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  1. This may seem stupid but I am shortly looking after a small guesthouse (6 double bedrooms) for some
    friends and am concerned re cooking full English breakfasts for up to 12 people so that everything
    comes together at the same time. What preparation can I do the night before, how much time should I
    leave before breakfast is served and in what order? Someone has suggested half cooking the
    sausages/bacon though I'm not so sure.

    Breakfast will typically include (though ideas for 'extras' will be noted): eggs (scrambled, fried
    or poached) bacon sausages baked beans grilled tomatoes toast.

    Any ideas/tips will be greatly appreciated. Many thanks

  2. "jackie pace" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    : This may seem stupid but I am shortly looking after a small
    guesthouse
    : (6 double bedrooms) for some friends and am concerned re
    cooking full
    : English breakfasts for up to 12 people so that everything comes together at the same time. What
    : preparation can I do the night
    before,
    : how much time should I leave before breakfast is served and in
    what
    : order? Someone has suggested half cooking the sausages/bacon
    though
    : I'm not so sure.
    :
    : Breakfast will typically include (though ideas for 'extras'
    will be
    : noted): eggs (scrambled, fried or poached) bacon sausages baked beans grilled tomatoes toast.
    :
    :
    : Any ideas/tips will be greatly appreciated. Many thanks
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    I'm not familiar with what is a typical English breakfast but these would be my thoughts (any items
    with an "*" has the recipe follows at the bottom):

    Eggs - cook to order when requested Bacon & Sausage - these can easily be done in the oven (15-20-
    ish minutes) Baked beans - really? If so, I'd do them ahead of time and warm them up. Grilled
    tomatoes - again, really? I wouldn't have thought them to be a breakfast food either... they can be
    broiled in the oven. Toast - definitely when requested (as in, not ahead of time)

    Scones *Lemon Curd (for toast and/or scones) Jams/Jellies/peanut butter - for toast Quiche (can be
    made ahead of time and baked or reheated) *Coffee Cake (Barb makes an excellent one with Cream
    Cheese - makes 6 at a time that freeze wonderfully. Don't let the length of the recipe scare you -
    it's very easy!) Fresh Fruit assortment *Curried Fruit (can be made ahead of time and warmed up;
    it's good cold, too if you remove/eliminate the butter) *Baked Ham Omelet

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    Lemon Curd

    5 Eggs 5 oz butter 3 lemons (rind and juice) 2 cups sugar

    Thoroughly mixed together and cooked for 10-15 minutes... jarred and refrigerated.

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    Barb's Cream Cheese Coffee Cake 1st Place, Minnesota State Fair 1985, 1986, 1989, 1990! Second
    Place, 1987; not entered 1988. Bombed, 1991

    Crust:
    1/4 cup scalded milk 2 Tbsp sugar
    2/2 tsp. salt
    3/4 cup butter or margarine 1 pkg. active dry yeast
    4/4 cup warm water 1 egg 1-3/4 cups all purpose flour

    Filling: 8 oz. pkg. cream cheese, softened
    5/2 cup sugar 1 egg 1 tsp. vanilla extract Topping:
    6/2 cup butter
    7/4 cup sugar 1 cup flour

    Combine the milk, sugar, salt, and butter. Dissolve the yeast in the warm water. Cool the milk
    mixture and add the proofed yeast to it. Add the egg and flour to the yeast mixture (dough will be
    soft and sticky). Place in a greased bowl and let rise until double -- about 30-45 minutes.

    Roll or pat dough into a circle and place in a greased 16² pizza pan. With greased fingers, shape as
    a pizza crust.

    Make filling by creaming the cheese and sugar together and adding the egg and vanilla. Pour filling
    evenly over crust.

    For topping, cut margarine (butter) into sugar and flour with pastry blender until crumbly. Sprinkle
    on top of filling. Let raise for 30 minutes.

    Bake at 375° for 20-25 minutes, until brown. Drizzle with powdered sugar icing. Cut into wedges.
    Serves 12-16.

    NOTES: Everything can be mixed in the food processor -- and I do. Make crumbly topping first; mix
    dough, then mix filling ingredients. I always use butter for topping and crust.
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    For 6:

    Crusts:
    8/2 cup scalded milk
    9/4 cup sugar 1 tsp. salt
    10/2 cup butter or margarine 2 pkg. active dry yeast
    11/2 cup warm water 1 egg 3-1/2 cups all purpose flour -- and likely more -- up to 3/4 cup or so.

