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No need for farmed animals. (more logic of the larder) Attn. Jonathan Ball

Ipse Dixit · 2004-01-12T10:38:36+00:00

"Dutch" wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]... "ipse dixit" wrote in message -"]news:[email hidden]- berlin.de... "Dutch" wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]... "ipse dixit" wrote in message -"]news:[email hidden]- berlin.de... > "Dutch" wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]... > > "ipse dixit" wrote the same old [censored] > > > > > Your snipping and running from threads you've lost out on is a joke, Ditch. The original > claim was that only Harrison believed a short life as a farm animal was better than no life > at all. And below this line is Jon's statement proving just that. "There is exactly one person you've ever read in these newsgroups who believes the "animals getting to experience life" crapola, and EVERY omnivore issue with him has told him his "theory" is [censored]." Jonathan Ball 2003-06-25 And the subsequent posting of your alter ego "Benefez" does not contradict that. Jon's claim was and is certainly a lie. > "There is exactly one person you've ever read in these newsgroups who believes the "animals > getting to experience life" crapola One person *** you've ever read in these newsgroups***. knew that, which is why you snipped Jon's quote away. Learn to accept your defeats. That's a hard lesson to learn It's a lesson you MUST learn. Here's the evidence of Polly's belief which you snipped away in your embarrassment. "No. Before you got here, there was one other person, also a lying moron, who claimed to believe that animals' "getting to experience life" was something that *ought* to happen, because she saw it as a good thing in and of itself. Her name was Polly. She was very good buddies with senile Aunt Bea. She at least admitted to being a boutique farmer, although not in so many words. But Polly believed it before she got here; Jonathan Ball 2001-10-31 tch tch tch

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Ipse Dixit
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12 January 2004, 10:38 UTC #1

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> Your snipping and running from threads you've lost out on is a joke, Ditch. The original
> claim was that only Harrison believed a short life as a farm animal was better than no life
> at all.

And below this line is Jon's statement proving just that.
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"There is exactly one person you've ever read in these newsgroups who believes the "animals
getting to experience life" crapola, and EVERY omnivore
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issue with him has told him his "theory" is [censored]." Jonathan Ball 2003-06-25
And the subsequent posting of your alter ego "Benefez" does not contradict that.
Jon's claim was and is certainly a lie.
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> "There is exactly one person you've ever read in these newsgroups who believes the "animals
> getting to experience life" crapola
One person *** you've ever read in these newsgroups***.

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knew that, which is why you snipped Jon's quote away. Learn to accept your defeats.
That's a hard lesson to learn
It's a lesson you MUST learn. Here's the evidence of Polly's belief which you snipped away in your
embarrassment.
"No. Before you got here, there was one other person, also a lying moron, who claimed to believe
that animals' "getting to experience life" was something that *ought* to happen, because she saw it
as a good thing in and of itself. Her name was Polly. She was very good buddies with senile Aunt
Bea. She at least admitted to being a boutique farmer, although not in so many words. But Polly
believed it before she got here;
Jonathan Ball 2001-10-31 tch tch tch

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Dutch
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12 January 2004, 10:41 UTC #2

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"There is exactly one person you've ever read in these newsgroups who believes the "animals
getting to experience life" crapola, and EVERY omnivore
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issue with him has told him his "theory" is [censored]." Jonathan Ball 2003-06-25
And the subsequent posting of your alter ego "Benefez" does not contradict that.
Your contention was that your alter ego "Benefez" contradicted a statement made *before* you
invented him.
Your claim was that most "meatarians" subscribe to "the logic of the larder".
Like all your claims, both are obviously false.

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12 January 2004, 10:43 UTC #3

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> > > claim was that only Harrison believed a short life as a farm animal was better than no
> > > life at all.
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> "There is exactly one person you've ever read in these newsgroups who believes the "animals
> getting to experience life" crapola, and EVERY omnivore
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> issue with him has told him his "theory" is [censored]." Jonathan Ball 2003-06-25
And the subsequent posting of your alter ego "Benefez" does not contradict that.
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Your contention was that your alter ego "Benefez" contradicted a statement made *before* you
invented him.

I'm not Benefez, but if it eases your embarrassment to believe I am, then go ahead and continue
deluding yourself. Deluding yourself makes you feel comfortable, remember?

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Dutch
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12 January 2004, 10:44 UTC #4

"ipse dixit" <[email hidden]> wrote
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Your contention was that your alter ego "Benefez" contradicted a statement made *before* you
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I'm not Benefez,
Maybe not, but then you said you wern't Derek Nash either, and you lied about your grocery basket,
so it's not likely I'd believe a word you say.
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but if it eases your embarrassment to believe I am,
I'm not the one trying to support a claim that "most" or "all" meat eaters subscribe to the logic of
the larder by coming up with a couple of names.
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then go ahead and continue deluding yourself. Deluding yourself makes you feel comfortable,
remember?
You should know, taking all those meds tested on animals works pretty well too.

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Ipse Dixit
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12 January 2004, 10:46 UTC #5

Dutch said:
"ipse dixit" <[email hidden]> wrote
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Your contention was that your alter ego "Benefez" contradicted a statement made *before* you
invented him.

I'm not Benefez,
Maybe not, but then you said you wern't Derek Nash either, and you lied about your grocery basket,
For the record, when you asked me about the contents of my grocery basket I told you it was fallen
apples and mustard cress. You edited those items in your reply post to include non-vegan products
without noting it, hoping the reader in google archives would note I actually buy those items. Your
excuse for that unethical stunt was just as unethical. You claimed you did it because you thought I
was lying, yet I might've actually been on a vegan-type fast at the time of your asking.
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then go ahead and continue deluding yourself. Deluding yourself makes you feel comfortable,
remember?
You should know
That's rich, especially from someone who openly admits to deluding himself intentionally to feel
more comfortable with the lies he invents.
" I did find deluding myself quite comfortable, after all who was it hurting?" Dutch 17/03/2002
And
"I no longer cling to that illusion because it is impossible to support. I no longer feel the
need invent ways to try either, which is the real relief." Dutch 16/02/2002
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"The reason I left AR is precisely that I DON'T feel comfortable *knowingly* deluding myself.
Dutch 19/03/2002
Your hypocrisy never ceases to amaze me. How can you sit there accusing everyone else of being
deluded when it's clear that only you suffer from them?

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Dutch
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12 January 2004, 10:47 UTC #6

"ipse dixit" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> Your contention was that your alter ego "Benefez" contradicted a statement made *before* you
> invented him.
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I'm not Benefez,
Maybe not, but then you said you wern't Derek Nash either, and you lied about your grocery
basket,
For the record, when you asked me about the contents of my grocery basket I told you it was fallen
apples and mustard cress.
An outright lie.
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You edited those items in your reply post to include non-vegan products without noting it, hoping
the reader in google archives would note I actually buy those items.
Your attribution of my motives is as misguided as everything else you say. I am not obsessed with
"Google archives" as you are. My motive was to bring to topic the unethical tactics you use in
posting, particularly quoting out of context and unnoted unethical snipping. Your lying in that case
was just the final straw.
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Your excuse for that unethical stunt was just as unethical. You claimed you did it because you
thought I was lying, yet I might've actually been on a vegan-type fast at the time of your asking.
You weren't. I don't believe you are even a vegetarian.
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then go ahead and continue deluding yourself. Deluding yourself makes you feel comfortable,
remember?
You should know
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Your hypocrisy never ceases to amaze me. How can you sit there accusing everyone else of being
deluded when it's clear that only you suffer from them?
Your delusions are blatantly obvious to everyone here. What's astounding is that you appear to not
realize it.

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