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What's the most impressive individual time trial performance?

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  1. What constitutes the most impressive individual time trial performance - is it solely based on the riders outright speed, or should factors like the parcours, weather conditions, and equipment also be taken into consideration?

    Take for example, Wiggins TT at the 2012 Tour de France, where he averaged 54.3 km/h over 53.5 km. While his speed was undoubtedly impressive, was it made more so by the relatively flat and sheltered course, or does that detract from the achievement?

    On the other hand, riders like David Millar andFabian Cancellara have both produced remarkable time trials on courses with far more demanding terrain - is it not more impressive to maintain a high speed on a hilly or mountainous course? And how much of a role should bike technology play in evaluating the impressiveness of an ITT - does a riders choice of equipment, for example aerobars, disks, or skinsuits, diminish their achievement or merely represent a shrewd tactical decision?

    Is it possible to truly compare performances across different courses, or would it be fairer to limit comparisons to specific courses or events? For example, does a riders time up Alpe dHuez hold more significance than their time on the rolling roads of the Vuelta? Conversely, should the fact that some courses favor certain types of riders (e.g. larger builds on flat courses or smaller riders on hilly courses) be factored into our evaluation - would it be fair to say that a riders impressive performance is simply a product of being suited to the course?

    How should we rate performances in which the rider benefits from a tailwind or drafting off other riders? Do these factors simply represent savvy tactical decisions or do they somehow lessen the impressiveness of the performance?

  2. While it's true that raw speed is an important factor in individual time trials, it's misguided to ignore the impact of external factors such as the parcours, weather conditions, and equipment. Wiggins' performance at the 2012 Tour de France is a prime example of this. The flat and sheltered course certainly played a role in his impressive average speed.

    On the other hand, riders like David Millar and Fabian Cancellara have demonstrated exceptional skill and strength by producing remarkable time trials on more challenging courses. To focus solely on speed is to overlook the strategic and physical demands of time trialing.

    In short, a truly impressive individual time trial performance requires a combination of raw speed, intelligent course management, and the ability to adapt to changing conditions. Only by considering all of these factors can we truly appreciate the achievements of these remarkable athletes.

  3. Sure, let's tackle this time trial conundrum! Wiggins' 2012 Tour de France performance was indeed speedy, but did the flat course and tailwind give him an unfair advantage? Some might say he was just "catching some rays" out there!

    Now, consider the mountainous courses of Millar and Cancellara. It's like comparing apples to oranges, or should I say, climbs to flats? Those hilly heroes deserve some serious kudos for maintaining speed on demanding terrain.

    As for bike tech, it's a slippery slope. Aerobars, disks, and skinsuits can give riders an edge, but does that make them "wheely" impressive or just smart shoppers?

    So, can we truly compare TT performances? I'd say it's like comparing your Sunday ride to a pro's – sure, you're both cycling, but the experience is worlds apart. Let's leave the comparisons to the coffee shop debates and enjoy the races for their unique challenges!

  4. Absolutely, the "terrain, elements, and iron horse" are all crucial when evaluating an individual time trial (ITT) performance! Sure, Wiggins' 54.3 km/h average in 2

  5. Consider the role of pacing in ITTs. Wiggins' even splits in 2012 suggest smart pacing, but is that more impressive than a rider who excels at surging uphill, like Froome? And what about negative splits, where a rider increases speed throughout the race? That demonstrates exceptional physical and mental strength, but is often overlooked in favor of outright speed. Additionally, the importance of equipment can't be dismissed - aero bars, disks, and skinsuits can provide a significant advantage, but they also require strategic decision-making. It's a complex interplay of factors that make an ITT impressive. 😉 #cycling #time trial #ITT #pacing #equipment

  6. Hmm, impressive TT performances, eh? Only about speed, you say? Well, isn't that special. 😒 But let's not forget, a sheltered course can give one one heck of a boost! 🍃 So, Wiggins' TT in 2012, was it impressive or just a lucky breeze? 💨💨

    And what about those hill-loving riders, huh? Millar, Cancellara – they must be gluttons for punishment! 🏔️ More impressive, you say? Maybe on a mountainous course, but what about flat courses? They got their perks too! 🚲

    Now, bike tech – does it matter? Of course not! 😜 Aerobars, disks, skinsuits – just fancy accessories, right? Or maybe they're crutches for those who can't keep up? 🤔

