Egg beater pedals on a recumbent

paul said:

While i'm on the subject of defining my perfect recumbent,
I was wondering about cleated (clippless?) pedals and in
particular those funny looking egg beater pedals. Now, on
the face of it they seem like a good idea, but as you will
be bigining to gather, my expereince of cycling is a
little behind the times.

I can't speak of them in the context of recumbents but I
have been using egg beaters on my tourer for a while and
although I have yet to put in a serious ride I do like them,
aesthetics and function! I waited until the had affordable
ones, the 70 quid bottom of the range jobs rather than the
super-light titanium ones.

One thing to bear in mind is that they have just two
settings, tight and not so tight, and you switch between the
settings by swapping the cleats between left and right
shoes, ie not a 10 second adjustment. If you are happy with
the settings they are very easy to use, you never have to
flip them round to find a side, and almost maintenance free.

If you are new to clipless then I would suggest getting some
cheaper doublesided SPDs or SPD-clones. These can be
adjusted with an Allen key by tiny amounts if necessary.
They would probably be a safer introduction to clipless,
starting off loose and tightening up as you become more
adept at getting in and out of them. Once you are used to
them you might then want to go for something else.

Colin
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paul said:

So, once again, I trun to this forum, for some educated
and experenced comments.

They seem quite popular in the US, and look great in
principle... but another principle I used was that having
two pairs of ATACs already (on the MTB and the (then
upright) tourer) it made an awful lot of sense to stick with
ATACs and use the same shoes on all my bikes. How much of a
weight weenie are you, and do you really foresee needing 4
sides to clip in from rather than two? If you can find a
good price on them or you have cash to burn go ahead, but if
you're already happy with an existing flavour of clipless
pedal might as well stick with it, I think. I've had no
problems with Time ATACs which also have cleanliness and
simplicity going for them, like the Eggbeaters.

Kinetics do eggbeaters if you really Must Have Them.

Pete.
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paul said:

So, once again, I trun to this forum, for some educated
and experenced comments.

PS from my last post, it is a Clear Win having *some* sort
of clipless pedal on any 'bent where the pedalling
position is such that you're not really pushing down (so
something like the HPVel Spirit doesn't really need them,
but the other HPVels it's a Good Thing). Because
otherwise you have to hold your feet up to the pedals the
whole time, rather than just have them fastened in place.

If you've not used clipless before don't worry: Roos started
using them while getting used to riding a recumbent at the
same time. Not only that, but she was using slightly too big
shoes as well at the time just to make life harder, and she
never came to grief.

Pete.
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paul said:

While i'm on the subject of defining my perfect recumbent,
I was wondering about cleated (clippless?) pedals and in
particular those funny looking egg beater pedals. Now, on
the face of it they seem like a good idea, but as you will
be bigining to gather, my expereince of cycling is a
little behind the times.

They seem to be Well Thought Of, but they are what Ex-
Chairman Dave would call "ferrrrrrrociously expensive".
FWIW, Look pedals hang at precisely the right angle for
recumbents.

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On Tue, 16 Mar 2004 10:21:41 -0000, Dave Larrington <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

paul said:

While i'm on the subject of defining my perfect
recumbent, I was wondering about cleated (clippless?)
pedals and in particular those funny looking egg beater
pedals. Now, on the face of it they seem like a good
idea, but as you will be bigining to gather, my
expereince of cycling is a little behind the times.

They seem to be Well Thought Of, but they are what Ex-
Chairman Dave would call "ferrrrrrrociously expensive".

Not any longer. They used to be 300 quid then versions were
added with less titanium and more steel. The base model is
now 70 quid RRP which I don't think is ferociously
expensive.

Colin
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On Tue, 16 Mar 2004 10:27:01 -0000, "Colin Blackburn"

() said:

Dave Larrington said:

paul said:

While i'm on the subject of defining my perfect
recumbent, I was wondering about cleated (clippless?)
pedals and in particular those funny looking egg beater
pedals. Now, on the face of it they seem like a good
idea, but as you will be bigining to gather, my
expereince of cycling is a little behind the times.

They seem to be Well Thought Of, but they are what Ex-
Chairman Dave would call "ferrrrrrrociously expensive".

Not any longer. They used to be 300 quid then versions were
added with less titanium and more steel. The base model is
now 70 quid RRP which I don't think is ferociously
expensive.

I've seen them for as little as NZ$120 (about £45) But
that's not much help, really. It's a long way to go for
them.

Oh, if anyone is interested in taking advantage of the US
exchange rate, www.allspares.com sell Leatherman Waves for
appx US$60. And they ship outside of USAnia. :-)

--
Matt "Clutching his shiny new juice XE6 in grey" K
Dunedin, NZ

Colin Blackburn said:

Not any longer. They used to be 300 quid then versions
were added with less titanium and more steel. The base
model is now 70 quid RRP which I don't think is
ferociously expensive.

It is in comparison with the various Looks I use. My
Speedmachine and Trice have PP337s, at twenty-seven
quid a pair.

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Whingin' Pom said:

Oh, if anyone is interested in taking advantage of the US
exchange rate, www.allspares.com sell Leatherman Waves for
appx US$60. And they ship outside of USAnia. :-)

I get a nice empty page giving me an address in Ireland!

