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  1. Hi there - This is my first time posting to the group.

    I've been walking on and off for years but the same problem
    returns again and again. The muscle that runs on top of the
    shin, and the outside of the shin bone, starts to tense as I
    warm up. It seems to only get worse as I go until I can
    hardly pick my toes off the ground. It's pretty painful.
    I've tried stretching both it and the calf muscle
    extensively before I begin walking and sometimes during my
    walk, again, to no avail. It will sometimes relax for awhile
    but I really have to focus on the muscle and slow way down.
    I get the same pain if I walk on a bumpy chip-rock road or a
    treadmill. Does anyone have similar pain or have any
    suggestions? I really don't want to stop walking - it's
    really the only way I'm able to stay off my duff.

    You can either reply to the group or email my directly at:
    [email hidden] (remove the NOSPAM and the
    following "."😉

    Thank you!

    Sara

    PS - I thought this pain was shin splints for awhile, but I
    just looked it up online and have changed my mind. The
    pain I have is on top of my shin (on the outside of the
    shin bone) while shin splint occur on the inside, to my
    understanding.

  2. Sara said:

    I've been walking on and off for years but the same problem
    returns again and again. The muscle that runs on top of the
    shin, and the outside of the shin bone, starts to tense as
    I warm up. It seems to only get worse as I go until I can
    hardly pick my toes off the ground. It's pretty painful.
    I've tried stretching both it and the calf muscle
    extensively before I begin walking and sometimes during my
    walk, again, to no avail. It will sometimes relax for
    awhile but I really have to focus on the muscle and slow
    way down. I get the same pain if I walk on a bumpy chip-
    rock road or a treadmill. Does anyone have similar pain or
    have any suggestions? I really don't want to stop walking -
    it's really the only way I'm able to stay off my duff.

    Do you normally wear high heels?
    --
    Chris Malcolm [email hidden] +44 (0)131 651 3445 DoD #205
    IPAB, Informatics, JCMB, King's Buildings, Edinburgh, EH9 3JZ, UK
    ["]http://www.dai.ed.ac.uk/homes/cam/]

  3. Hi Chris - No, I've never worn high-heels in my life. I do
    have "Leg-Length Discrepancy", i.e. my left leg is 13mm
    shorter than my right. I wear a lift in my shoe to event
    them out. The pain seems to occur on both legs, regardless.

    Thanks, Sara

    "Chris Malcolm" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    Sara said:

    I've been walking on and off for years but the same
    problem returns again and again. The muscle that runs on
    top of the shin, and the outside of


    the

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    shin bone, starts to tense as I warm up. It seems to only
    get worse as I


    go

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    until I can hardly pick my toes off the ground. It's
    pretty painful. I've tried stretching both it and the
    calf muscle extensively before I begin walking and
    sometimes during my walk, again, to no avail. It will


    sometimes

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    relax for awhile but I really have to focus on the muscle
    and slow way


    down.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I get the same pain if I walk on a bumpy chip-rock road
    or a treadmill.


    Does

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    anyone have similar pain or have any suggestions? I
    really don't want to stop walking - it's really the only
    way I'm able to stay off my duff.

    Do you normally wear high heels?
    --
    Chris Malcolm [email hidden] +44 (0)131 651 3445
    DoD #205 IPAB, Informatics, JCMB, King's Buildings,
    Edinburgh, EH9 3JZ, UK
    ["]http://www.dai.ed.ac.uk/homes/cam/]

  4. Quoted message said:

    I've been walking on and off for years but the same problem
    returns again and again. The muscle that runs on top of the
    shin, and the outside of the shin bone, starts to tense as
    I warm up.

    I'm here for the same reason... looking for some guidance as
    to whether there is anything that can be done to aid/prevent
    this... although I'm going to assume that it's just that the
    muscles haven't totally adapted to the excersie yet.