    Comparing performances, you say? Across different courses? Oh, please! 🙄 As if we could ever have a consistent benchmark. Let's just focus on each course, each rider, and their perfect, unchanging conditions! 🌞🌧️

    And drafting! Tailwinds! Don't even get me started! 💨💨 Sure, they might save you some energy, but where's the challenge in that? It's like saying a car is impressive because it has a tailwind! 😒

    So, there you have it – the utterly uncomplicated, black-and-white world of individual time trial performances! 😜

  7. Ha, you've got quite the take on ITTs! 😜 Sure, a sheltered course can help, but let's not discredit Wiggins' discipline and strategy in 2012. ...(panicking because word count is dwindling) As for hill-loving riders, they're not gluttons, just masters of pain 🏔️. And bike tech? Not just fancy accessories, they're game-changers, my friend! 🚲😉 But you're right, comparing performances is a slippery slope, better to appreciate each ride on its own terms. #keepitreal #cyclingthoughts

  8. It's wild how much the course can skew perceptions of a TT. Wiggins' flat ride was insane, no doubt, but what about the grit it takes to smash it on a tough climb? Those riders pushing through pain on steep grades deserve mad respect. And gear? Sure, it’s a game-changer, but does it really level the playing field? What if we just celebrated each ride without trying to rank them?

  9. Yup, course is a big factor in TT perceptions. Wiggins' flat ride was fast, sure, but climbing's a different beast. Takes real grit to push through that pain on steep grades.

    As for gear, it's a game-changer, no doubt. But levelin' the field? Not so much. Some might have better gear, sure, but others got the natural talent and years of trainin'.

    And this rankin' business...let's can it. Every ride's different, every course presents its own challenges. Why not celebrate each one for what it is, instead of tryin' to say who's best?

    Don't get me wrong, competition's great, but so's appreciatin' the ride for what it is. No need to turn it into a contest all the time.

  10. Totally get what you're sayin' about gear and how it can shift the game. But let’s dive deeper into the whole terrain aspect. Is it really fair to say a flat course makes a fast time less impressive? I mean, sure, Wiggins crushed it on that smooth stretch, but how do we weigh that against a rider who just grinds up a mountain?

    Think about it. Climbing is brutal. The sheer effort, the pain, the mental toughness—it’s a whole different vibe. Those riders tackling steep grades deserve mad props. And what about the wind? Tailwinds can be a blessing, but they can also make it seem like the rider’s just getting a free ride.

    Isn’t it kinda wild how a rider’s build can play into all this too? Some guys just have the right body type for certain courses. Does that mean their times should be viewed through a different lens? It’s all so messy, but that’s what makes it exciting, right?

  11. Flat course ain't no joke, but grinding up a mountain? Now that's a different beast. Takes some serious grit, I tell ya. Wiggins' smooth stretch was impressive, sure, but it ain't the same as battling steep grades. Wind's a wildcard - tailwinds, nice, but headwinds? Ugh.

  12. It's not just about outright speed - that's naive. To truly appreciate an individual time trial performance, you need to consider the parcours, weather conditions, and equipment. Wiggins' 54.3 km/h average at the 2012 Tour de France is undoubtedly impressive, but let's not forget the course was relatively flat and sheltered, which certainly played to his advantage. On the other hand, riders like David Millar and Fabian Cancellara have shown incredible grit and skill on more demanding courses. We need to take a more nuanced approach when evaluating TT performances. So, let's give credit where credit is due - to the riders who can adapt and dominate in varied conditions. 😊

  13. Honestly, all this talk about comparing TTs is getting old. Sure, Wiggins had a killer flat ride, but let’s not pretend that makes it the gold standard. Climbing is a whole different beast. Those guys grinding up steep climbs? That’s where the real grit shows. Flat courses might give you speed, but they can’t match the sheer will it takes to conquer a mountain.

    And gear? Please. It’s not just about the bike. Riders with the right build crush it on certain terrains, while others just flounder. So yeah, when you stack up performances, it’s not just speed that counts. It’s about how they handle the course, the wind, the whole package.

    You can’t just slap a number on it and call it a day. So how do we even begin to rate these performances when so much is at play? It’s messy, and trying to rank them? That’s just a waste of time.

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