Invergarry - 60s Maps

Alex_Sh@w said:

I would like to see a map of Invergarry and the old road to Skye via Tomdoun, about 1960, before
Loch Loyne was dammed. Can anyone help. I will buy you a new one.

Alex.

I don't have a 1960's map but this one is dated 1896. It isn't large scale but shows the area.

freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.comgroome inv 1896.htmlOpen ↗

or here and scroll down to sheet 41, this one is 1926-27

nls.ukos scotland popular list.htmlOpen ↗

HTH.

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Quoted message said:

Alex_Sh@w said:

I would like to see a map of Invergarry and the old road to Skye via Tomdoun, about 1960, before
Loch Loyne was dammed. Can anyone help. I will buy you a new one.

Alex.

I don't have a 1960's map but this one is dated 1896. It isn't large scale but shows the area.

freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.comgroome inv 1896.htmlOpen ↗

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or here and scroll down to sheet 41, this one is 1926-27

nls.ukos scotland popular list.htmlOpen ↗

HTH.

Wow - awesome link. I never knew this stuff was available.

Thanks

druidh

Thanks Sandy they are great. I am fascinated to see a road on the old map that extending from
Kinloch Hourn (Mhordire on the old map) to Glenelg. It seams to take the route of the electric
pylons that are there now and I have walked that way but did not see any evidence of an old road.

Sandy said:

Alex_Sh@w said:

I would like to see a map of Invergarry and the old road to Skye via Tomdoun, about 1960, before
Loch Loyne was dammed. Can anyone help. I will buy you a new one.

Alex.

I don't have a 1960's map but this one is dated 1896. It isn't large scale but shows the area.

freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.comgroome inv 1896.htmlOpen ↗

or here and scroll down to sheet 41, this one is 1926-27

nls.ukos scotland popular list.htmlOpen ↗

HTH.

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Don`t Worry, Be Happy

Sandy

Alex.

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HTH.

Wow - awesome link. I never knew this stuff was available.

Thanks

druidh

Wow^2 That is amazing.... I have been struggling around second hand bookshops for years collecting
these things..

There is something very evocative about looking at these old maps..

Richard Webb

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Wow - awesome link. I never knew this stuff was available.

Thanks

druidh

I read maps the way some people read books 🙂 These are just some of the links to map sites I have
in my bookmarks.

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Alex_Sh@w said:

Thanks Sandy they are great. I am fascinated to see a road on the old map that extending from
Kinloch Hourn (Mhordire on the old map) to Glenelg. It seams to take the route of the electric
pylons that are there now and I have walked that way but did not see any evidence of an old road.

??

Dou you mean Kinloch Hourn as in the setting off point for Knoydart and Glenelg where the
brochs are?

Kinloch Hourn is Kinloch Hourn and the path is there as per the modern map.
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On 26 Nov 2003 01:59:40 -0800, [email hidden] (Richard Webb)

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There is something very evocative about looking at these old maps..

Yes - anyone got one of Haweswater?

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Richard Webb said:

That is amazing.... I have been struggling around second hand bookshops for years collecting these
things..

There is something very evocative about looking at these old maps..

Actually, the whole site is excellent, top marks to the National Library of Scotland for
this resource.

Richard Webb said:

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HTH.

Wow - awesome link. I never knew this stuff was available.

Thanks

druidh

Wow^2 That is amazing.... I have been struggling around second hand bookshops for years collecting
these things..

There is something very evocative about looking at these old maps..

If you go via the graphical index you get a bigger viewing window.

Now how do we nick the .sid images?
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Phil Cook said:

Alex_Sh@w said:

Thanks Sandy they are great. I am fascinated to see a road on the old map that extending from
Kinloch Hourn (Mhordire on the old map) to Glenelg. It seams to take the route of the electric
pylons that are there now and I have walked that way but did not see any evidence of an old road.

??

Dou you mean Kinloch Hourn as in the setting off point for Knoydart and Glenelg where the
brochs are?

Yes

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Kinloch Hourn is Kinloch Hourn and the path is there as per the modern map.

Yes I have walked the path but the old map shows a road, like the one that leads from Invergarry.
Granted that at that time they would have been unsurfaced cart tracks but the path I walked up from
Kinloch Hourn was so narrow and steep in places that it could never have been even a cart track.
Perhaps the map makers did not distinguish between a path and a track!

Alex.

On Wed, 26 Nov 2003 10:13:25 +0000, Paul Rooney <[email hidden]>

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(Richard Webb) said:

There is something very evocative about looking at these old maps..

Yes - anyone got one of Haweswater?

Yes.. I also have maps of the Elan, pre dam

Richard Webb

Roger Chapman said:

The message <[email hidden]> from Phil Cook <urwalk@p-t-
cook.freeserveSPAMTRAP.co.uk> contains these words:

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I am fascinated to see a road on the old map that extending from Kinloch Hourn (Mhordire on the
old map) to Glenelg.

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??

Quoted message said:

Dou you mean Kinloch Hourn as in the setting off point for Knoydart and Glenelg where the
brochs are?

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Kinloch Hourn is Kinloch Hourn and the path is there as per the modern map.

Are you sure you are not thinking of the path to Barrisdale rather than the route NW to Glenelg?

The 1:50000 Landranger doesn't even show a path for much of the distance but the 7th series 1" did
and it is quite possible that 100 years earlier that path could have been a track. (Not that I have
ever been that way). In any event ISTR that 1" maps in the Highlands often showed tracks as paths
and paths not at all although Alex has said he saw no evidence for a track in this case. However
paths don't always follow the exact line of earlier roadways and a 1" map would only give an
approximate position anyway so there could have been a discarded adjacent track from Kinloch Hourn
which is no longer visible on the ground. The OS seem to think that the middle section of the path
no longer even exists.