    You say you've been walking on & off for years... once this
    pain pops up, are you stopping your walking? or do you go
    back the next day? The reason I ask is because, in my case
    (on 3 mile walks), the soreness is exactly what you describe
    for my first 1.5 miles, but the my next 1.5 miles is a
    breeze, with no problems. I know my case is newbitis, while
    my muscles haven't totally gotten used to the excersie-pace
    walking... as each day the soreness during my walk is a
    little less than the day before.

    Does your pain persist after your walk? My shins are 'tight'
    all day, but not really sore.... it's only during the walk
    when that soreness is present. How fast are your attempting
    to walk? I'm starting out with a pretty good pace, around
    3.5-4 mph... and am going to start out a lil slower and work
    my way up to that pace to see if it helps.

    Anywho, I could be totally wrong, but I'm just going to
    guess you are in the same boat as myself and that your
    muscles haven't totally adapted to your excersice just
    yet... but will go away with more excercise.

    Quoted message said:

    PS - I thought this pain was shin splints for awhile, but I
    just looked it up online and have changed my mind.

    You are correct, shin splints & walking is just about
    unheard of.

  5. Hi there - thanks for your response. What I've tenatively
    ruled the cause of the pain as at this point is this: poor
    shoes, too much too soon, and just walking incorrectly.

    Since my original post, I've worked on lengthening my stride
    by pusing my knees back to where they almost lock when my
    leg is extended behind me. It's kind of like when you're
    hiking and you go up a hill - if you almost lock your knees
    on the way the way up, your bones and joints (instead of
    muscles) take the stress of the climb and make it a little
    easier - your legs don't get pooped out so soon. The idea is
    the same with walking, except because I'm on a level surface
    and not a hill (most of the time), I need to push my hips
    back and out a little. I'm not sure if this is the "correct"
    way to do it, but I haven't had the pain since I've started
    it. I do experience a little pain in my hips, but I think
    that may be due to my leg-length discrepancy. I've got
    sortof a boy-ish gait and not the hip-swinging motions of a
    girl so my hips are not used to moving much as I walk.
    Anyway, yesterday I walked 4 miles without any problems.

    My other two issues - bad shoes and too much too soon - can
    be remedied easy enough. Actually finding shoes that fit my
    feet correctly is usually a chore. Since my legs are
    different lengths the foot of my shorter leg is *much* wider
    than my other one. My left foot needs a wide width shoe
    while my right one swims in wides. Grrr. Probably time to go
    to the podiatrist again, anyway.

    Sorry for the digression and rambling. It does sound like
    we're experiencing the same pain, though. I thought I was
    the only one. Nice to know otherwise. Good luck with your
    search for your cure! I'd be glad if I were of any help.

    Sara

    "No Spam" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:

    I've been walking on and off for years but the same
    problem returns again and again. The muscle that runs on
    top of the shin, and the outside of


    the

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    shin bone, starts to tense as I warm up.

    I'm here for the same reason... looking for some guidance
    as to whether there is anything that can be done to
    aid/prevent this... although I'm going to assume that it's
    just that the muscles haven't totally adapted to the
    excersie yet.

    You say you've been walking on & off for years... once
    this pain pops up, are you stopping your walking? or do
    you go back the next day? The reason I ask is because, in
    my case (on 3 mile walks), the soreness is exactly what
    you describe for my first 1.5 miles, but the my next 1.5
    miles is a breeze, with no problems. I know my case is
    newbitis, while my muscles haven't totally gotten used to
    the excersie-pace walking... as each day the soreness
    during my walk is a little less than the day before.

    Does your pain persist after your walk? My shins are
    'tight' all day, but not really sore.... it's only during
    the walk when that soreness is present. How fast are your
    attempting to walk? I'm starting out with a pretty good
    pace, around 3.5-4 mph... and am going to start out a lil
    slower and work my way up to that pace to see if it helps.

    Anywho, I could be totally wrong, but I'm just going to
    guess you are in the same boat as myself and that your
    muscles haven't totally adapted to your excersice just
    yet... but will go away with more excercise.

    Quoted message said:

    PS - I thought this pain was shin splints for awhile, but
    I just looked


    it

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    up online and have changed my mind.

    You are correct, shin splints & walking is just about
    unheard of.

