Paris-Nice Stage 1 results

That explains it. I was about 2 km from the finish and saw
Frigo pass just a couple of meters ahead of Nozal. I was
wondering what happened. I though Nozal might have fallen to
arrive so late.

BTW, when their teams' cars passed just after them, they
were fighting for position more fiercely than the two
riders, honking at each other and trying to cut the other
car off. For a few seconds there, we had our own mini F1
race (or maybe just normal Paris traffic ).

Sonarrat said:

from cyclingnews.com:

Unofficial 1 Jorg Jaksche (Ger) CSC 17.19 2 David Rebellin
(Ita) Gerolsteiner 0.04 3 Erik Dekker (Ned) Rabobank 4
David Millar (GBr) Cofidis 0.13 5 Alberto Contador (Spa)
Liberty Seguros 6 Alex Zülle (Swi) Phonak 0.14 7 Bobby
Julich (USA) CSC 0.16 8 Grischa Niermann (Ger) Rabobank
0.22 9 Jens Voigt (Ger) CSC 10 Laurent Brochard (Fra) Ag2r
0.23 11 Frank Vandenbroucke (Bel) Fassa Bortolo 12 Oscar
Pereiro (Spa) Phonak 13 Gorka Gonzalez (Spa) Euskaltel
0.24 ... 16 Alexandre Vinokourov (Kaz) T-Mobile

Evidently Isidro Nozal made a bumble, missed his start and
also delayed Dario Frigo. They ran the whole race together
as a result... I can't wait until 1 pm so I can see the
OLN tape delay.

-Sonarrat.

LOL!

Do you think they were Saiz and Ferretti?

-Sonarrat.

in article [email hidden], trg at
[email hidden] wrote on 3/7/04 10:47 AM:

Quoted message said:

That explains it. I was about 2 km from the finish and saw
Frigo pass just a couple of meters ahead of Nozal. I was
wondering what happened. I though Nozal might have fallen
to arrive so late.

BTW, when their teams' cars passed just after them, they
were fighting for position more fiercely than the two
riders, honking at each other and trying to cut the other
car off. For a few seconds there, we had our own mini F1
race (or maybe just normal Paris traffic ).

Quoted message said:

Evidently Isidro Nozal made a bumble, missed his start
and also delayed Dario Frigo. They ran the whole race
together as a result... I can't wait until 1 pm so I can
see the OLN tape delay.

Sonarrat said:

LOL!

Do you think they were Saiz and Ferretti?

-Sonarrat.

I doubt it was Saiz in the car. When Saiz is driving, you
can hear "venga venga" even before the motorcycle passes. I
had no such warning when Frigo and Nozal went by. Plus, Saiz
says more than just "venga". He is quite colorful, using a
lot of words that will get you tossed from polite Spanish
company. I always look forward to learning a few more words.

At last year's tour, France 2 spent one stage in the car
with Saiz. It was entertaining to hear him let loose like a
sailor (They didn't translate the jucier bits into French).

Quoted message said:

in article [email hidden], trg at
[email hidden] wrote on 3/7/04 10:47 AM:

Quoted message said:

That explains it. I was about 2 km from the finish and
saw Frigo pass just a couple of meters ahead of Nozal. I
was wondering what happened. I though Nozal might have
fallen to arrive so late.

BTW, when their teams' cars passed just after them, they
were fighting for position more fiercely than the two
riders, honking at each other and trying to cut the other
car off. For a few seconds there, we had our own mini F1
race (or maybe just normal Paris traffic ).

Quoted message said:

Evidently Isidro Nozal made a bumble, missed his start
and also delayed Dario Frigo. They ran the whole race
together as a result... I can't wait until 1 pm so I can
see the OLN tape delay.

Sonarrat said:

I can't wait until 1 pm so I can see the OLN tape delay.

You watch TT's on TV? Yikes.

trg said:

I was about 2 km from the finish

On the hill in Issy?

Bottom of the hill, at the corner of Ave de la Paix and Rue
Lameroux. I think it's in Vanves.

Robert Chung said:

trg said:

I was about 2 km from the finish

On the hill in Issy?

I would truly like to see Bobby Julich ride another
good year.

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Quoted message said:

from cyclingnews.com:

Unofficial 1 Jorg Jaksche (Ger) CSC 17.19 2 David Rebellin
(Ita) Gerolsteiner 0.04 3 Erik Dekker (Ned) Rabobank 4
David Millar (GBr) Cofidis 0.13 5 Alberto Contador (Spa)
Liberty Seguros 6 Alex Zülle (Swi) Phonak 0.14 7 Bobby
Julich (USA) CSC 0.16 8 Grischa Niermann (Ger) Rabobank
0.22 9 Jens Voigt (Ger) CSC 10 Laurent Brochard (Fra) Ag2r
0.23 11 Frank Vandenbroucke (Bel) Fassa Bortolo 12 Oscar
Pereiro (Spa) Phonak 13 Gorka Gonzalez (Spa) Euskaltel
0.24 ... 16 Alexandre Vinokourov (Kaz) T-Mobile

Evidently Isidro Nozal made a bumble, missed his start and
also delayed Dario Frigo. They ran the whole race together
as a result... I can't wait until 1 pm so I can see the
OLN tape delay.

