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  1. Hey,

    The US District Attorney in Los Angeles, CA has opened a
    grand jury investigation in the use of independant
    contractors in professional sports. The suit claims that
    federal minimum wage standards are being circumvented, by
    incorrectly listing the status of athletes in various
    sports, including cyclists registered with UCI Division 3
    Trade Teams. 15th Circuit Court Judge Walter Thompson is
    expected to hear testimony on Friday April 9th, 2004.

    Looks like 12k dreamers on 3rd divison 'pro' teams are
    screwed. Another example of the man keeping them down.

    Good Luck Children. Ronde Chumpion

    GETTING STARTED

    Some companies take advantage of young workers' eagerness

    By JULIE CLAIRE DIOP Your Money staff reporter

    Posted April 4, 2004

    Humorists make a career of mocking incompetent bosses. But
    sometimes mismanagement isn't funny, it's illegal. And it
    hurts working people.

    In fiscal year 2003, the U.S. Department of Labor collected
    $213 million in back wages on behalf of 342,358 employees.
    And these are only the violations that the government
    learned about.

    The Fair Labor Standards Act governs the payment of wages.
    Any employee who works for a company--including a not-for-
    profit company--involved in interstate commerce is protected
    by it. Buying paper clips across state lines can constitute
    interstate commerce, according to Alan Koral, a partner at
    Price, Vedder, Kaufman & Kammholz in New York.

    One way unscrupulous companies (or, giving them the benefit
    of the doubt, ignorant companies) cheat younger workers is
    by wrongly classifying them as interns or contract
    employees.

    Interns, which the Department of Labor classifies as
    "trainees" or as students in "school-to-work" programs,
    don't count as employees. Neither do independent
    contractors.

    To classify workers as trainees and not employees, six
    conditions must be met. They cannot displace regular
    employees, for example, and their employers can receive "no
    immediate advantage" from the trainees' activities.

    Students in school-to-work programs also cannot displace
    regular employees. Yet it's commonplace for employers to
    rely on motivated interns as much as they do on full-time
    employees, and thereby reduce their payrolls.

    Employers do not have to offer independent contractors the
    same benefits that they do to employees because, the
    theory is, they are merely one purchaser of the
    contractor's services.

    Employers break the law, however, when they hire someone as
    an independent contractor yet treat that person the same way
    they treat their employees. Again, six criteria determine if
    an independent contractor is really independent. The
    overriding one, according to Needham, Mass.-based employment
    lawyer Vivian Hsu, is the "control" test. The more control
    an employer has over a worker, the more likely the worker
    should be compensated as an employee.

    Questions to ask: Who decides on the hours worked? Who sets
    the pay? Does the person have other clients?

    Other factors the government looks at include the permanency
    of the employer-worker relationship, whether the worker has
    special skills or performs routine tasks, and how integral
    the person's services are to the employer's business.

    The FLSA site (www.dol.gov/elaws/esa/flsa/scope/ee13.asp) is
    thorough and easy to follow. If you suspect your employer is
    violating federal law, the site will help you understand
    what is and is not allowed. If you feel you need additional
    information, call the contact numbers for your local wage
    and hour divisions, listed on the site. An employment lawyer
    can also be very helpful.

    Straightening out a problem can be as easy as informing your
    employer what the act says. Unfortunately, it can also be
    contentious, and in some cases can cost you your job.

    You may succeed in getting yourself on the payroll and then
    be fired by a boss who has had enough of your trouble. Most
    employees are employed "at-will," which in the broadest
    sense means that they work at the will of their employers.

    About minimum wage

    The federal minimum wage is $5.15. Most states have their
    own minimum-wage laws, and an employer subject to both
    the state and federal minimum-wage laws must pay the
    higher of the two.

    Only a few types of employees don't have to be paid minimum
    wage. They include workers on small farms and seamen on
    foreign vessels. An employer of a worker who regularly
    receives more than $30 a month in tips is only required to
    pay $2.13 an hour in direct wages if that amount plus the
    tips received equals at least the federal minimum wage.