  6. Sara said:

    Hi there - thanks for your response. What I've tenatively
    ruled the cause of the pain as at this point is this: poor
    shoes, too much too soon, and just walking incorrectly.

    Since my original post, I've worked on lengthening my
    stride by pusing my knees back to where they almost lock
    when my leg is extended behind me. It's kind of like when
    you're hiking and you go up a hill - if you almost lock
    your knees on the way the way up, your bones and joints
    (instead of muscles) take the stress of the climb and make
    it a little easier - your legs don't get pooped out so
    soon. The idea is the same with walking, except because
    I'm on a level surface and not a hill (most of the time),
    I need to push my hips back and out a little. I'm not sure
    if this is the "correct" way to do it, but I haven't had
    the pain since I've started it. I do experience a little
    pain in my hips, but I think that may be due to my leg-
    length discrepancy. I've got sortof a boy-ish gait and not
    the hip-swinging motions of a girl so my hips are not used
    to moving much as I walk. Anyway, yesterday I walked 4
    miles without any problems.

    My other two issues - bad shoes and too much too soon -
    can be remedied easy enough. Actually finding shoes that
    fit my feet correctly is usually a chore. Since my legs
    are different lengths the foot of my shorter leg is *much*
    wider than my other one. My left foot needs a wide width
    shoe while my right one swims in wides. Grrr. Probably
    time to go to the podiatrist again, anyway.

    Sorry for the digression and rambling. It does sound like
    we're experiencing the same pain, though. I thought I was
    the only one. Nice to know otherwise. Good luck with your
    search for your cure! I'd be glad if I were of any help.

    Sara

    "No Spam" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:

    I've been walking on and off for years but the same
    problem returns again and again. The muscle that runs
    on top of the shin, and the outside of


    the

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    shin bone, starts to tense as I warm up.

    I'm here for the same reason... looking for some
    guidance as to whether there is anything that can be
    done to aid/prevent this... although I'm going to assume
    that it's just that the muscles haven't totally adapted
    to the excersie yet.

    You say you've been walking on & off for years... once
    this pain pops up, are you stopping your walking? or do
    you go back the next day? The reason I ask is because,
    in my case (on 3 mile walks), the soreness is exactly
    what you describe for my first 1.5 miles, but the my
    next 1.5 miles is a breeze, with no problems. I know my
    case is newbitis, while my muscles haven't totally
    gotten used to the excersie-pace walking... as each day
    the soreness during my walk is a little less than the
    day before.

    Does your pain persist after your walk? My shins are
    'tight' all day, but not really sore.... it's only
    during the walk when that soreness is present. How fast
    are your attempting to walk? I'm starting out with a
    pretty good pace, around 3.5-4 mph... and am going to
    start out a lil slower and work my way up to that pace
    to see if it helps.

    Anywho, I could be totally wrong, but I'm just going to
    guess you are in the same boat as myself and that your
    muscles haven't totally adapted to your excersice just
    yet... but will go away with more excercise.

    Quoted message said:

    PS - I thought this pain was shin splints for awhile,
    but I just looked


    it

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    up online and have changed my mind.

    You are correct, shin splints & walking is just about
    unheard of.

    If the pain is persistent over several weeks of walking and
    you have tried walking slower, then you have a problem that
    is not easily remedied by the 'professionals' on the net.
    Time to use up some of that insurance money if you have been
    paying it or hit the piggy bank and drop in on a physician
    that is trained to recognize these symptoms. If you have
    been saving for a rainy day...it is here.

    Pain in that area of muscle is sometimes caused by keeping
    the lower foot too rigid - kind of like lifting the toes up.
    You might be able to mimic the pain by doing that at home
    while watching TV or reading. Flex your foot and toes up
    with your foot heel on the floor and hold it.

    Other than slowing the pace down for several weeks to allow
    the tendon to heal/form AND focusing on relaxing the lower
    foot while striding forward, not much I can recommend. Some
    times a new more rigid shoe will cause some temporary lower
    frontal leg pain.

