Do not understand my numbers and am scared....help?

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Hi:

My name is Scott, and I am having a hard time deciphering my numbers and understanding if I have
diabetes and, if I do, which kind.

First, I am 28 and I have been a sugar eater for most of my life (soda, juices, candy,
cakes...etc) and I, admittedly, never had the strength to stop eating the sweet stuff. I am not
overweight but could lose a few pounds.

First, get the issue of sugar out of your mind. Diabetes has nothing to do with eating sugar. It is
carbs that raise our BG. And yes, sugar is a carb, but so are potatoes, pasta, bread, fruit,
cereal, peas, corn, dried beans and many other things. Eat too many of those as a diabetic and
you'll have high BG.

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I recently was at the doctor for routine stuff and asked why do I pee more than 4 times a night,
and thus, the process began. They did a non fasting blood sugar test and it came to be 267...I had
eaten a bowl of honey nut cheerios that morning...

I then made an appointment for the following week for a fasting test and that day my Blood sugar
level was 113 and, it turns out, my glucose level was 140...a little high.

So, at this point, I am monitoring my diet and checking my blood sugar with a machine (just got it
yesterday!) and have some questions.

After I work out (30 minutes on the bike) my blood sugar is between 80-95 and that is up to 2
hours after but last night, I worked out at
4:30pm checked my blood suagr at 5:30 pm and it was at 84, I was happy...my fiance and I went to
dinner at the out back steak house and I a steak with mashed potatoes and crystal light (no
sugars in this meal) and when I got home 40 minutes later I checked again and my blood suagr was
over 200!! This really scares me...right before I went to bed, around 11pm it was 134...which I
thought was somewhat reasonable...

200 is certainly too high and 134 is too high before bed. The 80 could also be worrisome because
that could quickly lead to a hypo (low BG). You also probably notice that you do not feel well
with your BG going up and down like that. Your dinner did have carbs in it, and obviously more
than your body can handle. Potatoes contain carbs. Crystal Light contains carbs, although not a
lot. If you had any steak sauce or ketchup, those things contain carbs and they might have more
than you'd realize!

As for checking your BG, you need to check it at regular times. Checking when you first get up in
the morning is something pretty much all of us do. I check at two hours after eating. Some people
also check at one hour after eating and before bed. Also check, any time you do not feel well and
suspect a hypo or high BG. But checking at 40 minutes like you did is rather meaningless.

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But, I woke up this AM at 6:30am and checked my level again and it was
140...from what I understand it should be lower. I am scared that I will never get to enjoy the
"sweeter" things in life anymore...

Actually, your morning number will often be the highest number of the day due to dawn phenomoenon.
Many of us find that a snack before bed (some protein and carbs) will help.

Quoted message said:

Am I doing something wrong? Will I have to start taking insulin? Is there an oral alternative for
insulin? I do have my doctors appt in 2 months to do another full blood test but I was hoping to
gain some insight from this community...I am truly scared of what is happening and would really
appreciate any help.

I don't know what kind of Dr. you saw, but you should consider seeing an Endocrinologist. You also
need to see a dietician who will help devise a diet for you. If you have type 1 diabetes, your only
option is insulin. If you have type 2, there are pills you can take. But keep in mind that they
don't work for everyone and some people with type 2 still need insulin.

The Dr. you are seeing doesn't seem to be helping you at all! I'd strongly advise you to see another
Dr. who will take your diabetes seriously.

--
Type 2 users.bestweb.net~jboveOpen ↗

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Quoted message said:

Hi:

My name is Scott, and I am having a hard time deciphering my numbers and understanding if I have
diabetes and, if I do, which kind.

First, I am 28 and I have been a sugar eater for most of my life (soda, juices, candy, cakes...etc)
and I, admittedly, never had the strength to stop eating the sweet stuff. I am not overweight but
could lose a few pounds.

I recently was at the doctor for routine stuff and asked why do I pee more than 4 times a night,
and thus, the process began. They did a non fasting blood sugar test and it came to be 267...I had
eaten a bowl of honey nut cheerios that morning...

I then made an appointment for the following week for a fasting test and that day my Blood sugar
level was 113 and, it turns out, my glucose level was 140...a little high.