Colin
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On Tue, 16 Mar 2004 10:48:13 -0000, "Colin Blackburn"

() said:

Whingin' Pom said:

Oh, if anyone is interested in taking advantage of the US
exchange rate, www.allspares.com sell Leatherman Waves
for appx US$60. And they ship outside of USAnia. :-)

I get a nice empty page giving me an address in Ireland!

Sorry, misremebered the URL. Try
allsparestools.comallsparestools.comOpen ↗ instead.
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On Tue, 16 Mar 2004 10:44:56 -0000, Dave Larrington <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Colin Blackburn said:

Not any longer. They used to be 300 quid then versions
were added with less titanium and more steel. The base
model is now 70 quid RRP which I don't think is
ferociously expensive.

It is in comparison with the various Looks I use. My
Speedmachine and Trice have PP337s, at twenty-seven
quid a pair.

Yeah but I was counting the number of rs in ferrrr...

Colin
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Peter Clinch said:

If you've not used clipless before don't worry: Roos
started using them while getting used to riding a recumbent
at the same time. Not only that, but she was using slightly
too big shoes as well at the time just to make life harder,
and she never came to grief.

There was a slight panic one time when I hadn't done up the
oversized sandals tight enough (i.e. toekilling tight) and I
twisted my foot to release and nothing happened, my foot
just turned inside the shoe. Discovered that you can release
them by a less subtle kicking motion as well :-)

Roos

Colin Blackburn said:

paul said:

While i'm on the subject of defining my perfect
recumbent, I was wondering about cleated (clippless?)
pedals and in particular those funny looking egg beater
pedals. Now, on the face of it they seem like a good
idea, but as you will be bigining to gather, my
expereince of cycling is a little behind the times.

Quoted message said:

[snip]

If you are new to clipless then I would suggest getting
some cheaper doublesided SPDs or SPD-clones. These can be
adjusted with an Allen key by tiny amounts if necessary.
They would probably be a safer introduction to clipless,
starting off loose and tightening up as you become more
adept at getting in and out of them. Once you are used to
them you might then want to go for something else.

I put single-sided, platform SPD pedals on the Dutch
Speedbike (on the theory that I could ride with ordinary
shoes if necessary). The unexpected but nice discovery was
that they are balanced so that they always present the
cleated side to the recumbent rider at exactly the right
angle to clip in.

Peter

Roos Eisma <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

Quoted message said:

There was a slight panic one time when I hadn't done up
the oversized sandals tight enough (i.e. toekilling tight)
and I twisted my foot to release and nothing happened, my
foot just turned inside the shoe. Discovered that you can
release them by a less subtle kicking motion as well :-)

While intoning the magic incantation: "Oh Fu.... "? :-)

--
Dave...

Peter Clinch said:

another principle I used was that having two pairs of
ATACs already (on the MTB and the (then upright) tourer)
it made an awful lot of sense to stick with ATACs and use
the same shoes on all my bikes.

That's the main reason I've never bought a pair. I only
really use the recumbent now, but even if I only have to buy
one new pair of pedals I've still got 3 pairs of shoes that
already have SPD cleats. I don't really want the hassle of
replacing all the cleats.

Anyway, I really like having platform one side, SPD on the
other. Originally the idea was that I could let other people
try out the bike (which is good), but it's also nice to be
able to ride occasionally without having to clip in.

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In message <ef1ji1-
[email hidden]>, Simon Brooke
<[email hidden]> writes

Quoted message said:

Prejudice, OK?

Egg-beaters put your foot quite a long way from the pedal
spindle, and this doesn't help cycling effort. They are
light, and they do have a fair bit of float, which reduces
the risk of kneee injury, but they aren't as light or as
good for float as Speedplay Frogs.

Personally, if I had the money I'd go for Frogs, and if I
didn't I'd stick with SPDs.

I've been wondering about Frogs, are they okay with shoes
that have proper walking treads? Do you know what shoes they
are compatible with? I think they're designed for SPD
fitting? TIA
--
Julian

paul said:

While i'm on the subject of defining my perfect recumbent,
I was wondering about cleated (clippless?) pedals and in
particular those funny looking egg beater pedals. Now, on
the face of it they seem like a good idea, but as you will
be bigining to gather, my expereince of cycling is a
little behind the times.

So, once again, I trun to this forum, for some educated
and experenced comments.

TiA

I had a conversation about pedals with my mountain biking
friend the other day. He and his mate are the type that
break things regularly, perhaps they go for extreme light
weight at the cost of strength, I don't know. He said two of
his friends have used Egg Beaters on their mountain bikes
and on both bikes they, the pedals, fell apart. He suspects
some design flaw like a thread managing to undo itself due
to the turning motion. Maybe a gunged up Egg Beater is not a
good idea.

in message <[email hidden]>, Julian

(') said:

In message <ef1ji1-
[email hidden]>, Simon Brooke
<[email hidden]> writes

Quoted message said:

Prejudice, OK?

Egg-beaters put your foot quite a long way from the pedal
spindle, and this doesn't help cycling effort. They are
light, and they do have a fair bit of float, which reduces
the risk of kneee injury, but they aren't as light or as
good for float as Speedplay Frogs.

Personally, if I had the money I'd go for Frogs, and if I
didn't I'd stick with SPDs.

I've been wondering about Frogs, are they okay with shoes
that have proper walking treads? Do you know what shoes
they are compatible with? I think they're designed for SPD
fitting? TIA

They're (obviously) not compatible with SPDs, but they are
compatible with shoes which are compatible with SPDs.

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