    You can fill in a loose shoe with inserts. Several boot
    makers (e.g., Vasques) provide 'fillers' from lightweight to
    large-thick to accommodate most loose fitting boots. These
    fillers come as simple pads or include arch support as well.
    You might consider a small, padded heel lift on your short
    side, Sara. Be warned, however, that slight changes like
    that can give you some discomfort or minor pain in all kinds
    of places for a few weeks until everything gets 'adjusted'
    for the new gait and weight distribution.

    Other tricks for different size feet is to cut the toe end
    off ONE of the heavy socks you use. That maimed sock goes on
    the tight fitting foot. Or simply skip the heavy sock on the
    tight foot. So if you get shoes that are just a little
    beyond the comfy side on one side and just a little too
    loose on the other, you have a chance at a better fit.

    For best walking/hiking shoe fit, get fitted in the
    afternoon when your feet normally are the largest from being
    on them all day long. Take two socks - one light weight and
    the other a heavier weight. For hiking boots you should be
    able to stick one or two fingers in between your heel and
    the back of the shoe - when the shoe/boot us unlaced and
    your toe is as far forward as possible. The toe area should
    allow your toes to play the piano in the shoe but plenty of
    mid foot support. When laced up, your foot should not ride
    up and down in the heel area as you walk. Your toes
    definitely should not be able to touch the boot even if you
    give the toe a good kicking whack at a wall.

  7. "Sara" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Hi there - thanks for your response. What I've tenatively
    ruled the cause


    of

    Quoted message said:

    the pain as at this point is this: poor shoes, too much
    too soon, and just walking incorrectly.

    Sorry for the digression and rambling. It does sound
    like we're


    experiencing

    Quoted message said:

    the same pain, though. I thought I was the only one.
    Nice to know


    otherwise.

    Quoted message said:

    Good luck with your search for your cure! I'd be glad if I
    were of any


    help.

    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    PS - I thought this pain was shin splints for awhile,
    but I just looked


    it

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    up online and have changed my mind.

    You are correct, shin splints & walking is just about
    unheard of.

    Shin splints and walking are very rare... but have you
    thought of a muscle hypertonicity, or anterior compartment
    syndrome? Anterior compartment syndrom happens when the
    connective tissue around the front part of your shin for
    some reason becomes tight, or because the muscles are for
    some reason inflamme, and the space in the area becomes
    restricted, and therefore painful. And muscle hypertonicity,
    is just when the muscle is just tight, might have knots in
    it that are making it painful on activity. Just a couple of
    other ideas to explore.

    I will repeat others suggestions... go see your doctor, or a
    physiotherapist, or a good massage therapist, or even a
    schiropedist (sp??).

    M

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  8. You have questions that can best be answered by a physical
    therapist. Spend the money and go see one, they are to
    runners and walkers as a pit crew is to a race car driver.
    It maybe something very simple but they can tell you.

    Jim

    "Sara" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Hi there - This is my first time posting to the group.

    I've been walking on and off for years but the same
    problem returns again and again. The muscle that runs on
    top of the shin, and the outside of the shin bone, starts
    to tense as I warm up. It seems to only get worse as I


    go

    Quoted message said:

    until I can hardly pick my toes off the ground. It's
    pretty painful. I've tried stretching both it and the calf
    muscle extensively before I begin walking and sometimes
    during my walk, again, to no avail. It will


    sometimes

    Quoted message said:

    relax for awhile but I really have to focus on the muscle
    and slow way


    down.

    Quoted message said:

    I get the same pain if I walk on a bumpy chip-rock road or
    a treadmill.


    Does

    Quoted message said:

    anyone have similar pain or have any suggestions? I really
    don't want to stop walking - it's really the only way I'm
    able to stay off my duff.

    You can either reply to the group or email my directly at:
    [email hidden] (remove the NOSPAM and the
    following "."😉

    Thank you!

    Sara

    PS - I thought this pain was shin splints for awhile, but
    I just looked it up online and have changed my mind.
    The pain I have is on top of my shin


    (on

    Quoted message said:

    the outside of the shin bone) while shin splint occur on
    the inside, to my understanding.

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