From Kinloch Hourn to Glenelg there is a clearly marked path on the modern OS
1:50k following the route of the electricity transmission line. Go and have a look at streetmap if
you don't belive me.

I can find no *road* or a placename Mhordire on the popular one inch sheet 41on the NLS site. I am
at a total loss as to which map Alex is looking at if he says there is a road marked.
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On Wed, 26 Nov 2003 19:22:24 GMT, [email hidden] (RJ

Webb) said:

Paul Rooney said:

(Richard Webb) said:

There is something very evocative about looking at these old maps..

Yes - anyone got one of Haweswater?

Yes.. I also have maps of the Elan, pre dam

Richard Webb

Good man - but an online copy?

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From Kinloch Hourn to Glenelg there is a clearly marked path on the modern OS
1:50k following the route of the electricity transmission line. Go and have a look at streetmap if
you don't belive me.

I can find no *road* or a placename Mhordire on the popular one inch sheet 41on the NLS site. I am
at a total loss as to which map Alex is looking at if he says there is a road marked.

There is a horrid bulldozed maintainance track for the pylons. I used it when doing a coast to coast
a few years back. There is a path shown on th old os map. A much better path, still there is the one
that goes from Kinloch Hourn to Corran, behind Druim Fada.

No road shown on the old map.

There is a proposal to take the National Cycle Route through there linking Glen Garry with Kyle
Rhea. I doubt that will happen without a struggle.

Richard Webb

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The OS seem to think that the middle section of the path no

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longer even exists.

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From Kinloch Hourn to Glenelg there is a clearly marked path on the modern OS
1:50k following the route of the electricity transmission line. Go and have a look at streetmap if
you don't belive me.

I'll believe you.

Landranger 33 (dated 1984) is one of the few Scottish 1:50000s I have that is not just a
reconfigured 1". On that a 3 mile section of the path over Bealach Aoidhdailean is just not there.

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I can find no *road* or a placename Mhordire on the popular one inch sheet 41on the NLS site. I am
at a total loss as to which map Alex is looking at if he says there is a road marked.

As I read off-line I haven't attempted to follow up the earlier maps yet.

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On Thu, 27 Nov 2003 00:22:35 +0000, Phil Cook <[email hidden]> wrote: Snip

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I can find no *road* or a placename Mhordire on the popular one inch sheet 41on the NLS site. I am
at a total loss as to which map Alex is looking at if he says there is a road marked.

I was looking at the 1896 map at:

freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.comgroome inv 1896.htmlOpen ↗

that Sandy told us about.

And to answer Roger's question. I am not confusing it with the path to Barrisdale Bay on the south
side of Loch Hourn.

Alex.

Alex_Sh@w said:

On Thu, 27 Nov 2003 00:22:35 +0000, Phil Cook <[email hidden]>
wrote: Snip

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I can find no *road* or a placename Mhordire on the popular one inch sheet 41on the NLS site. I
am at a total loss as to which map Alex is looking at if he says there is a road marked.

I was looking at the 1896 map at:

freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.comgroome inv 1896.htmlOpen ↗

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that Sandy told us about.

And to answer Roger's question. I am not confusing it with the path to Barrisdale Bay on the south
side of Loch Hourn.

Alex.

If you go to the 1876 map and zoom in you can follow the route from Kinloch Hourn to Glenelg and it
is marked as a track, i.e. a double line rather than a single dotted line, all the way, it even has
spot heights marked on it and fords.

old-maps.co.ukold-maps.co.ukOpen ↗ search for Glenelg and zoom the map in to Glenelg the track starts south
of the village and goes up Glean Beag.

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Alex_Sh@w said:

On Thu, 27 Nov 2003 00:22:35 +0000, Phil Cook <[email hidden]> wrote: Snip

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I can find no *road* or a placename Mhordire on the popular one inch sheet 41on the NLS site. I am
at a total loss as to which map Alex is looking at if he says there is a road marked.

I was looking at the 1896 map at:

freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.comgroome inv 1896.htmlOpen ↗

that Sandy told us about.

And to answer Roger's question. I am not confusing it with the path to Barrisdale Bay on the south
side of Loch Hourn.

<click light switch> Ah! That map. We were talking at cross purposes.

That old map also shows roads Westward from Monar, through Glen Dessarry and up Glen Nevis past
Streap as well. They are perhaps drove routes that have been elevated to road status. though I doubt
whether many cattle would have been driven up Glen Nevis The key such as it is only shows railways
shown thus +++++++++ and an index to parrishes.
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On Thu, 27 Nov 2003 00:22:35 +0000, Phil Cook <[email hidden]>
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I can find no *road* or a placename Mhordire on the popular one inch

sheet 41on

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the NLS site. I am at a total loss as to which map Alex is looking at if

he says

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there is a road marked.

I was looking at the 1896 map at:

freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.comgroome inv 1896.htmlOpen ↗

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that Sandy told us about.

And to answer Roger's question. I am not confusing it with the path to Barrisdale Bay on the south
side of Loch Hourn.

Alex.

Mhordire relates to the name of the hill - Sgurr a' Mhordire or Sgurr a'Mhaoraich - it's the way
you've read the map. But to get back to the original point, given some of the other routes marked on
this map, I don't think these should in any way be confused with what we might call a "road" today.
Shame, we'd have some great through routes otherwise, e.g. along Glen Strathfarrar and out at
Kintail. It'd certainly make Lurg Mhor a good bit more accessible!

druidh