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  1. =v= A few years back, _San_Francisco_Chronicle_ reporter Edward Epstein grumbled to the
    _Boston_Globe_ that San Francisco would never have a project like Boston's Big Dig (bazillions of
    dollars over budget just to shuffle some cars around) because, among other reasons, VEGETARIAN
    BICYCLISTS would throw themselves in the way[1]. Well, it would seem the Vegetarian Bicyclist Menace
    (VBM) is back.

    =v= A few days ago, tired of hearing the same songs in heavy rotation over and over again, my mother
    fiddled with the dial until she chanced upon a talk radio show featuring a ranting entertainer who
    sounded as if he was hopped up on goofballs. It was, of course, Rush Limbaugh[2].

    =v= As my mother recollects, Limbaugh was frothing against gay marriage in San Francisco, and said
    that Mayor Gavin Newsom was supported by "vegetarian bicyclists in Birkenstocks." So, naturally, she
    thought of me -- though she didn't know what Birkenstocks were.

    =v= Anyway, last I checked, I was a member in good standing of the VBM, but I don't remember seeing
    much in the way of Birkenstocks. I don't own any. Does Birkenstock even *make* SPD-compatible
    sandals? Maybe there's a whole 'nother VBM out there, since the one I'm involved with, while happy
    about the gay marriages, was supporting Matt Gonzalez in the election. <_Jym_>

    _________________________________________________________________
    [1] _Boston_Globe_, 22-April-2000.
    [2] Is this an intentional side-effect of ClearChannel-like music programming?

  2. In article said:

    =v= Anyway, last I checked, I was a member in good standing of the VBM, but I don't remember
    seeing much in the way of Birkenstocks. I don't own any. Does Birkenstock even *make* SPD-
    compatible sandals?

    We're supposed to be using Shimano sandals now. You didn't get the memo?

    Eric

  3. Jym Dyer said:

    =v= Anyway, last I checked, I was a member in good standing of the VBM, but I don't remember
    seeing much in the way of Birkenstocks. I don't own any. Does Birkenstock even *make* SPD-
    compatible sandals? Maybe there's a whole 'nother VBM out there, since the one I'm involved with,
    while happy about the gay marriages, was supporting Matt Gonzalez in the election. <_Jym_>

    The vegans showed up at some antiwar protests with signs that said "peace begins with what's on your
    plate." I'd imagine that Rush was mad because (a) he wasn't invited and (b) he isn't in good enough
    shape to keep up with the "menace" (particularly on steep San Francisco hills.)

  4. On Fri, 27 Feb 2004 05:37:33 GMT, [email hidden] (Bill Z.)
    mumbled incoherently:

    Quoted message said:

    I'd imagine that Rush was mad because (a) he wasn't invited and (b) he isn't in good enough shape
    to keep up with the "menace" (particularly on steep San Francisco hills.)

    Aw, leave the guy alone. He is busy facing what no addict in the US has ever faced - a
    prosecutor's office which is determined to give full immunity to drug dealers in order to
    prosecute one pain killer addict. I wonder why.

    Cordially, Ken (NY) Chairman, Department Of Redundancy Department
    ___________________________________
    email: geocities.comemail.htm

    "Part of the solution for the environmental crisis may well lie in our ability to achieve a better

    -Al Gore, 'Earth In The Balance' page 213

    Q: What the hardest thing about rollerblading?
    R: Telling your parents you’re gay.

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  5. Ken said:

    Aw, leave the guy alone. He is busy facing what no addict in the US has ever faced - a
    prosecutor's office which is determined to give full immunity to drug dealers in order to
    prosecute one pain killer addict. I wonder why.

    Why? Because he's a celebrity, and ambitious prosecutors love celebrity cases.

  6. Terry Morse <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:
    Ken said:

    Aw, leave the guy alone. He is busy facing what no addict in the US has ever faced - a
    prosecutor's office which is determined to give full immunity to drug dealers in order to
    prosecute one pain killer addict. I wonder why.

    Why? Because he's a celebrity, and ambitious prosecutors love celebrity cases.

    Or, perhaps, they listened to Rush of the past who insisted that *all* drug users/abusers should be
    imprisoned.

  7. On Fri, 27 Feb 2004 07:40:59 -0800, Terry Morse <[email hidden]>
    mumbled incoherently:

    Quoted message said:
    Ken said:

    Aw, leave the guy alone. He is busy facing what no addict in the US has ever faced - a
    prosecutor's office which is determined to give full immunity to drug dealers in order to
    prosecute one pain killer addict. I wonder why.

    Why? Because he's a celebrity, and ambitious prosecutors love celebrity cases.

    I will check the constitution for something that takes contitutional rights away from people
    who become successful and famous. But I don't think I will it.