    Filling: 3 - 8 oz. pkg. cream cheese, softened 1-1/2 cup sugar 3 eggs 3 tsp. vanilla extract
    (optional: grated rind and juice of a lemon)

    Topping: 1 cup butter 1-1/2 cup sugar 2 cups flour

    I divide the dough into six parts and filling and topping accordingly, using about 1 cup filling and
    maybe 2/3 cup of topping. Use 8² disposable/reusable foil cake pans, available at fine stores
    everywhere. Bake them for about 15-20 minutes. After about 15 minutes from oven, flip them out of
    the pans using two cake cooling racks. Baking them near the top of your oven doesn't hurt them.

    Oops! I only make this in the food processor. Mix the topping first, and set it aside. Then mix the
    crust dough. If you have a food processor but have never mixed dough in it, do it this way: Using
    the steel blade in the work bowl, measure the flour into the work bowl, add the egg(s) and process
    for about 10-20 seconds; it will look kind of mealy maybe. Gradually add the combined liquids (milk,
    butter, yeast, etc., as recipe directs) with machine running until everything is mixed and doughy.
    It's a pretty sticky dough. Sometimes I add a little more flour at this point so it's more like
    bread dough and sometimes I don't. Mostly I do, because it's really soft and sticky otherwise. When
    measuring the yeast, I don¹t quite double the amount (I use about 4 teaspoons dry yeast.). Then mix
    the filling.

    When cool put them on 8² cardboard circles (or don't) from Maid of Scandinavia/Sweet
    Celebrations and freeze in gallon-size Glad Food Storage bags, from which you've sucked the air.
    They freeze well.

    I've served it and sold it. If you're doing it for yourself, consider cutting it into wedges before
    freezing, then thaw only what you'd like to eat at one time. Or, once it's frozen, cut the wedges.
    Others who have served it have topped it with fresh fruit topping. That's pretty good, too, although
    I prefer it plain.
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    Curried Fruit

    Southern Living - edited version Serving Size : 8

    29 oz canned sliced peaches, drained 29 oz canned sliced pears, drained 20 oz canned pineapple
    chunks, drained 15 oz canned apricot halves, drained
    12/2 c packed brown sugar
    13/3 c butter, melted 2 T curry powder

    Combine fruit in large casserole dish. Combine brown sugar and curry powder and spoon over fruit.
    Pour melted butter on top. Bake at 350 degrees for 30 minutes.
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    Baked Ham Omelet (source: unknown)

    1 lb. Monterey Jack Cheese, shredded 2 cups chopped ham
    14/2 cup melted butter or margarine
    15/2 cup flour 1 tsp. baking powder 1 dozen eggs 1 tsp salt
    16/4 tsp. pepper
    17/4 tsp. Tabasco sauce 1 small container small-curd cottage cheese
    18/2 c. bread crumbs (optional)

    Saute the shredded cheese and ham in 1 T of the butter (just enough to melt the cheese).

    Heat the oven to 400 degrees. Melt the rest of the butter in a 9 X 13 pan in heated oven.

    Sift together the flour and baking powder in a separate bowl.

    Beat the eggs. Add the salt, pepper and Tabasco sauce. Stir in the flour and baking powder mixture,
    cottage cheese, melted cheese and ham with a wire whisk.

    Pour into the buttered 9 X 13 pan. Bake for 15 minutes at 400 degrees, then cover the top with
    buttered bread crumbs, if desired.

    Reduce the heat to 350 degrees, then bake an additional 15-20 minutes or until golden brown and set.
    Serve hot. Will serve
    19.
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  3. From: [email hidden] (jackie=A0pace) This may seem stupid but I am shortly looking after a
    small guesthouse (6 double bedrooms) for some friends and am concerned re cooking full English
    breakfasts for up to 12 people so that everything comes together at the same time. What preparation
    can I do the night before, how much time should I leave before breakfast is served and in what
    order? Someone has suggested half cooking the sausages/bacon though I'm not so sure. Breakfast will
    typically include (though ideas for 'extras' will be noted): eggs (scrambled, fried or poached)
    bacon sausages baked beans grilled tomatoes toast. Any ideas/tips will be greatly appreciated. Many
    thanks------------------------------------------------------ RESPONE: While back on the foodnetwork,
    The Naked Chef Jamie had guests over for the weekend and for the show prepared a nice english
    breakfast which I printed out the recipes and fixed for my boyfriend. It turned out excellent. I
    would go to his site and look over his recipes. Good Luck and hope all goes good.