So, at this point, I am monitoring my diet and checking my blood sugar with a machine (just got it
yesterday!) and have some questions.

After I work out (30 minutes on the bike) my blood sugar is between 80-95 and that is up to 2 hours
after but last night, I worked out at
4:30pm checked my blood suagr at 5:30 pm and it was at 84, I was happy...my fiance and I went to
dinner at the out back steak house and I a steak with mashed potatoes and crystal light (no
sugars in this meal) and when I got home 40 minutes later I checked again and my blood suagr was
over 200!! This really scares me...right before I went to bed, around 11pm it was 134...which I
thought was somewhat reasonable...

But, I woke up this AM at 6:30am and checked my level again and it was
140...from what I understand it should be lower. I am scared that I will never get to enjoy the
"sweeter" things in life anymore...

Am I doing something wrong? Will I have to start taking insulin? Is there an oral alternative for
insulin? I do have my doctors appt in 2 months to do another full blood test but I was hoping to
gain some insight from this community...I am truly scared of what is happening and would really
appreciate any help.

Thanks. Scott

Your remarks on "sugars" are meaningless. Eating sugar doesn't cause diabetes. Abstaining from
"sugar" is not sufficient to avoid high blood sugars.

Diabetes is a genetic disease. If you have the genes and run into the life circumstances which
"trigger" them, voila, you become diabetic (even if you never eat sugar, ever).

Don't have the genes and you can eat large amounts of sugars and not develop diabetes. (You'll not
do well health-wise, but classical diabetes won't be the cause of your premature death)

Diabetics control blood sugar by rationing their total carbohydrate, avoiding rapidly digesting
carbohydrate, and spreading their daily carb over several smaller meals, as well as by taking
insulin injections or diabetic oral meds.

Examples of rapidly digesting carb are sugar, mashed potatoes, some rice dishes, most breads.
Examples of non-rapidly digesting carb are "hard" potatoes which end up as lumps in your stomach,
really chewy ethnic bread, brown rice, raw carrots, etc, etc.

See

mendosa.comgilists.htmOpen ↗

for an explanation of the Glycemic Index which measures "rapidly-digesting". It has lists of foods
and Glycemic Indices. While you're there, read most of the Mendosa site; he's good.

You fit the profile of an adult-onset Type 1 diabetic. Sorry. If true, that means insulin
injections. There are no substitutes yet available.

Adult-onset Type 1 diabetics lose their beta cells over a period of months to years. Somebody your
age would be expected to lose his insulin over a multi-month period. You probably will be able to
control for a while by diet, by adding exercise and possibly by using beta stimulator pills like
Glucotrol. However, your profile suggests that insulin injections are in your future, perhaps
within months.

There is a chance that you are a Type 2 diabetic and can control with diet, exercise and oral meds.
However, you do not fit the profile of a Type 2 diabetic; you do fit the profile of an adult-onset
Type 1 diabetic.

A newly-diagnosed diabetic with your body type must be aware of the special dangers of adult-onset
Type 1. You could suddenly lose all your insulin, and go into Diabetic Ketoacidosis, a potentially
fatal condition.

Therefore, until you know for certain if you are not an adult-onset Type 1, you must:

a. Test your blood sugar often, several times a day
b. Never allow a sustained period of high blood sugar (over 200) coupled with ketones in your
urine. This set of symptoms means you need immediate injections of insulin to avoid, or
perhaps bring you out of Diabetic Ketoacidosis.

You may buy ketones-in-urine test strips OTC at most pharmacies.

My response to your post has been a bit blunt. Sorry about that. However, it could be a matter of
life and death and clarity is important.

BTW, at first, the thought of insulin injections just about made me throw up. Now I regard them as
trivial and often feel sorry for the diabetics who do not use insulin injections. (One reason is
because insulin-injecting diabetics can eat sweets a lot easier than non-injecting.)

Keep coming back. Reading the diabetic newsgroups every night has resulted in substantial
improvements in my health, quality of life, and, I'm sure, my life expectancy.

