Response to: Autism and Vaccines , WSJ,

"john" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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I would agree with you on one point - lost in all this controversy has

been

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a little thing called science: Science that researches the facts about thimerosal and its damage
to babies' developing brains

Here is the key point she makes, i.e. that it is a given that there is damage to a baby due to
thimerosal. She wants science to prove it, not find out if it is occurring.,

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Truly, Erica McPhee

Jusat for fun, I searched yahoo for ms. McPhee and found her liberally cited on Whale.to...why am I
not suprised?

(john) said:

[majority of shamelessly uneducated and uninformed rant omitted]

You talk about a 3 month old baby that died of acute hepatitis B-induced liver failure - I'm not a
doctor but I can pretty much guarantee a HepB vaccine at birth was not going to save that baby.

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I'm sure that baby did not engage in. In the rare circumstance it was contracted from a blood
transfusion, that HepB vaccine would have done no good. So you see, now you are the one using
scare tactics.

An example of anti-vaccine stupidity. Is she claiming the 3-month-old baby got hepatitis B from a
blood transfusion? If not, then how?

Hepatits B in infants is almost always contracted from the mother. And guess what: If you don't give
the vaccine and an antibody shot to a baby born to a mother with hepatitis B, he is almost
guaranteed to get it himself. If you do, he is almost guaranteed NOT to.

Want some more amusement? Read this excerpts from this:

opinionjournal.comresponses.htmlOpen ↗

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What is unsafe about thimerosal is that it is mercury and the levels that were found in my son at
five years old after his MMR shots were unsafe. He was administered three sets of MMR shots on the
same day. All these shots have been mandated by the government in order to serve the public good.

and

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When I was the mother of a two-year-old who began to have ear infections, I asked my 75-year-old
mother-in-law how she handled all the ear infections she must have had to deal with, since she
had six kids. She told me that they didn't have ear infections when she was raising kids, that
they are new.

(Yes, that's right, folks, ear infections didn't exist before vaccines!)

Here's what the Wall Street Journal wrote about these idiots:

================

Everyone in our business learns to take a punch, but even we've been surprised by the furious
response to an editorial we ran a few weeks ago about vaccines. The subject deserves further
attention, not least because the goal of our antagonists appears to be to shut down public debate on
the matter. For the past few years, a small coterie of parents has taken to loudly claiming that
thimerosal, a preservative used in vaccines for 60 years, is the cause of autism in their children.
Their allegations have scared many parents about immunizations, sent trial lawyers scurrying to sue
the few remaining vaccine makers, and inspired an ugly political dispute. Lost in the controversy
has been a little thing called science.

We felt someone ought to point out that nothing currently exists in the medical world to justify
this furor -- that thimerosal has never been credibly linked to autism, and that recent studies in
leading medical journals have also failed to find a link. That research is one of many reasons the
medical community remains solid in its belief that vaccines are safe.

To our surprise, we had wandered into a hornet's nest of moral intimidation. In letters and e-mails
we've since been accused of "fraud," a "terrorist act," and of having an "industry profit promoting
agenda." We've been told we belong to a vast conspiracy -- including researchers, pediatricians,
corporations, health officials and politicians -- devoted to poisoning their children. A few have
harassed our secretaries and threatened an editorial writer.

As writers for an independent newspaper, we aren't about to shut up. But what worries us is that
these activists are using the same tactics in an attempt to silence others with crucial roles in
public health and scientific research. The campaign to silence or discredit them has already had
damaging consequences.

A case in point is the National Alliance for Autism Research. This widely respected outfit was
founded by parents of autistic children, and its staff and volunteers have raised millions for
research. When the autism claims first surfaced, NAAR dutifully cofunded a Danish study, which found
no connection between the measles-mumps-rubella vaccine and autism. Within days, the critics were
trashing NAAR, claiming it was under the influence of drug companies (untrue) and suggesting its
research couldn't be trusted. NAAR had to spend valuable time and resources rebutting those claims
so it can remain a source of honest information for worried parents.

"PF Riley" <[email hidden]> wrote, quoting the WSJ:

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As writers for an independent newspaper, we aren't about to shut up. But what worries us is that
these activists are using the same tactics in an attempt to silence others with crucial roles in
public health and scientific research. The campaign to silence or discredit them has already had
damaging consequences.

This was a really lame editorial. No one is being silenced by activists. Pro vaccine fanatics
completely dominate the CDC, WHO, the big drug companies, the major medical societies, and the whole
rest of the medical established.