  4. PLEASE whatever you do DO NOT par cook any of the meats.The night before you could open the cans of
    beans and tomatoes and put them in the fridge (in tupperware type boxes)ready for the pan in the
    morning.Break the eggs and whisk with a touch of milk and again store in the fridge.(for scrambled
    eggs of course) if you have another fridge then you could lay the sausages on a baking tray(do not
    forget to [censored] them) and do the same with the bacon -- alot of establishments that do "breakfasts"
    cook the sausages and bacon in the oven.we used to do this when i worked for the air force as can
    you imagine frying tons of bacon etc. every morning --the ammount of pans would be astronomical.If
    you are using fresh tomatoes rather than tinned ones then halve them and place on a baking tray and
    fridge overnight(put a drop or two of olive oil on them and mill a bit of pepper on the tops).If
    doing mushrooms then clean and store ready for cooking, open tins of baked beans ready to pan in the
    morning,take eggs for frying out of the fridge to get to room temp.do you have black pudding??? it
    is not everyones taste but if you do then slice ready for frying in the morning.good luck, hope i
    haven't forgotten anything.

  5. jackie pace said:


    This may seem stupid but I am shortly looking after a small guesthouse (6 double bedrooms) for
    some friends and am concerned re cooking full English breakfasts for up to 12 people so that
    everything comes together at the same time. What preparation can I do the night before, how much
    time should I leave before breakfast is served and in what order? Someone has suggested half
    cooking the sausages/bacon though I'm not so sure.

    Are you serving all the guests at the same time or taking orders individually?

    Quoted message said:


    Breakfast will typically include (though ideas for 'extras' will be noted): eggs (scrambled, fried
    or poached)

    Scrambled can be kept warm over (not in) hot water, poached can be done earlier, drained and
    reheated in hot water for a few seconds. Fried will need to be done as ordered.

    Quoted message said:

    bacon

    Kept warm in a low oven.

    Quoted message said:

    sausages

    Also kept warm in a low oven.

    Quoted message said:

    baked beans

    Kept warm over hot water or else put them (covered) in the oven along with the sausages/bacon

    Quoted message said:

    grilled tomatoes

    These taste best fresh, but so many B&Bs seem to keep them around. Perhaps undergrill them and
    finish when the order is placed.

    Quoted message said:

    toast.

    Make that to order. 'Kept' toast isn't very nice. Presumably there is a six (or more)-slice toaster?

    Quoted message said:


    Any ideas/tips will be greatly appreciated. Many thanks

    The serving times for breakfast are posted somewhere? You should allow yourself at least one hour
    before the posted time to get ready. Guests don't mind waiting a few minutes and 12 isn't very many.

    Cereal can be placed on the tables in covered containers, for guests to help themselves. Milk can
    kept in serving pitchers in the fridge. Fill glasses with OJ the night before, cover until needed.
    All butter, jams etc can be in serving dishes, covered and placed in the fridge.

    Have the coffee and teapots, toast racks etc on the counters (covered) ready to be filled. The
    tables can be set the night before and covered with clean tea towels.

    If you are uncertain of your abilities, then stick to the items you've mentioned. That's generally
    all that most people expect. Nicely prepared food is worth a short wait.

  6. On 12 Jan 2004 11:25:46 -0800, [email hidden] (jackie pace)

    Quoted message said:

    This may seem stupid but I am shortly looking after a small guesthouse (6 double bedrooms) for some
    friends and am concerned re cooking full English breakfasts for up to 12 people so that everything
    comes together at the same time. What preparation can I do the night before, how much time should I
    leave before breakfast is served and in what order? Someone has suggested half cooking the
    sausages/bacon though I'm not so sure.

    Breakfast will typically include (though ideas for 'extras' will be noted): eggs (scrambled, fried
    or poached) bacon sausages baked beans grilled tomatoes toast.

    Any ideas/tips will be greatly appreciated. Many thanks

    What, no black pudding?

    Or is that only in Scotland? It was a standard part of breakfast in an Edinburgh hotel I stayed at.