Old Al (Adult-onset Type 1)

Salutations Scott! I suffered a lack of comprehension early on also, and for the same reason, no
info from my Dr. upon first dx. Just "come in to see someone about it". Well that didn't cut it for
me. I checked Amazon and then went to the bookstore that day and bought the Gretchen Becker book
"The First Year Type 2 Diabetes: An Essential Guide for the Newly Diagnosed". It answered in Black
and White a lot of the questions I had. After an hour of reading I felt much calmer. There's a lot
of good info and advice here and at alt.support.diabetes. Be sure to check out
www.alt.support.diabetes.org, and www.mendosa.com.
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Quoted message said:

Hi:

My name is Scott, and I am having a hard time deciphering my numbers and understanding if I have
diabetes and, if I do, which kind.

First, I am 28 and I have been a sugar eater for most of my life (soda, juices, candy,
cakes...etc) and I, admittedly, never had the strength to stop eating the sweet stuff. I am not
overweight but could lose a few pounds.

I recently was at the doctor for routine stuff and asked why do I pee more than 4 times a night,
and thus, the process began. They did a non fasting blood sugar test and it came to be 267...I had
eaten a bowl of honey nut cheerios that morning...

I then made an appointment for the following week for a fasting test and that day my Blood sugar
level was 113 and, it turns out, my glucose level was 140...a little high.

So, at this point, I am monitoring my diet and checking my blood sugar with a machine (just got it
yesterday!) and have some questions.

After I work out (30 minutes on the bike) my blood sugar is between 80-95 and that is up to 2
hours after but last night, I worked out at
4:30pm checked my blood suagr at 5:30 pm and it was at 84, I was happy...my fiance and I went to
dinner at the out back steak house and I a steak with mashed potatoes and crystal light (no
sugars in this meal) and when I got home 40 minutes later I checked again and my blood suagr was
over 200!! This really scares me...right before I went to bed, around 11pm it was 134...which I
thought was somewhat reasonable...

But, I woke up this AM at 6:30am and checked my level again and it was
140...from what I understand it should be lower. I am scared that I will never get to enjoy the
"sweeter" things in life anymore...

Am I doing something wrong? Will I have to start taking insulin? Is there an oral alternative for
insulin? I do have my doctors appt in 2 months to do another full blood test but I was hoping to
gain some insight from this community...I am truly scared of what is happening and would really
appreciate any help.

Thanks. Scott

(Scott) said:

My name is Scott, and I am having a hard time deciphering my numbers and understanding if I have
diabetes and, if I do, which kind.

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Welcome Scott.

I can only endorse what the others have said. Unfortunately, the only confusion here, to my mind, is
not whether you have diabetes, but which type. Now relax a little; your doctor has sent you home
confident that you'll be around for the next appointment. This is usually a slow disease and you've
got some time to learn how to combat it. The blood glucose readings are consistent with the timing
of exercise and food intake for a diabetic; they aren't high all the time but vary dependant on
food, exercise and liver and pancreas activity. However, the readings you had are not consistent
with a healthy non-diabetic. I would have said you were type 2, but Old Al has been studying this
affliction a lot longer than me so I would never argue with him. We don't give medical advice here,
just informed lay opinions. Go back to your doc and try to get a referral to a diabetic specialist.
Also, as others have said, go to alt-support-diabetes.orgalt-support-diabetes.orgOpen ↗ and read it for more detailed
info. I know you didn't want to be here, but welcome again.

PS Until you've seen the endo, just one tip that will help keep the numbers a bit lower in the
interim. If it is a carbohydrate and it is basically white, (rice, bread, potato,sugar,flour,corn
etc) eat as little of it as you possibly can.

Cheers Alan, T2, Oz
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Scott...

It's time to call the doc back.

I'm sorry to say, you quite likely have diabetes.

It has nothing to do with the sugar you ate growing up. It has to do with your pancreas.

A diagnosis of diabetes is made when any ONE of these tests is positive, followed by a second
positive test on a different day:

* Fasting plasma glucose of greater than or equal to 126 mg/dl.

* A random glucose test (taken at any time of the day) of greater than or equal to 200 mg/dl.

Sounds like you've had a number of random glucose tests of over 200.

Go back to the doc, and get a Glycosylated Hemoglobin Test.