The only ones being silenced are the researchers who cannot publish their vaccine safety data,
because some drug company claims that it is a trade secret.

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NAAR had to spend valuable time and resources rebutting those claims so it can remain a source of
honest information for worried parents.

More lame complaints. All NAAR has to do is to put a page on its web site detailing its funding. How
much valuable time does that take? NAAR should do that anyway.

Roger Schlafly said:

Pro vaccine fanatics completely dominate the CDC, WHO, the big drug companies, the major medical
societies, and the whole rest of the medical established.

Pro-vaccine "fanatics" dominating the entire medical community.... That would be downright funny if
I didn't think there were people out there gullible enough to believe delusional fools like you.

It never ceases to amaze me how far conspiracy nuts will go to support their pet theories. The top
levels of government can't keep a secret beyond a handful of people, yet vast conspiracies are all
around us in which thousands of conspirators keep deadly secrets for decades. Any one of them could
write an expose' and become a national hero and a millionaire, but not a single one ever does. Truly
amazing....

Now get back in my killfile where you belong, you blithering idiot.

"Roger Schlafly" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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"PF Riley" <[email hidden]> wrote, quoting the WSJ:

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As writers for an independent newspaper, we aren't about to shut up. But what worries us is that
these activists are using the same tactics in an attempt to silence others with crucial roles in
public health and scientific research. The campaign to silence or discredit them has already had
damaging consequences.

This was a really lame editorial. No one is being silenced by activists. Pro vaccine fanatics

To paraphrase a Great American, BaAu-H2O:

Fanaticism in defense of saving children is no vice.

completely dominate the CDC, WHO, the big

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drug companies, the major medical societies, and the whole rest of the medical established.

IOW, roger is upset that these venerable institutions are run be people who know what they
are doing....

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The only ones being silenced are the researchers who cannot publish their vaccine safety data,
because some drug company claims that it is a trade secret.

Sure....

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NAAR had to spend valuable time and resources rebutting those claims so it can remain a source
of honest information for worried parents.

More lame complaints. All NAAR has to do is to put a page on its web site detailing its funding.
How much valuable time does that take? NAAR should do that anyway.

"Roger Schlafly" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

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"PF Riley" <[email hidden]> wrote, quoting the WSJ:

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As writers for an independent newspaper, we aren't about to shut up. But what worries us is that
these activists are using the same tactics in an attempt to silence others with crucial roles in
public health and scientific research. The campaign to silence or discredit them has already had
damaging consequences.

This was a really lame editorial. No one is being silenced by activists.

Much to the chagrin of the activists.

--
CBI, MD

"Roger Schlafly" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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"PF Riley" <[email hidden]> wrote, quoting the WSJ:

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As writers for an independent newspaper, we aren't about to shut up. But what worries us is that
these activists are using the same tactics in an attempt to silence others with crucial roles in
public health and scientific research. The campaign to silence or discredit them has already had
damaging consequences.

This was a really lame editorial. No one is being silenced by activists. Pro vaccine fanatics
completely dominate the CDC, WHO, the big drug companies, the major medical societies, and the
whole rest of the medical established.

What is "medical established?" Perhaps it is like gubmnt, whatever that is.

Perhaps the reason why the people who work in the CDC, WHO and the medical societies (Not sure what
"medical established" is. Perhaps it is like "gubmnt," whatever that is.) is that vaccine save so
many lives for a very small cost (compared to the value of lives lost) and a very small risk
compared to the risk of the vaccines. Have you ever seen a child in a hospital or pediatric ICU
because of a vaccine-preventable illness like Hib menigitis, polio, influenza, pneumococcal
menigitis, measles or chicken pox? I have. Fortunately, the Hib vaccine came out before I was a 3rd-
year medical student, so I never saw a child with menigitis from this, but those just a few years
before me did. Have you ever seen people in iron lungs because of polio? Thanks to vaccines, I
haven't. Or a child with small-pox? Ditto.

Have you had to tell parents that their child is dead or dying? Doctors will do anything to avoid
having to do this.

That is why they are so "fanatic." They want to reduce the human cost of illness.

Of course, the drug companies are in it for the same reason I go to work every morning: the money.
That is what companies do. Some companies make life-saving products like vaccines and IV solution,
other companies make "supplements" that rip off or even hurt consumers. Of course, I am not claiming
that drug companies are angels in any sense.