    Rodney Myrvaagnes J36 Gjo/a

    Does one child rape really change Strom Thurmond's lifetime record? For better or worse?

  7. On 12 Jan 2004 11:25:46 -0800, [email hidden] (jackie pace)

    Quoted message said:

    This may seem stupid but I am shortly looking after a small guesthouse (6 double bedrooms) for some
    friends and am concerned re cooking full English breakfasts for up to 12 people so that everything
    comes together at the same time.

    Your guests will not arrive to breakfast all at the same time.

    -sw

  8. just had a thought, if the guesthouse is not far from you why not go and have a "dummy" run, it
    will not only put your mind at rest but also that of your friend knowing that things will be in
    safe hands.

  9. Rodney Myrvaagnes said:


    (jackie pace) said:

    This may seem stupid but I am shortly looking after a small guesthouse (6 double bedrooms) for
    some friends and am concerned re cooking full English breakfasts for up to 12 people so that
    everything comes together at the same time. What preparation can I do the night before, how much
    time should I leave before breakfast is served and in what order? Someone has suggested half
    cooking the sausages/bacon though I'm not so sure.

    Breakfast will typically include (though ideas for 'extras' will be noted): eggs (scrambled,
    fried or poached) bacon sausages baked beans grilled tomatoes toast.

    Any ideas/tips will be greatly appreciated. Many thanks

    What, no black pudding?

    Or is that only in Scotland? It was a standard part of breakfast in an Edinburgh hotel I
    stayed at.

    Rodney Myrvaagnes J36 Gjo/a

    It's a regional thing. More common in the more northerly parts. Much less common in the
    Home Counties.

  10. "Arri London" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    Rodney Myrvaagnes said:


    Quoted message said:

    >This may seem stupid but I am shortly looking after a small guesthouse
    (6 double bedrooms) for some friends and am concerned re cooking full English breakfasts for up
    to 12 people so that everything comes together at the same time.


    Your friends are very lucky to have someone to mind the fort but should be sensible enought to leave
    you full instructions. How do they do it? That is the key. There are also food safety issues that
    they should cover with you - cooking for other people is quite different from cooking for your
    family at home. Deb

  11. just like to thank everyone for their very helpful responses, and say that I've got 2 months to
    prepare, I am dealing with the hygiene and safety issues (course booked up), and will do a dummy
    run on chums. Breakfasts will be staggered according to when guests come down so I must be
    prepared. I will also consider black pudding and any other suggestions, and will prepare a ticklist
    for guests to complete the night before. it's the eggs that are gonna challenge me as they are so
    time critical.

  12. "jackie pace" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    just like to thank everyone for their very helpful responses, and say that I've got 2 months to
    prepare, I am dealing with the hygiene and safety issues (course booked up), and will do a dummy
    run on chums. Breakfasts will be staggered according to when guests come down so I must be
    prepared. I will also consider black pudding and any other suggestions, and will prepare a
    ticklist for guests to complete the night before. it's the eggs that are gonna challenge me as
    they are so time critical.

    Hi Jackie

    I missed your original post but will have a look back. I run a youth hostel and spend most of my
    life cooking breakfasts for 20-70 people. We have about 8 different cooked breakfasts on our menu,
    luckily with large groups most people choose the night before, its the odd few that just turn up and
    want breakfast that can throw things.

    Eggs are the easy bit, once you get the knack ;-)

    First, get a good pan. Don't try and save a few quid, get a good catering grade pan, anywhere up to
    £60 is probably about right. I use a paella pan that will hold about 10 eggs. Put in about 1/3" of
    oil and heat gently for ten minutes before you plan to start your first egg. The oil should be very
    warm as opposed to *hot*, just enough to set the egg white. In a very low oven (or a hot plate
    warmer) have several baking trays. Start you first batch of eggs 15 mins before the first breakfast
    is expected and cook just enough to set the outer white and make the egg stable, the white around
    the yolk should not be cooked at all. Put these on the bottom tray in the warmer. Repeat the
    process cooking the whites a little more with each batch to compensate for the reduced oven time as
    servery picks up.

    Also, sounds pedantic, but remember what order you put your eggs in the pan and remove in the same
    order. If it takes 5 seconds to get an egg in or out of the pan and your doing 10 at a time the
    first one could be cooked for an extra 50 seconds which on a 2 minute egg is a lot of cooking!