And then come on back... there's a lot of great folks here with shoulders to lean on.

Jennifer

Scott said:

Hi:

My name is Scott, and I am having a hard time deciphering my numbers and understanding if I have
diabetes and, if I do, which kind.

First, I am 28 and I have been a sugar eater for most of my life (soda, juices, candy,
cakes...etc) and I, admittedly, never had the strength to stop eating the sweet stuff. I am not
overweight but could lose a few pounds.

I recently was at the doctor for routine stuff and asked why do I pee more than 4 times a night,
and thus, the process began. They did a non fasting blood sugar test and it came to be 267...I had
eaten a bowl of honey nut cheerios that morning...

I then made an appointment for the following week for a fasting test and that day my Blood sugar
level was 113 and, it turns out, my glucose level was 140...a little high.

So, at this point, I am monitoring my diet and checking my blood sugar with a machine (just got it
yesterday!) and have some questions.

After I work out (30 minutes on the bike) my blood sugar is between 80-95 and that is up to 2
hours after but last night, I worked out at
4:30pm checked my blood suagr at 5:30 pm and it was at 84, I was happy...my fiance and I went to
dinner at the out back steak house and I a steak with mashed potatoes and crystal light (no
sugars in this meal) and when I got home 40 minutes later I checked again and my blood suagr was
over 200!! This really scares me...right before I went to bed, around 11pm it was 134...which I
thought was somewhat reasonable...

But, I woke up this AM at 6:30am and checked my level again and it was
140...from what I understand it should be lower. I am scared that I will never get to enjoy the
"sweeter" things in life anymore...

Am I doing something wrong? Will I have to start taking insulin? Is there an oral alternative for
insulin? I do have my doctors appt in 2 months to do another full blood test but I was hoping to
gain some insight from this community...I am truly scared of what is happening and would really
appreciate any help.

Thanks. Scott

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Hi:

My name is Scott, and I am having a hard time deciphering my numbers and understanding if I have
diabetes and, if I do, which kind.

Hi scott, though none of us are doctors, it does sound like you are diabetic. my guess, a T2. Your
numbers aren't consistant with a T1 onset.

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First, I am 28 and I have been a sugar eater for most of my life (soda, juices, candy,
cakes...etc) and I, admittedly, never had the strength to stop eating the sweet stuff. I am not
overweight but could lose a few pounds.

first, it's NOT sugar that makes you diabetic. it's the body's inability to process carbs. the cells
[censored] out. (OldAl is the best to explain this)

you say you're not "overweight" but lose a few pounds? how much do you weight and how tall are you?

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I recently was at the doctor for routine stuff and asked why do I pee more than 4 times a night,
and thus, the process began. They did a non fasting blood sugar test and it came to be 267...I had
eaten a bowl of honey nut cheerios that morning...

yep. doc should have diagnosed you upon seeing the 267 and started you on meds or sent you to a
dietician for help. might wanna think about getting a new doc.

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I then made an appointment for the following week for a fasting test and that day my Blood sugar
level was 113 and, it turns out, my glucose level was 140...a little high.

yes, 140 is a bit high, you really shouldn't be over 110 fasting.

Quoted message said:

So, at this point, I am monitoring my diet and checking my blood sugar with a machine (just got it
yesterday!) and have some questions.

After I work out (30 minutes on the bike) my blood sugar is between 80-95 and that is up to 2
hours after but last night, I worked out at
4:30pm checked my blood suagr at 5:30 pm and it was at 84, I was happy...my fiance and I went to
dinner at the out back steak house and I a steak with mashed potatoes and crystal light (no
sugars in this meal) and when I got home 40 minutes later I checked again and my blood suagr was
over 200!! This really scares me...right before I went to bed, around 11pm it was 134...which I
thought was somewhat reasonable...

You think your meal had no "sugar" .. guess again! Mashed potatoes are a carbohydrate, which sugar
is a carbohydrate.. you prolly had about 40-60gm of carbs in that meal. What time did you go out for
dinner? as to the 11pm check of 134?