    Ken (NY) Chairman, Department Of Redundancy Department
    ___________________________________
    email: geocities.comemail.htm

    "Part of the solution for the environmental crisis may well lie in our ability to achieve a better

    -Al Gore, 'Earth In The Balance' page 213

    Q: What the hardest thing about rollerblading?
    R: Telling your parents you’re gay.

    spammers can send mail to [email hidden]

  8. On 27 Feb 2004 13:18:43 -0800, [email hidden] (Rick Warner)
    mumbled incoherently:

    Quoted message said:

    Terry Morse <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<tmorse-
    [email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:
    Ken said:

    Aw, leave the guy alone. He is busy facing what no addict in the US has ever faced - a
    prosecutor's office which is determined to give full immunity to drug dealers in order to
    prosecute one pain killer addict. I wonder why.

    Why? Because he's a celebrity, and ambitious prosecutors love celebrity cases.

    Or, perhaps, they listened to Rush of the past who insisted that *all* drug users/abusers should be
    imprisoned.

    Rush Limbaugh Ponders Legal Drug Market

    LEGALIZATION March-April 1998

    On March 12, in response to a caller who asked why the Clinton Administration was not fighting
    illegal drugs with the same effort being used to fight the tobacco industry, conservative talk show
    host Rush Limbaugh responded with some support of a legalized, regulated drug market (The Rush
    Limbaugh Radio Show, March 12, 1998).

    Remarks of Rush Limbaugh on the March 12 show transcribed by the Media Awareness Project:

    "[Drug] interdiction doesn't work and the effort to convince people not to do it really doesn't
    work. In fact, with young people it may even entice them more ...

    Based on the reality of how we're going after cigarette smokers, the thing that we cannot do in
    the drug fight right now is regulate because it's illegal. Drugs are against the law and so the
    manufacturers are illegal. They're not even on shore; they're down there in Colombia and the
    Cali Cartel and they're working to poison the brains and minds of the future of America. And so
    what we do is to try to keep those drugs from getting in. And I agree with you that it's a half
    baked effort ...

    It seems to me that what is missing in the drug fight is legalization. If we want to go after
    drugs with the same fervor and intensity with which we go after cigarettes, let's legalize
    drugs. Legalize the manufacture of drugs. License the Cali Cartel. Make them tax payers and then
    sue them. Sue them left and right and then get control of the price and generate tax revenue
    from it. Raise the price sky high and fund all sorts of other wonderful social programs.

    Because it seems to me, flippant as though it may sound to you, that what gives us the power to
    do what we're doing, what gives the government the power to do what it is doing, state and
    federal, in cigarettes, is that it's a legal substance regulated by the federal government. And
    they don't have any such power and control over drugs because it's illegal. So let's legalize
    them and then go after them the same way ...

    You have to understand that there's not a big morality play going on here with cigarettes. All
    there is in the minds of the citizens, they think it's all about morality and our kids, but it's
    about money. Look at the lawyers down in Florida. They had a contract 25% of whatever they could
    collect. Well that would mean that some lawyers are going to make $200 million. The purpose of
    all this was to help our kids and so forth. The lawyers just want money. Everybody wants their
    cut -- Clinton, Congress, the States all want their cut. It's all about money.

    That's why I'm telling you. You may think my statement here flippant but you asked why aren't we
    going after drugs as fervently as we're going after cigarettes. I agree with [stopping] cocaine,
    marijuana, uh, well, cocaine, crack, LSD, heroin, all those you can [but] I don't know of
    anybody who overdosed on cigarettes. I do know that people have burned their houses down but I
    don't know anybody who said I'm going to smoke cigarettes until I die and then pulled it off
    inside of 12 hours. I do know people who've overdosed on drugs and know of them. You talk about
    death and the ruined lives -- heroin addiction is far more debilitating that tobacco addiction.
    Let's be honest about it. Tobacco addiction is a 30-year death. Heroin addiction is instant
    death and yet we're not going after this stuff with the same moral fervor that we are. Why?
    Because we're not going after cigarettes with a moral fervor either; we're going after
    cigarettes because of money.

    Now if you want to go after drugs on the same basis you've got to make it a target for money and
    the only way that I can think of to do that is either [let] the government become the pimp and
    sell the stuff, make it prescription with the government as the pharmacist; or you legalize
    drugs, let them come into the country, get a whole bunch of generations of people using these
    things and then decide some years later that 'This is terrible. We must stop this. This is
    horrible. Those drug manufacturers have lied to us about the safety of the product. They said
    they we're going to control the amounts and they haven't. We're suing them.' And then go and get
    some money from the Cali drug cartel legally."

    Ken (NY) Chairman, Department Of Redundancy Department
    ___________________________________
    email: geocities.comemail.htm

    "Part of the solution for the environmental crisis may well lie in our ability to achieve a better

    -Al Gore, 'Earth In The Balance' page 213

    Q: What the hardest thing about rollerblading?
    R: Telling your parents you’re gay.

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