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The only ones being silenced are the researchers who cannot publish their vaccine safety data,
because some drug company claims that it is a trade secret.

Only if the studies are funded by the vaccine companies. For example, a few years ago, there was a
scare about rotavirus vaccine. The CDC and health-care providers moved rapidly to determine if the
scare was real, and, in the mean-time, recommended temporarily discountinuing the vaccination with
that vaccine (the drug company pulled the vaccine from the market because of liability risks).

(...)

Jeff

Carey Gregory said:

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Pro vaccine fanatics completely dominate the CDC, WHO, the big drug companies, the major medical
societies, and the whole rest of the medical established.

It never ceases to amaze me how far conspiracy nuts will go to support

their

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pet theories. The top levels of government can't keep a secret beyond a handful of people, ...
[usual ad hominem attack snipped]

It is not a secret, and it is not a conspiracy. Just look at they web pages. They are pro-vaccine,
and regulary publish pro-vaccine propaganda.

Carey Gregory <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

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Roger Schlafly said:

Pro vaccine fanatics completely dominate the CDC, WHO, the big drug companies, the major medical
societies, and the whole rest of the medical established.

Pro-vaccine "fanatics" dominating the entire medical community....

Yeah, it is pretty amazing how the more training and experience you have with them the more you
like them.

--
CBI, MD

Jeff said:

Quoted message said:

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But what worries us is that these activists are using the same tactics in an attempt to
silence others with crucial roles in public health and scientific research. The campaign to
silence or discredit them has already had damaging consequences.

This was a really lame editorial. No one is being silenced by activists.

Perhaps the reason why the people who work in the CDC, WHO and the medical societies (Not sure
what "medical established" is. Perhaps it is

like

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"gubmnt," whatever that is.) is that vaccine save so many lives for a very small cost (compared to
the value of lives lost) and a very small risk compared to the risk of the vaccines. ...

I meant to say the "medical estabishment".

Yes, I understand that they have reasons for their beliefs. I was just pointing out how ludicrous it
is for the WSJ to complain about the vaccine advocates are being silenced. Who is being silenced?!!
Has the CDC shut down its web site? Has the AAP stopped publishing its recommendations? Have any
states repealed their vaccine laws?

The WSJ editorial is nonsense. The medical establishment is overwhelmingly pro-vaccine, and it will
be for the foreseeable future. No one is being silenced!

The article makes it sound like the CDC, WHO, AAP, drug companies, universities, etc. are all just
cowering in fear about what John might put on his whale.to web site. The WSJ makes it sound like the
director of the CDC might have a press conference tomorrow, and announce: "I've just stumbled on the
whale.to web site, and John makes some good points. We are afraid to rebut them, so we are just
going to shut down our whole vaccine program."

The vaccine advocates are not worried about being silenced. They just don't want any criticism
of any kind.

"Roger Schlafly" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Carey Gregory said:

Quoted message said:

Pro vaccine fanatics completely dominate the CDC, WHO, the big drug companies, the major
medical societies, and the whole rest of the medical established.

It never ceases to amaze me how far conspiracy nuts will go to support

their

Quoted message said:

pet theories. The top levels of government can't keep a secret beyond a handful of people, ...
[usual ad hominem attack snipped]

It is not a secret, and it is not a conspiracy. Just look at they web pages. They are pro-vaccine,
and regulary publish pro-vaccine propaganda.

The reason for this is simple: Vaccines save lives and prevent illness.

Jeff

"Roger Schlafly" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Carey Gregory said:

Quoted message said:

Pro vaccine fanatics completely dominate the CDC, WHO, the big drug companies, the major
medical societies, and the whole rest of the medical established.

It never ceases to amaze me how far conspiracy nuts will go to support

their

Quoted message said:

pet theories. The top levels of government can't keep a secret beyond a handful of people, ...
[usual ad hominem attack snipped]

It is not a secret, and it is not a conspiracy. Just look at they web pages. They are pro-vaccine,
and regulary publish pro-vaccine propaganda.

They probably like publishing pro-vaccine propaganda more than publishing mortalitiy rates from
polio, hepatitis, pertussis, etc. They are so completely unreasonable. Imagine, for one moment, if
your child came home from school with polio and was condemned to live his or her life in a
wheelchair. Imagine if you found out that even though most polio in the US was previously caused by
vaccines (which had been eliminated), their chances of contracting the disease would have been
almost nil.