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But, I woke up this AM at 6:30am and checked my level again and it was
140...from what I understand it should be lower. I am scared that I will never get to enjoy the
"sweeter" things in life anymore...

no you'll not be able to sit and have 5 cookies at a time. but in limited controlled quanities you
can eat "sweets"

Quoted message said:

Am I doing something wrong? Will I have to start taking insulin? Is there an oral alternative for
insulin? I do have my doctors appt in 2 months to do another full blood test but I was hoping to
gain some insight from this community...I am truly scared of what is happening and would really
appreciate any help.

I'd suggest you start walking and exercising daily at least 30mins, do a web search on "low carb"
meals and start eating less carbs. since your doctor isn't smart enough to see a diabetic, do
yourself the favor and get life insurance NOW! I'd tried diet & exercise first before meds many can
control it with just those two. If you continue to remain above 140 even with diet and exercise you
do need meds. You prolly won't need insulin for sometime, that's usually reserved for T1's or T2's
that have lost most self insulin production.

good luck, keep asking questions.

rk

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Thanks. Scott

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Hi:

My name is Scott, and I am having a hard time deciphering my numbers and understanding if I have
diabetes and, if I do, which kind.

First, I am 28 and I have been a sugar eater for most of my life (soda, juices, candy,
cakes...etc) and I, admittedly, never had the strength to stop eating the sweet stuff. I am not
overweight but could lose a few pounds.

I recently was at the doctor for routine stuff and asked why do I pee more than 4 times a night,
and thus, the process began. They did a non fasting blood sugar test and it came to be 267...I had
eaten a bowl of honey nut cheerios that morning...

Not much of a fasting test then eh? :-) Them cheerios only don't count if someone ELSE eats 'em :-)
Anyway, a 267 at ANYTIME isn't good.

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I then made an appointment for the following week for a fasting test and that day my Blood sugar
level was 113 and, it turns out, my glucose level was 140...a little high.

Yep. Too high for a REAL fasting test, which hopefully this WAS 🙂

Quoted message said:

So, at this point, I am monitoring my diet and checking my blood sugar with a machine (just got it
yesterday!) and have some questions.

After I work out (30 minutes on the bike) my blood sugar is between 80-95 and that is up to 2
hours after but last night, I worked out at
4:30pm checked my blood suagr at 5:30 pm and it was at 84, I was happy...my fiance and I went to
dinner at the out back steak house and I a steak with mashed potatoes and crystal light (no
sugars in this meal) and when I got home 40 minutes later I checked again and my blood suagr was
over 200!! This really scares me...right before I went to bed, around 11pm it was 134...which I
thought was somewhat reasonable...

Don't be scared, because you exprienced what all diabtetics expereince when they eat carbohydrates
(potatoes, particularly MASHED potatoes will raise your blood sugar very quickly and very "highly"😉.
You learned that, so use that nowledge to make sure it doesn't happen again. (Eat less mash:-) Over
the folloing few hours, your BG will drop back to near normal levels which you've also seen, but
avoid the spikes.

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But, I woke up this AM at 6:30am and checked my level again and it was
140...from what I understand it should be lower. I am scared that I will never get to enjoy the
"sweeter" things in life anymore...

Well let's be brutally homest here. Sweet things AREN'T good for you and neither are large
quantities of carbs, but no-one os going to tell you you DAREN'T indulge. They#ll tell you "it's
best not to" or "these things can and will damage you if taken in excess". I prefer the direct
approach because I want good eyes, good feet, good kidneys etc, so I ONLY eat anyting sweet if I
have a LOW blood sugar, and at that point, the sweets become "medicine".

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Am I doing something wrong? Will I have to start taking insulin? Is there an oral alternative for
insulin?

There are oral medications, which address the insulin resisitance of T2's and there are oral meds
which make you produce more of your own insulin, but there isn't an oral alternative to insulin.
Insulin is destroyed in the gut before it gets into your bloodstream, so if you have to use insulin,
it has to get in via a pointy thing. (which is actually a total anti-climax and

injecting stop you using insulin of your doc thinks insulin is the right therapy.

I do have my doctors appt in 2

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months to do another full blood test but I was hoping to gain some insight from this community...I
am truly scared of what is happening and would really appreciate any help.

