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  1. [email hidden] (francispoon) wrote in message
    news:<[email hidden]>... When I had my bp measurement done and
    cholestrol levels checked at Hong Kong Adventist Hospital, I notice their standards do not take into
    consideration of a person's age. That is to say, whether or not a person is 9 or 90 years old, the
    same set of standards applies to them all.

    The bp standard in China, for example, differs from that in Hong Kong. The upper bp is done by
    adding 90 to a man's age as being the safe limit. For example, I am 58 and therefore as long as my
    upper limit stays within 90+58 or 148, I am safe. That is a far cry from the Joint National
    Committee's 115 that applies to almost anyone that walks and talks!

    Also the absence of age consideration is true of cholestrol levels. No age consideration is involved
    in the standards used by HK Adventist Hospital while in China age is a factor in the variation of
    standards.

    Comments?

    FP

  2. francispoon said:

    [email hidden] (francispoon) wrote in message
    news:<[email hidden]>... When I had my bp measurement done and
    cholestrol levels checked at Hong Kong Adventist Hospital, I notice their standards do not take
    into consideration of a person's age. That is to say, whether or not a person is 9 or 90 years
    old, the same set of standards applies to them all.

    The bp standard in China, for example, differs from that in Hong Kong. The upper bp is done by
    adding 90 to a man's age as being the safe limit. For example, I am 58 and therefore as long as my
    upper limit stays within 90+58 or 148, I am safe. That is a far cry from the Joint National
    Committee's 115 that applies to almost anyone that walks and talks!

    Also the absence of age consideration is true of cholestrol levels. No age consideration is
    involved in the standards used by HK Adventist Hospital while in China age is a factor in the
    variation of standards.

    Comments?

    Already made them in response to your earlier post on the same topic.

    Humbly,

    Andrew

    --
    Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
    Board-Certified Cardiologist
    heartmdphd.comheartmdphd.com

  3. "Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:
    francispoon said:

    [email hidden] (francispoon) wrote in message
    news:<[email hidden]>... When I had my bp measurement done and
    cholestrol levels checked at Hong Kong Adventist Hospital, I notice their standards do not take
    into consideration of a person's age. That is to say, whether or not a person is 9 or 90 years
    old, the same set of standards applies to them all.

    The bp standard in China, for example, differs from that in Hong Kong. The upper bp is done by
    adding 90 to a man's age as being the safe limit. For example, I am 58 and therefore as long as
    my upper limit stays within 90+58 or 148, I am safe. That is a far cry from the Joint National
    Committee's 115 that applies to almost anyone that walks and talks!

    Also the absence of age consideration is true of cholestrol levels. No age consideration is
    involved in the standards used by HK Adventist Hospital while in China age is a factor in the
    variation of standards.

    Comments?

    Already made them in response to your earlier post on the same topic.

    Could not recall you touch on the age consideration. Could you reproduce them here?

    THX

    FP

    Quoted message said:


    Humbly,

    Andrew

  4. francispoon said:

    "Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:
    francispoon said:

    [email hidden] (francispoon) wrote in message
    news:<[email hidden]>... When I had my bp measurement done
    and cholestrol levels checked at Hong Kong Adventist Hospital, I notice their standards do not
    take into consideration of a person's age. That is to say, whether or not a person is 9 or 90
    years old, the same set of standards applies to them all.

    The bp standard in China, for example, differs from that in Hong Kong. The upper bp is done by
    adding 90 to a man's age as being the safe limit. For example, I am 58 and therefore as long
    as my upper limit stays within 90+58 or 148, I am safe. That is a far cry from the Joint
    National Committee's 115 that applies to almost anyone that walks and talks!

    Also the absence of age consideration is true of cholestrol levels. No age consideration is
    involved in the standards used by HK Adventist Hospital while in China age is a factor in the
    variation of standards.

    Comments?

    Already made them in response to your earlier post on the same topic.

    Could not recall you touch on the age consideration. Could you reproduce them here?

    Age should not be a consideration. There is no evidence that it should.

    Quoted message said:


    THX

    You are welcome.