Just a thought........... probably won't mean much to those looking to blame autism, etc. on a cause
other than bad luck.

j

In article <[email hidden]>,

Roger Schlafly said:

Carey Gregory said:

Quoted message said:

Pro vaccine fanatics completely dominate the CDC, WHO, the big drug companies, the major medical
societies, and the whole rest of the medical established.

It never ceases to amaze me how far conspiracy nuts will go to support

their

Quoted message said:

pet theories. The top levels of government can't keep a secret beyond a handful of people, ...
[usual ad hominem attack snipped]

It is not a secret, and it is not a conspiracy. Just look at they web pages. They are pro-vaccine,
and regulary publish pro-vaccine propaganda.

And you regularly publish anti-vaccine propaganda. So?

-- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net These are my opinions only, but they're almost always
correct. "If I have not seen as far as others, it is because giants were standing on my
shoulders." (Hal Abelson, MIT)

"Roger Schlafly" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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The article makes it sound like the CDC, WHO, AAP, drug companies, universities, etc. are all just
cowering in fear about what John might put on his whale.to web site.

Actually, the are cowering in fear that people will beleive idiots like John and not vaccinate their
kids. If that happens to too many kids, there could be a real serious and deadly outbreak of
disease, like there have been outbreaks of measles and other diseases among unvaccinated people.

(...)

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The vaccine advocates are not worried about being silenced. They just don't want any criticism of
any kind.

The vaccine advocets are fearful that people will beleive John and kids will die as a result.

Jeff

"...[C]hildren are 27 times more likely to develop autism after exposure to three thimerosal-
containing vaccines, than those who receive thimerosal-free versions."^^^

^^^Reported by Erica McPhee as "research from the CDC's own Vaccine Safety Datalink, unveiled at the
Institute of Medicine meeting last Monday."

Wouldn't it be cool if vaccines were totally safe - and it was just the preservative (Thimerosal)
that was causing the deaths and autism, etc.!!

I'm pro-vaccination - as long as MDs obtain true informed consent to vaccinate...

Unfortunately, MDs are NOT obtaining true informed consent.

Worse, they are offering a major fraud to promote their vaccines...

EXCLUSION DAY: AN OBVIOUS VACCINE PROMOTION FRAUD

Organized medicine is selectively endangering vaccinated children.

Most parents are not being told that vaccinations do not always immunize and that many VACCINATED
children are therefore at risk during disease outbreaks...

Worse, no one knows which vaccinated children were not immunized by their vaccinations...

Currently parents seeking vaccination exemptions are told that vaccine-exempt children will be sent
home (protected) during disease outbreaks...

They are told that during disease outbreaks they will have to stay home from work - even if their
children don't get sick.

This is obvious fraudulent MD-needle vaccination promotion - to wit: Get your child vaccinated - or
lose money during disease outbreaks!

This fraud endangers vaccinated children who were not immunized by their vaccinations!

Since ALL children (not just vaccine-exempt children) must be sent home (protected) during disease
outbreaks - starting immediately, ALL parents must be told that ALL children will be sent home
(protected) during disease outbreaks...

PRESCHOOLERS ARE BEING HARMED BY MDs TOO...

Before our ostensibly "pro-immunization" MDs endanger vaccinated SCHOOLchildren (see above), they
are lying by omission thereby denying massive numbers of PRE-SCHOOLERS massive numbers of free daily
immunizations.

MATERNAL ANTIBODIES FOR PASSIVE INFANT IMMUNIZATION NIH GUIDE, Volume 23, Number 40, November 18,
1994 RFA: AI-95-004 grants.nih.govRFA AI 95 004.htmlOpen ↗

Our ostensibly "pro-immunization" MDs are failing to tell pregnant women that breastfeeding women
scan for pathogens and manufacture IMMUNIZATIONS which they "inject" with their breasts DAILY!

Our ostensibly "pro-immunizaton" MDs are failing to tell pregnant women that breastfeedings are free
daily immunizations!

The kicker? Breastimmunizations reportedly MD-needle vaccinations work better!