-Sonarrat.

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Quoted message said:

from cyclingnews.com:

Unofficial 1 Jorg Jaksche (Ger) CSC 17.19 2 David Rebellin
(Ita) Gerolsteiner 0.04 3 Erik Dekker (Ned) Rabobank

Nice to see Dekker with good form.

JMatt

Tom Kunich said:

I would truly like to see Bobby Julich ride another
good year.

I have a feeling you may get your wish. He seems very happy
at CSC. team-csc.comny index.aspOpen ↗ .

When he rode past me today, he was really hitting it. It's
funny, but in a ITT you can often tell who's got a good
time going by how they look when they go past. That and by
how blurry the photo is. Judging by the photo I took, he
was flying 🙂

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[email hidden] wrote on 3/7/04 3:20 PM:

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Quoted message said:

from cyclingnews.com:

Unofficial 1 Jorg Jaksche (Ger) CSC 17.19 2 David
Rebellin (Ita) Gerolsteiner 0.04 3 Erik Dekker (Ned)
Rabobank

Nice to see Dekker with good form.

Nice indeed, and same goes for Julich, Vandenbroucke,
Leipheimer, and a few others who had fallen off their
best. Also nice to see a new face in the top ten in the
form of Liberty Seguros' Alberto Contador, who is 21 years
old! I'm almost exactly a year younger than him; if I
busted my ass for the next year, I'd be absolutely elated
to land where he is.

Botero is still a question mark, but at least he is racing.

As for Jaksche, what can I say? Perhaps he will improve on
last year's 10th place in the TdF.

-Sonarrat.

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[email hidden] wrote on 3/7/04 4:48 PM:

Quoted message said:

As for Jaksche, what can I say? Perhaps he will improve on
last year's 10th place in the TdF.

17th... I meant 17th.

-Sonarrat.

Sonarrat wrot

Quoted message said:

Nice indeed, and same goes for Julich,
Vandenbroucke, Leipheimer, and a few others who had
fallen off their best.

Leipheimer was hoping to do better. However, from the CN
article, it seems he may have been a bit scared of the wet
roads more than lacking raw fitness. He obviously needs to
prove himself.

Dan

In article <[email hidden]>,

Dan Connelly djconnel@i_e_e_e._o_r_g said:

Sonarrat wrot

Quoted message said:

Nice indeed, and same goes for Julich,
Vandenbroucke, Leipheimer, and a few others who had
fallen off their best.

Leipheimer was hoping to do better. However, from the CN
article, it seems he may have been a bit scared of the wet
roads more than lacking raw fitness. He obviously needs to
prove himself.

Dan

It did seem that a lot of guys were being extra cautious
because of the conditions. I hope that Levi can make up
the time deficit. I'd like to see him do well this year.

--
tanx, Howard

Q: Why did the metalhead cross the road?
R: Because he's a gullible moron who'll buy
anything with a skull on it.

remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?

Dan Connelly said:

However, from the CN article, it seems he may have been a
bit scared of the wet roads more than lacking raw fitness.

I'd like to know what the start order vs. finishing time
relationship was. The weather was quite squall-like all
day long. It was dryish at the beginning and end, and it
was alternately sunny, raining, and hailing all through
the middle.

Robert Chung said:

I'd like to know what the start order vs. finishing time
relationship was. The weather was quite squall-like all
day long. It was dryish at the beginning and end, and it
was alternately sunny, raining, and hailing all through
the middle.

Just to clarify, that wasn't meant as a criticism of the
results, or an excuse for any rider -- it was simply to say
that one shouldn't try to divine a rider's fitness (or lack
thereof) from small differences in time on this stage.

Robert Chung schreef:

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I'd like to know what the start order vs. finishing time
relationship was. The weather was quite squall-like all
day long. It was dryish at the beginning and end, and it
was alternately sunny, raining, and hailing all through
the middle.

VDB SUFFERED MOST I read. Well maybe that's just
regenerating the hype, ha.

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Quoted message said:

I would truly like to see Bobby Julich ride another
good year.

I wouldn't believe that. Wait until the first mountain
stage.

I'm certainly glad OLN is broadcasting the race, but that
was some shallow coverage, about like typical track and
field coverage.

I would love to have seen the real action when the big
split occured.

I suppose somebody figured not much was going to happen
until the finish, expecting a sprint, and decided that
scarce coverage dollars shouldn't be spent covering the
usual boring leadup.

Wayne

Wayne Pein schreef:

Quoted message said:

II suppose somebody figured not much was going to happen
until the finish, expecting a sprint, and decided that
scarce coverage dollars shouldn't be spent covering the
usual boring leadup.

Since they just buy the images rights from a French chain,
they don't have to anticipate of expect anything They
probably simply have no clue about what's interesting. I saw
the split on Flemish TV journal.

I have heard this remark too about English language Le Tour
of France videos, showing a soloist to the finish for the
last kms, but nothing of the race plot. Funny stuff.