    Humbly,

    Andrew

    --
    Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
    Board-Certified Cardiologist
    heartmdphd.comheartmdphd.com

  5. "Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:
    francispoon said:

    "Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    francispoon wrote:

    > [email hidden] (francispoon) wrote in message
    > news:<[email hidden]>... When I had my bp measurement done
    > and cholestrol levels checked at Hong Kong Adventist Hospital, I notice their standards do
    > not take into consideration of a person's age. That is to say, whether or not a person is 9
    > or 90 years old, the same set of standards applies to them all.
    >
    > The bp standard in China, for example, differs from that in Hong Kong. The upper bp is done
    > by adding 90 to a man's age as being the safe limit. For example, I am 58 and therefore as
    > long as my upper limit stays within 90+58 or 148, I am safe. That is a far cry from the
    > Joint National Committee's 115 that applies to almost anyone that walks and talks!
    >
    > Also the absence of age consideration is true of cholestrol levels. No age consideration is
    > involved in the standards used by HK Adventist Hospital while in China age is a factor in
    > the variation of standards.
    >
    > Comments?
    >

    Already made them in response to your earlier post on the same topic.

    Could not recall you touch on the age consideration. Could you reproduce them here?

    Age should not be a consideration. There is no evidence that it should.

    So by the standard of HK Adventist, my cholestrol level is still too high and needs to come down a
    bit more. Thanks. I am doing careful eating for the next 2 months before measuring it again. If it
    is still too high(above 200mg), I should take medication, if that is what you mean.

    FP

    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:


    THX

    You are welcome.

    Humbly,

    Andrew

  6. francispoon said:

    "Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:
    francispoon said:

    "Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:<[email hidden]>...
    > francispoon wrote:
    >
    > > [email hidden] (francispoon) wrote in message
    > > news:<[email hidden]>... When I had my bp measurement
    > > done and cholestrol levels checked at Hong Kong Adventist Hospital, I notice their
    > > standards do not take into consideration of a person's age. That is to say, whether or not
    > > a person is 9 or 90 years old, the same set of standards applies to them all.
    > >
    > > The bp standard in China, for example, differs from that in Hong Kong. The upper bp is
    > > done by adding 90 to a man's age as being the safe limit. For example, I am 58 and
    > > therefore as long as my upper limit stays within 90+58 or 148, I am safe. That is a far
    > > cry from the Joint National Committee's 115 that applies to almost anyone that walks and
    > > talks!
    > >
    > > Also the absence of age consideration is true of cholestrol levels. No age consideration
    > > is involved in the standards used by HK Adventist Hospital while in China age is a factor
    > > in the variation of standards.
    > >
    > > Comments?
    > >
    >
    > Already made them in response to your earlier post on the same topic.

    Could not recall you touch on the age consideration. Could you reproduce them here?

    Age should not be a consideration. There is no evidence that it should.

    So by the standard of HK Adventist, my cholestrol level is still too high and needs to come down a
    bit more. Thanks.

    You are welcome.

    Quoted message said:

    I am doing careful eating for the next 2 months before measuring it again.

    Low fat/cholesterol and *less*

    Ask your doctor about the 2PD approach:

    heartmdphd.comwtloss.asp

    Quoted message said:

    If it is still too high(above 200mg), I should take medication, if that is what you mean.

    Consult with your doctor.

    Humbly,

    Andrew

    --
    Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
    Board-Certified Cardiologist
    heartmdphd.comheartmdphd.com

  7. "Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:
    francispoon said:

    "Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    francispoon wrote:

    > "Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    > news:<[email hidden]>...
    > > francispoon wrote:
    > >
    > > > [email hidden] (francispoon) wrote in message
    > > > news:<[email hidden]>... When I had my bp measurement
    > > > done and cholestrol levels checked at Hong Kong Adventist Hospital, I notice their
    > > > standards do not take into consideration of a person's age. That is to say, whether or
    > > > not a person is 9 or 90 years old, the same set of standards applies to them all.
    > > >
    > > > The bp standard in China, for example, differs from that in Hong Kong. The upper bp is
    > > > done by adding 90 to a man's age as being the safe limit. For example, I am 58 and
    > > > therefore as long as my upper limit stays within 90+58 or 148, I am safe. That is a far
    > > > cry from the Joint National Committee's 115 that applies to almost anyone that walks and
    > > > talks!
    > > >
    > > > Also the absence of age consideration is true of cholestrol levels. No age consideration
    > > > is involved in the standards used by HK Adventist Hospital while in China age is a
    > > > factor in the variation of standards.
    > > >
    > > > Comments?
    > > >
    > >
    > > Already made them in response to your earlier post on the same topic.
    >
    > Could not recall you touch on the age consideration. Could you reproduce them here?
    >

    Age should not be a consideration. There is no evidence that it should.

    So by the standard of HK Adventist, my cholestrol level is still too high and needs to come down
    a bit more. Thanks.

    You are welcome.

    Quoted message said:

    I am doing careful eating for the next 2 months before measuring it again.

    Low fat/cholesterol and *less*

    Ask your doctor about the 2PD approach:

    My doctors in Hong Kong are amongst the most UN- and anti-intellectual doctors in the whole world.
    All they are interested is $$$$$ and $. How many HK doctors have you seen around here?

    FP
    ---------------------------

    Quoted message said:


    heartmdphd.comwtloss.asp

    Quoted message said:

    If it is still too high(above 200mg), I should take medication, if that is what you mean.

    Consult with your doctor.

    Humbly,

    Andrew

  8. On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 23:37:10 -0500, francispoon wrote
    (in message <[email hidden]>😉:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Ask your doctor about the 2PD approach:

    My doctors in Hong Kong are amongst the most UN- and anti-intellectual doctors in the whole world.

    Then by all means ask them about the 2PD... they will love it! It is the paragon of the anti-
    intellectual approach to dieting.

    --
    Steve

    Weeding the Lord's Vineyards Since 2003

  9. francispoon said:

    "Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:
    francispoon said:

    "Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:<[email hidden]>...
    > francispoon wrote:
    >
    > > "Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    > > news:<[email hidden]>...
    > > > francispoon wrote:
    > > >
    > > > > [email hidden] (francispoon) wrote in message
    > > > > news:<[email hidden]>... When I had my bp measurement
    > > > > done and cholestrol levels checked at Hong Kong Adventist Hospital, I notice their
    > > > > standards do not take into consideration of a person's age. That is to say, whether or
    > > > > not a person is 9 or 90 years old, the same set of standards applies to them all.
    > > > >
    > > > > The bp standard in China, for example, differs from that in Hong Kong. The upper bp is
    > > > > done by adding 90 to a man's age as being the safe limit. For example, I am 58 and
    > > > > therefore as long as my upper limit stays within 90+58 or 148, I am safe. That is a
    > > > > far cry from the Joint National Committee's 115 that applies to almost anyone that
    > > > > walks and talks!
    > > > >
    > > > > Also the absence of age consideration is true of cholestrol levels. No age
    > > > > consideration is involved in the standards used by HK Adventist Hospital while in
    > > > > China age is a factor in the variation of standards.
    > > > >
    > > > > Comments?
    > > > >
    > > >
    > > > Already made them in response to your earlier post on the same topic.
    > >
    > > Could not recall you touch on the age consideration. Could you reproduce them here?
    > >
    >
    > Age should not be a consideration. There is no evidence that it should.

    So by the standard of HK Adventist, my cholestrol level is still too high and needs to come
    down a bit more. Thanks.

    You are welcome.

    Quoted message said:

    I am doing careful eating for the next 2 months before measuring it again.

    Low fat/cholesterol and *less*

    Ask your doctor about the 2PD approach:

    My doctors in Hong Kong are amongst the most UN- and anti-intellectual doctors in the whole world.
    All they are interested is $$$$$ and $. How many HK doctors have you seen around here?

    FP

    None. But then again there are many states and nations that are not represented by their
    doctors here.

    Humbly,

    Andrew

    --
    Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
    Board-Certified Cardiologist
    heartmdphd.comheartmdphd.com

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