Quoting Hanson and Telemo [1999]:

"The improved defense against infection in the breast-fed infant is not just a matter of passive,
temporary protection. There is also a definite ACTIVE impact on the breast-fed infant's immune
system that makes it function more efficiently in defense against infections and in response to
vaccines for years to come." [Hanson and Telemo in Ogra et al. Mucosal Im munology 1999:1501,
emphasis added]

So WHY are our ostensibly "pro-immunization" MDs failing to tell the world that breastfeeding women
are IMMUNIZERS who scan for pathogens and manufacture specific IMMUNIZATIONS which they "inject"
with their breasts DAILY?

Could it possibly be because organized medicine drove the free daily immunization rate (the
breastfeeding rate) way DOWN - by "scientifically" addicting America to bottlefeeding and now does
not want to admit that breastfeeding is indeed free daily immunization?

Could it be that MDs don't want to admit they are now and have been committing rather obvious
IMMUNOLOGIC child abuse (not to mention other obvious crimes; see below)?

WE MUST ASK OURSELVES...

WHAT WOMAN - explicitly informed that she can IMMUNIZE her baby daily - is going fail to at least
ATTEMPT to give her baby free daily immunizations that reportedly make MD-needle vaccinations
work better!?

ANSWER: If MDs stopped their lie of omission, DAMNED FEW women would deny their babies free daily
immunizations that reportedly make MD-needle vaccinations work better!

If MDs stopped their lie of omission, the immunization rate would skyrocket!

MDs are lying by omission thereby keeping the breastfeeding rate artificially low!

MDs are committing mass IMMUNOLOGIC child abuse!

See CDC puppet (Wexler's IAC) promotes Exclusion Day vaccination fraud... groups.yahoo.comchiroOpen ↗
list/message/2170

See also my Open Letter to CCO Pres. Allan Gotlib, DC... health.groups.yahoo.comchiroOpen ↗
list/message/2199

FOR OTHER OBVIOUS MD CRIMES...

See FBI: AMA 'pedo-priests': Will DA Cooley prosecute? health.groups.yahoo.comchiroOpen ↗
list/message/2289

One last note: I am in favor of pardons in advance for MDs. MDs are just academic prime cuts forced
through this culture's most powerful mental meatgrinder - medical school.

Thanks for reading everyone.

Sincerely,

Todd

Dr. Gastaldo [email hidden]

This post will be archived for global access at: health.groups.yahoo.comchiroOpen ↗
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Mark Probert-February 18 said:

"Roger Schlafly" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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"PF Riley" <[email hidden]> wrote, quoting the WSJ:

Quoted message said:

As writers for an independent newspaper, we aren't about to shut up. But what worries us is that
these activists are using the same tactics in an attempt to silence others with crucial roles in
public health and scientific research. The campaign to silence or discredit them has already had
damaging consequences.

This was a really lame editorial. No one is being silenced by activists. Pro vaccine fanatics

To paraphrase a Great American, BaAu-H2O:

Fanaticism in defense of saving children is no vice.

completely dominate the CDC, WHO, the big

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drug companies, the major medical societies, and the whole rest of the medical established.

IOW, roger is upset that these venerable institutions are run be people who know what they are
doing....

Haven't checked in for some time; nice to see how much things have changed. ;-)

Steve

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The only ones being silenced are the researchers who cannot publish their vaccine safety data,
because some drug company claims that it is a trade secret.

Sure....

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NAAR had to spend valuable time and resources rebutting those claims so it can remain a source of
honest information for worried parents.

More lame complaints. All NAAR has to do is to put a page on its web site detailing its funding.
How much valuable time does that take? NAAR should do that anyway.

"Jeff" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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"Roger Schlafly" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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... snip...>

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The vaccine advocates are not worried about being silenced. They just don't want any criticism
of any kind.

The vaccine advocets are fearful that people will beleive John and kids

will

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die as a result.

Jeff

I also do not believe vaccine advocates have harrassed the anti-vac folks.

From opinionjournal.comfeature.htmlOpen ↗ : "To our surprise, we had
wandered into a hornet's nest of moral intimidation. In letters and e-mails we've since been accused
of "fraud," a "terrorist act," and of having an "industry profit promoting agenda." We've been told
we belong to a vast conspiracy--including researchers, pediatricians, corporations, health officials
and politicians--devoted to poisoning their children. A few have harassed our secretaries and
threatened an editorial writer."

"Todd Gastaldo" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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"...[C]hildren are 27 times more likely to develop autism after exposure

to

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three thimerosal-containing vaccines, than those who receive thimerosal-free versions."^^^

^^^Reported by Erica McPhee as "research from the CDC's own Vaccine Safety Datalink, unveiled at
the Institute of Medicine meeting last Monday."

