such as those that need
    prescriptions.

    However in the long run it will probably save both the govt. and business money. I think niacin is
    another drug in the same category - though a bit different since it has side effects and
    competitors.

    Bill

  17. When I consume any fish oil product at 1000mg my legs swell mostly from the mid front down through
    the ankle and into the toes. My cardiologist verified that fish oils to have this side effect. It is
    very uncomfortable and then I must take 200mg. of Bumex and Spironolactone 50mg 4 times per day and
    all that does is leaves me so weak I can hardly get about without an afternoon nap. Matt

    Patrick Blanchard M.D.

    Quoted message said:

    I have not heard nor seen this side effect from fish oil!

    Will you explain your problem a bit more?

  18. Patrick Blanchard M.D.

    Quoted message said:


    Omega-3 Blood Testing Will Help Guide Supplementation Strategy.

    Registered users on our site can download the article.

    Why not post the link here?

    May you have a blessed 2004 :-)

    Humbly,

    Andrew

    --
    Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
    Board-certified Cardiologist
    http:/www.heartmdphd.com/

  19. Bill said:

    "kahout" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Aside from Bistoury's seemingly rare reaction why isn't fish oil, especially in larger quantities,
    universally recommended? Those in the general public that seem to know something of the benefits
    of fish oil generally consume a capsule a day. Is the use of fish oil highly accepted by
    Cardiologists IYE or is that the reason for seemingly continual studies?

    Kevin

    My Cardiologist recommends it.

    Mine, too. 4 per day. I do 2 in the morning and 2 at night.

    He said that 5 or 6 daily would be good, but as I have approx. 5-ounce portions of oily fish
    (salmon, tuna, mackerel, bluefish, etc.) a few times a week, my normal diet makes up the difference.

    Pastorio

    Quoted message said:

    I think a lot of it may come down to $s - in the US anyway. There are no pharma reps. going around
    pushing it, no TV advertisements etc. Also a Dr. will typically not write a prescription for it
    and even if he or she did it may not be included in the formulary for a particular patient. So it
    may cost the patient a bit more and it may not be viewed as a "serious" drug such as those that
    need prescriptions.

    However in the long run it will probably save both the govt. and business money. I think niacin is
    another drug in the same category - though a bit different since it has side effects and
    competitors.

    Bill

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