Avoid the sweets (I know, life's a [censored]..) and keep your carbs under control (potato's, pasts,
rice, bread etc) but don't go stupidly low carb (Atkins) at least for now. Take things a little
slowly and keep testing after you've eaten. Testing and recording what you've eaten will soon show
you which foods you can eat with aplomb (not a PLUMB:-) and which foods you'd do better forgetting
about. Don't panic, you won't die anytime soon. Relax. Eat a BALANCED diet with the emphasis on less
carbs ans see how you go when you get to the docs in a few weeks.

Best advice I can offer..

Beav

Welcome, Scott!

Your numbers sure sound like diabetes. Any random BG reading of over 200 indicates diabetes. T2 is
much more common than T1. Before you see your doc again read up - see
hsph.harvard.edudiabetes.htmlOpen ↗ Diet-wise avoid white bread, added sugars,
white potatoes, and refined grain products. You can do a home OGTT to see at what time after eating
your BG numbers peak. Reply to this to find out how - and include your weight, height, and exercise
habits - and your waistsize.

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Hi:

My name is Scott, and I am having a hard time deciphering my numbers and understanding if I have
diabetes and, if I do, which kind.

First, I am 28 and I have been a sugar eater for most of my life (soda, juices, candy,
cakes...etc) and I, admittedly, never had the strength to stop eating the sweet stuff. I am not
overweight but could lose a few pounds.

I recently was at the doctor for routine stuff and asked why do I pee more than 4 times a night,
and thus, the process began. They did a non fasting blood sugar test and it came to be 267...I had
eaten a bowl of honey nut cheerios that morning...

I then made an appointment for the following week for a fasting test and that day my Blood sugar
level was 113 and, it turns out, my glucose level was 140...a little high.

So, at this point, I am monitoring my diet and checking my blood sugar with a machine (just got it
yesterday!) and have some questions.

After I work out (30 minutes on the bike) my blood sugar is between 80-95 and that is up to 2
hours after but last night, I worked out at
4:30pm checked my blood suagr at 5:30 pm and it was at 84, I was happy...my fiance and I went to
dinner at the out back steak house and I a steak with mashed potatoes and crystal light (no
sugars in this meal) and when I got home 40 minutes later I checked again and my blood suagr was
over 200!! This really scares me...right before I went to bed, around 11pm it was 134...which I
thought was somewhat reasonable...

But, I woke up this AM at 6:30am and checked my level again and it was
140...from what I understand it should be lower. I am scared that I will never get to enjoy the
"sweeter" things in life anymore...

Am I doing something wrong? Will I have to start taking insulin? Is there an oral alternative for
insulin? I do have my doctors appt in 2 months to do another full blood test but I was hoping to
gain some insight from this community...I am truly scared of what is happening and would really
appreciate any help.

Thanks. Scott

Hi Scott!

There's nothing to be afraid of. You probably won't die tomorrow or the next day. Not from diabetes
anyway. But you could go through a lot of grief if you don't learn to control it.

Someone mentioned you helping your doctor control your diabetes. That's wrong. It's up to _you_ to
control it with your doctor's help.

Y/ou might go to wave.prohosting.comindex.htmlOpen ↗ and download the diabetes software.
By recording what you eat and when, and the results of testing, you can control quite well.

I was dxed two months ago, and am still learning. My diet has changed considerably. I don't eat the
same things I used to, but am finding there are lots of good things to eat.

If you're testing, that means you probably have a meter. That's your best friend. I test 4 times a
day, FBG (on arising) and just before each meal. Most people test after meals, but I find that
before meals is easier to schedule. Besides, my doctor said to.

I've gotten away from bread, pasta, potatoes, and rice as much as possible. And use Equal or Splenda
instead of sugar.

You need to ask your doctor which type. My doctor had me testing and off sugar and carbs a month
before I finally asked if I was a diabetic and which type
(Y1). She just confirmed what I already knew.

Best of luck!