Wouldn't it be cool if vaccines were totally safe - and it was just the preservative (Thimerosal)
that was causing the deaths and autism, etc.!!

Really? Thimerosal, in the quantities that were used, have never been shown to cause any problems.
However, to make the vaccines safer, the thimerosal was removed.

Wouldn't it be cool if everything were perfectly safe? I mean even chiropractic has been shown to
cause strokes during neck manipulation. And water can kill.

Of course, vaccines have never been shown to cause autism, either. And the scientific evidence so
far indicates that vaccines do not cause autism.

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I'm pro-vaccination - as long as MDs obtain true informed consent to vaccinate...

Unfortunately, MDs are NOT obtaining true informed consent.

Worse, they are offering a major fraud to promote their vaccines...

EXCLUSION DAY: AN OBVIOUS VACCINE PROMOTION FRAUD

Organized medicine is selectively endangering vaccinated children.

Most parents are not being told that vaccinations do not always immunize

and

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that many VACCINATED children are therefore at risk during disease outbreaks...

Really? This is well known. I don't recall anyone ever claiming that the protection from
vaccination is 100%.

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Worse, no one knows which vaccinated children were not immunized by their vaccinations...

The cool thing is that when herd immunity is built up by vaccination of a population, infections
can't spread, so even when there are conditions that would otherwise lead to an outbreak, the
infections stop.

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Currently parents seeking vaccination exemptions are told that vaccine-exempt children will be
sent home (protected) during disease outbreaks...

Yeah, so what?

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They are told that during disease outbreaks they will have to stay home from work - even if their
children don't get sick.

Really? By whom?

Quoted message said:

This is obvious fraudulent MD-needle vaccination promotion - to wit: Get your child vaccinated -
or lose money during disease outbreaks!

Really? When is the last time that you have heard of a child not being allowed to school because
(s)he was not allowed in school during a disease outbreak because the child was not vaccinated?

And what happens to a parent who has to take care of kid with chicken pox?

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This fraud endangers vaccinated children who were not immunized by their vaccinations!

How? You are removing kids at highest risk of both getting sick and spreading disease during a
disease outbreak (if one would occur).

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Since ALL children (not just vaccine-exempt children) must be sent home (protected) during disease
outbreaks - starting immediately, ALL parents must be told that ALL

children

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will be sent home (protected) during disease outbreaks...

What? Why would you send kids who are at low risk of infection home? BTW, if everyone were
vaccinated, there wouldn't be a disease outbreak.

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PRESCHOOLERS ARE BEING HARMED BY MDs TOO...

Before our ostensibly "pro-immunization" MDs endanger vaccinated SCHOOLchildren (see above), they
are lying by omission thereby denying massive numbers of PRE-SCHOOLERS massive numbers of free
daily immunizations.

MATERNAL ANTIBODIES FOR PASSIVE INFANT IMMUNIZATION NIH GUIDE, Volume 23, Number 40, November 18,
1994 RFA: AI-95-004 grants.nih.govRFA AI 95 004.htmlOpen ↗

Our ostensibly "pro-immunization" MDs are failing to tell pregnant women that breastfeeding women
scan for pathogens and manufacture IMMUNIZATIONS which they "inject" with their breasts DAILY!

Really? I have yet to meet an MD or DO who did not encourage breastfeeding.

However, the "immunization" that women give to their kids is passive immunization, not active
immunization. It is very different. (...)

Rest of garbage deleted. I don't feel like tossing my cookies tonight.

All the best,

Jeff

"Roger Schlafly" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

"PF Riley" <[email hidden]> wrote, quoting the WSJ:

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As writers for an independent newspaper, we aren't about to shut up. But what worries us is that
these activists are using the same tactics in an attempt to silence others with crucial roles in
public health and scientific research. The campaign to silence or discredit them has already had
damaging consequences.

This was a really lame editorial. No one is being silenced by activists. Pro vaccine fanatics
completely dominate the CDC, WHO, the big drug companies, the major medical societies, and the
whole rest of the medical established.

Quite right. The "activists", like you, make little headway, fortunately. You haven't any decent
evidence that fanatics run WHO and the CDC.

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The only ones being silenced are the researchers who cannot publish their vaccine safety data,
because some drug company claims that it is a trade secret.

Gee, they sure seem to get lots of airtime from nutcases like you.

le moo