I need some advice for a friend..

SPOONS said:

Hi all,

I have a friend who's very thin to begin with and she's all upset because she gained 5 lbs over the
holidays. She asked me for the 0 point food list so I gave it to her. Then she emailed me "If I eat
one cup of each food on that 0 point list all at the same time is it still 0 points??? ( ie:
broccoli, green beans, cucumber, celery, peppers, carrots)

Not sure if I will explain this very well, but maybe you could take this approach with her. WW is
based on calories, as is any other weightloss program. Losing weight requires eating less calories
than you expend ... period. Take the calorie content for each vegetable, add them together, then
figure out the points - in the manner you would for figuring out the points for a casserole. I'd
also tell her she has to add a bit of common sense to the program to. If she eats that entire list
of veggies, she is probably gonna be so danged uncomfortable and running to the potty - from
overdosing on the fiber. <G> Especially if her system is NOT used to it. Then again, it might just
be fun to see. <evil grin>

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I still have to give her an answer....but my first responce would be "Yes it's still 0 points but
it depends on how many points your salad dressing is." But I know her & she thinks she can live off
of the 0 points list all day & eat nothing else.

She is grossly mistaken. And just how long does she think she will be able to follow that regimen?
Weight will come off, but due to the abundance of fiber, will more than likely be nothing but water
- especially if she is only looking at losing 5 pounds. Then goes back to *normal* eating, and will
probably put 5+ back on.

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But how long can that last without getting bored of it.

I wouldn't worry as much about the boredom setting in, as the other problems she may encounter due
to her system not getting much needed nutrients from other foods.

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Can someone give me some suggestions on what to tell her?

Other than she is a total goofball? LOL!

Joyce

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Thanks so much. SPOONS

I would tell her you love her dearly and you think if she is really
concerned about her weight she should attend a few WW meetings to make sure
she gets the information right. This will do two things, first if she isn't
really overweight they will tell her and not you, pass one for you, if she
is a few over and doesn't follow the whole program, you are off the hook
again as they told her how to do it and not you, if this won't work give her
what materials you have, copies preferably and tell her that part of
changing a WAL is determining questions like this for oneself, Lee, wishing
you good luck with a difficult friend
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Hi all,

I have a friend who's very thin to begin with and she's all upset because she gained 5 lbs over
the holidays. She asked me for the 0 point food

list

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so I gave it to her. Then she emailed me "If I eat one cup of each food

on

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that 0 point list all at the same time is it still 0 points??? ( ie: broccoli, green beans,
cucumber, celery, peppers, carrots)

I still have to give her an answer....but my first responce would be "Yes it's still 0 points but
it depends on how many points your salad dressing is." But I know her & she thinks she can live
off of the 0 points list

all

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day & eat nothing else. But how long can that last without getting bored of it.

Can someone give me some suggestions on what to tell her?

Thanks so much. SPOONS

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Hi all,

I have a friend who's very thin to begin with and she's all upset because she gained 5 lbs over
the holidays. She asked me for the 0 point food

list

Quoted message said:

so I gave it to her. Then she emailed me "If I eat one cup of each food

on

Quoted message said:

that 0 point list all at the same time is it still 0 points??? ( ie: broccoli, green beans,
cucumber, celery, peppers, carrots)

I still have to give her an answer....but my first responce would be "Yes it's still 0 points but
it depends on how many points your salad dressing is." But I know her & she thinks she can live
off of the 0 points list

all

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day & eat nothing else.

Seems a bit imature to me, but then again, if she has always been slim, then she has never had to
diet before. So she doesn't know. Tell her that all foods contain calories - even veggies, so
although she is eating 0 points per serving, she will still be eating the calories - not many, but
still kalories...She will probably lose weight very fast. And she can combine it with dietary shakes
based on water and still lose about 10 lbs in one month. But what on earth will she do afterwards?
It is a scientific fact that if you lose weight on crash diets that are far from normal eating
patterns the weight comes off quickly, but it will pound on quickly when she starts eating normally
again... She can easily lose 5 lbs in one month by exercising and eating approx. 1500 kcalories a
day (depending on her current weight and age). And it will still be healthy. Once she reaches
goalweight she should aim for the amount of calories needed to maintain - which is the basic
metabolism plus lifestyle physical activities...

quiet snickering at Joyce's evil grin, Lee
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On Thu, 08 Jan 2004 13:32:29 GMT, "SPOONS"

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Quoted message said:

Hi all,

I have a friend who's very thin to begin with and she's all upset because she gained 5 lbs over
the holidays. She asked me for the 0 point food

list

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

so I gave it to her. Then she emailed me "If I eat one cup of each food

on

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

that 0 point list all at the same time is it still 0 points??? ( ie: broccoli, green beans,
cucumber, celery, peppers, carrots)

Not sure if I will explain this very well, but maybe you could take this

approach

Quoted message said:

with her. WW is based on calories, as is any other weightloss program.

Losing

Quoted message said:

weight requires eating less calories than you expend ... period. Take the

calorie

Quoted message said:

content for each vegetable, add them together, then figure out the

points - in the

Quoted message said:

manner you would for figuring out the points for a casserole. I'd also

tell her

Quoted message said:

she has to add a bit of common sense to the program to. If she eats that

entire

Quoted message said:

list of veggies, she is probably gonna be so danged uncomfortable and

running to

Quoted message said:

the potty - from overdosing on the fiber. <G> Especially if her system is

NOT

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used to it. Then again, it might just be fun to see. <evil grin>

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I still have to give her an answer....but my first responce would be "Yes it's still 0 points but
it depends on how many points your salad dressing is." But I know her & she thinks she can live
off of the 0 points list

all

Quoted message said:

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day & eat nothing else.

She is grossly mistaken. And just how long does she think she will be

able to

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follow that regimen? Weight will come off, but due to the abundance of

fiber,

Quoted message said:

will more than likely be nothing but water - especially if she is only

looking at

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losing 5 pounds. Then goes back to *normal* eating, and will probably put

5+ back

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on.

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But how long can that last without getting bored of it.

I wouldn't worry as much about the boredom setting in, as the other

problems she

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may encounter due to her system not getting much needed nutrients from

other

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foods.

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Can someone give me some suggestions on what to tell her?

Other than she is a total goofball? LOL!

Joyce

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Thanks so much. SPOONS