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-) Al, from my reviews in learning about myself, as you have yourself. both being adult onset's and
not to smart docs having to deal with, I think Scott should ask his doctor for a GAD or Insulin
Antibodies test, this way would be confirmed a T1 or not though GAD testing doesn't help beyond the
3yr mark of onset normally. I tested negative for GAD yet positive for Insulin Antibodies and Islet
Antibodies. Which gave me my positive T1 diagnosis.

cpeptide does no good imho.. I still have a self generated cpeptide of 2.1 as of 9months ago being
checked. which means nothing. I still need insulin, otherwise in 4 days i'm feeling like i'm dying
and have ketones again.

sorry, piggybacked off ya.

RK.

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Hi:

My name is Scott, and I am having a hard time deciphering my numbers and understanding if I have
diabetes and, if I do, which kind.

First, I am 28 and I have been a sugar eater for most of my life (soda, juices, candy,
cakes...etc) and I, admittedly, never had the strength to stop eating the sweet stuff. I am not
overweight but could lose a few pounds.

I recently was at the doctor for routine stuff and asked why do I pee more than 4 times a night,
and thus, the process began. They did a non fasting blood sugar test and it came to be 267...I
had eaten a bowl of honey nut cheerios that morning...

I then made an appointment for the following week for a fasting test and that day my Blood sugar
level was 113 and, it turns out, my glucose level was 140...a little high.

So, at this point, I am monitoring my diet and checking my blood sugar with a machine (just got
it yesterday!) and have some questions.

After I work out (30 minutes on the bike) my blood sugar is between 80-95 and that is up to 2
hours after but last night, I worked out at
4:30pm checked my blood suagr at 5:30 pm and it was at 84, I was happy...my fiance and I went to
dinner at the out back steak house and I a steak with mashed potatoes and crystal light (no
sugars in this meal) and when I got home 40 minutes later I checked again and my blood suagr
was over 200!! This really scares me...right before I went to bed, around 11pm it was
134...which I thought was somewhat reasonable...

But, I woke up this AM at 6:30am and checked my level again and it was
140...from what I understand it should be lower. I am scared that I will never get to enjoy the
"sweeter" things in life anymore...

Am I doing something wrong? Will I have to start taking insulin? Is there an oral alternative for
insulin? I do have my doctors appt in 2 months to do another full blood test but I was hoping to
gain some insight from this community...I am truly scared of what is happening and would really
appreciate any help.

Thanks. Scott

Your remarks on "sugars" are meaningless. Eating sugar doesn't cause diabetes. Abstaining from
"sugar" is not sufficient to avoid high blood sugars.

Diabetes is a genetic disease. If you have the genes and run into the

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circumstances which "trigger" them, voila, you become diabetic (even if you never eat
sugar, ever).

Don't have the genes and you can eat large amounts of sugars and not develop diabetes. (You'll
not do well health-wise, but classical diabetes won't be the cause of your premature death)

Diabetics control blood sugar by rationing their total carbohydrate, avoiding rapidly digesting
carbohydrate, and spreading their daily carb over several smaller meals, as well as by taking
insulin injections or diabetic oral meds.

Examples of rapidly digesting carb are sugar, mashed potatoes, some rice dishes, most breads.
Examples of non-rapidly digesting carb are "hard" potatoes which end up as lumps in your stomach,
really chewy ethnic

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brown rice, raw carrots, etc, etc.

See

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for an explanation of the Glycemic Index which measures

"rapidly-digesting".

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It has lists of foods and Glycemic Indices. While you're there, read

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of the Mendosa site; he's good.

You fit the profile of an adult-onset Type 1 diabetic. Sorry. If true, that means insulin
injections. There are no substitutes yet available.

Adult-onset Type 1 diabetics lose their beta cells over a period of months to years. Somebody your
age would be expected to lose his insulin over

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multi-month period. You probably will be able to control for a while by diet, by adding exercise
and possibly by using beta stimulator pills like Glucotrol. However, your profile suggests that
insulin injections are

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your future, perhaps within months.

There is a chance that you are a Type 2 diabetic and can control with

diet,

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exercise and oral meds. However, you do not fit the profile of a Type 2 diabetic; you do fit the
profile of an adult-onset Type 1 diabetic.

A newly-diagnosed diabetic with your body type must be aware of the

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dangers of adult-onset Type 1. You could suddenly lose all your insulin, and go into Diabetic
Ketoacidosis, a potentially fatal

condition.