    The trick is to practice, lots! Took me a while to get the knack and it takes a few mornings to get
    back into the swing of it each year so don;t expect it to be perfect to begin with.

    Other things we do is to tray up bacon and cook in the oven, same with sausages. We do this in
    batchs of 10-15 per tray and put them in 5 minutes apart so we get a "perfect servery window" of
    about 20 minutes, after this they're kept in a warmer. Beans we microwave, quick, easy and less hob
    space taken up. Same with scrambled eggs. We don;t do boiled eggs, too fussy time wise and takes too
    much attention. Kippers with scrambled eggs and oven grilled tomatos is a firm favourite and very
    easy. Just chuck it all in the oven for 15 mins, toast and eggs and its done.

    If I can be of any help just post and I'll give you a more detailed breakdown of breakfast servery.

    Tony

  13. "enuff" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "jackie pace" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    just like to thank everyone for their very helpful responses, and say that I've got 2 months to
    prepare, I am dealing with the hygiene and safety issues (course booked up), and will do a dummy
    run on chums. Breakfasts will be staggered according to when guests come down so I must be
    prepared. I will also consider black pudding and any other suggestions, and will prepare a
    ticklist for guests to complete the night before. it's the eggs that are gonna challenge me as
    they are so time critical.

    Hi Jackie

    I missed your original post but will have a look back. I run a youth


    hostel

    Quoted message said:

    and spend most of my life cooking breakfasts for 20-70 people. We have


    about

    Quoted message said:

    8 different cooked breakfasts on our menu, luckily with large groups most people choose the night
    before, its the odd few that just turn up and want breakfast that can throw things.

    Eggs are the easy bit, once you get the knack ;-)

    First, get a good pan. Don't try and save a few quid, get a good catering grade pan, anywhere up
    to £60 is probably about right. I use a paella pan that will hold about 10 eggs. Put in about 1/3"
    of oil and heat gently for ten minutes before you plan to start your first egg. The oil should be


    very

    Quoted message said:

    warm as opposed to *hot*, just enough to set the egg white. In a very low oven (or a hot plate
    warmer) have several baking trays. Start you first batch of eggs 15 mins before the first
    breakfast is expected and cook just enough to set the outer white and make the egg stable, the
    white around


    the

    Quoted message said:

    yolk should not be cooked at all. Put these on the bottom tray in the warmer. Repeat the process
    cooking the whites a little more with each


    batch

    Quoted message said:

    to compensate for the reduced oven time as servery picks up.

    Also, sounds pedantic, but remember what order you put your eggs in the


    pan

    Quoted message said:

    and remove in the same order. If it takes 5 seconds to get an egg in or


    out

    Quoted message said:

    of the pan and your doing 10 at a time the first one could be cooked for


    an

    Quoted message said:

    extra 50 seconds which on a 2 minute egg is a lot of cooking!

    The trick is to practice, lots! Took me a while to get the knack and it takes a few mornings to
    get back into the swing of it each year so don;t expect it to be perfect to begin with.

    Other things we do is to tray up bacon and cook in the oven, same with sausages. We do this in
    batchs of 10-15 per tray and put them in 5 minutes apart so we get a "perfect servery window"
    of about 20 minutes, after this they're kept in a warmer. Beans we microwave, quick, easy and
    less hob


    space

    Quoted message said:

    taken up. Same with scrambled eggs. We don;t do boiled eggs, too fussy


    time

    Quoted message said:

    wise and takes too much attention. Kippers with scrambled eggs and oven grilled tomatos is a firm
    favourite and very easy. Just chuck it all in


    the

    Quoted message said:

    oven for 15 mins, toast and eggs and its done.

    If I can be of any help just post and I'll give you a more detailed breakdown of breakfast
    servery.

    Tony

    Just googled, 12 for a week isn;t too bad. You'll survive, just keep the ovens hot and bacon cooks
    in 10 mins, sausages in 20. Fry your eggs on demand (keep the pan warm) and they'll only take 3
    mins. Beans keep in a bowl and nuke, do toast on demand. Toms can be done in the oven. Trick is to
    plan ahead. Write a timeline for one breakfast, then two, then three and you'll get a clear picture
    in your head of when and how to cook things.

    Then practice, live on fried breakfasts for a few days and you'll soon get the hang of it (out of
    necessity!)

    HTH

    Tony

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