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Therefore, until you know for certain if you are not an adult-onset Type

1,

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you must:

a. Test your blood sugar often, several times a day
b. Never allow a sustained period of high blood sugar (over 200) coupled with ketones in
your urine. This set of symptoms means you need immediate injections of insulin to
avoid, or perhaps bring you out of Diabetic Ketoacidosis.

You may buy ketones-in-urine test strips OTC at most pharmacies.

My response to your post has been a bit blunt. Sorry about that. However, it could be a matter of
life and death and clarity is important.

BTW, at first, the thought of insulin injections just about made me throw up. Now I regard them as
trivial and often feel sorry for the diabetics who do not use insulin injections. (One reason is
because insulin-injecting diabetics can eat sweets a lot easier than

non-injecting.)

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Keep coming back. Reading the diabetic newsgroups every night has

resulted

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in substantial improvements in my health, quality of life, and, I'm sure,

my

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life expectancy.

Old Al (Adult-onset Type 1)

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you say you're not "overweight" but lose a few pounds? how much do you weight and how tall
are you?

Sorry I did not mention this, I am 6 foot and 190 lbs...doc says ideal weight is closer to 180...

I just tried to make an appointment with an endocrinologist, no one in my area here is taking new
diabetics...sheesh...I have to call the doc now and get her to call one for me.

I really appreciate everyones input, this is very helpful. I am definitely going to be much more
careful on the amount and types of carbs I put into my body.

Over the past 6-8 months I have been eating far too many sweets, lots of ice cream and candies (I
was loving those popables!)...I am hoping maybe my body will become more stable as I cut out all the
sweets and soda's.

I will continue to ask the questions as I get them..thanks so much! Scott

<<snipperoni>>

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Over the past 6-8 months I have been eating far too many sweets, lots of ice cream and candies (I
was loving those popables!)...I am hoping maybe my body will become more stable as I cut out all
the sweets and soda's.

BTW one of the things I found out was that the onset of diabetes can actually cause you to crave
carbs (sweets) more. I went through the same thing. I just couldn't get enough peanut M&M's. When I
"woke up" I realized that a lot of my recent eating had been SOMEWHAT due to diabetes. Please note I
said SOMEWHAT.
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<<snipperoni>>

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Over the past 6-8 months I have been eating far too many sweets, lots of ice cream and candies (I
was loving those popables!)...I am hoping maybe my body will become more stable as I cut out all
the sweets and soda's.

BTW one of the things I found out was that the onset of diabetes can actually cause you to crave
carbs (sweets) more. I went through the same thing. I just couldn't get enough peanut M&M's. When I
"woke up" I realized that a lot of my recent eating had been SOMEWHAT due to diabetes. Please note
I said SOMEWHAT.
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Just a repetition mate - the sweets and sodas are only one version of carbohydrates, and it's the
carbs that cause your blood glucose to rise. You have to look at all those other starches as well -
they can actually be more important. One slice of bread can be worse than a couple of chocolates.
This disease would probably be simpler to explain if it was colloquially known as carbo diabetes
instead of sugar diabetes.

Cheers Alan, T2, Oz
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<<snipperoni>>

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Over the past 6-8 months I have been eating far too many sweets, lots of ice cream and candies
(I was loving those popables!)...I am hoping maybe my body will become more stable as I cut out
all the sweets and soda's.

BTW one of the things I found out was that the onset of diabetes can actually cause you to crave
carbs (sweets) more. I went through the same thing. I just couldn't get enough peanut M&M's. When
I "woke up" I

realized

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that a lot of my recent eating had been SOMEWHAT due to diabetes. Please note I said SOMEWHAT.
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t2_lurking

I didn't crave sweets at my onset., I just craved food period! when I hit over 300 now is when I
crave sweets.

rk

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BTW one of the things I found out was that the onset of diabetes can actually cause you to crave
carbs (sweets) more. I went through the same thing. I just couldn't get enough peanut M&M's. When
I "woke up" I

realized

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that a lot of my recent eating had been SOMEWHAT due to diabetes. Please note I said SOMEWHAT.

I had cravings for fruit juice and fruit punch. These are things I don't normally even like.

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