    A special minimum wage of $4.25 an hour applies to employees
    under the age of 20 during their first 90 days of
    employment. After that, they must be paid the full federal
    minimum wage.

    ------------------------

    E-mail Julie Claire Diop at [email hidden].

  2. This issue was discussed here several years ago. The
    conclusion was that most domestic "pros" are hardly better
    off than they would be as amateurs.

    "ronde chumpion" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Hey,

    The US District Attorney in Los Angeles, CA has opened a
    grand jury investigation in the use of independant
    contractors in professional sports. The suit claims that
    federal minimum wage standards are being circumvented, by
    incorrectly listing the status of athletes in various
    sports, including cyclists registered with UCI Division 3
    Trade Teams. 15th Circuit Court Judge Walter Thompson is
    expected to hear testimony on Friday April 9th, 2004.

    Looks like 12k dreamers on 3rd divison 'pro' teams are
    screwed. Another example of the man keeping them down.

    Good Luck Children. Ronde Chumpion

    GETTING STARTED

    Some companies take advantage of young workers' eagerness

    By JULIE CLAIRE DIOP Your Money staff reporter

    Posted April 4, 2004

    Humorists make a career of mocking incompetent bosses. But
    sometimes mismanagement isn't funny, it's illegal. And it
    hurts working people.

    In fiscal year 2003, the U.S. Department of Labor
    collected $213 million in back wages on behalf of 342,358
    employees. And these are only the violations that the
    government learned about.

    The Fair Labor Standards Act governs the payment of wages.
    Any employee who works for a company--including a not-for-
    profit company--involved in interstate commerce is
    protected by it. Buying paper clips across state lines can
    constitute interstate commerce, according to Alan Koral, a
    partner at Price, Vedder, Kaufman & Kammholz in New York.

    One way unscrupulous companies (or, giving them the
    benefit of the doubt, ignorant companies) cheat younger
    workers is by wrongly classifying them as interns or
    contract employees.

    Interns, which the Department of Labor classifies as
    "trainees" or as students in "school-to-work" programs,
    don't count as employees. Neither do independent
    contractors.

    To classify workers as trainees and not employees, six
    conditions must be met. They cannot displace regular
    employees, for example, and their employers can receive
    "no immediate advantage" from the trainees' activities.

    Students in school-to-work programs also cannot displace
    regular employees. Yet it's commonplace for employers to
    rely on motivated interns as much as they do on full-time
    employees, and thereby reduce their payrolls.

    Employers do not have to offer independent contractors the
    same benefits that they do to employees because, the
    theory is, they are merely one purchaser of the
    contractor's services.

    Employers break the law, however, when they hire someone
    as an independent contractor yet treat that person the
    same way they treat their employees. Again, six criteria
    determine if an independent contractor is really
    independent. The overriding one, according to Needham, Mass.-
    based employment lawyer Vivian Hsu, is the "control" test.
    The more control an employer has over a worker, the more
    likely the worker should be compensated as an employee.

    Questions to ask: Who decides on the hours worked? Who
    sets the pay? Does the person have other clients?

    Other factors the government looks at include the
    permanency of the employer-worker relationship, whether
    the worker has special skills or performs routine tasks,
    and how integral the person's services are to the
    employer's business.

    The FLSA site (www.dol.gov/elaws/esa/flsa/scope/ee13.asp)
    is thorough and easy to follow. If you suspect your
    employer is violating federal law, the site will help you
    understand what is and is not allowed. If you feel you
    need additional information, call the contact numbers for
    your local wage and hour divisions, listed on the site. An
    employment lawyer can also be very helpful.

    Straightening out a problem can be as easy as informing
    your employer what the act says. Unfortunately, it can
    also be contentious, and in some cases can cost you
    your job.

    You may succeed in getting yourself on the payroll and
    then be fired by a boss who has had enough of your
    trouble. Most employees are employed "at-will," which in
    the broadest sense means that they work at the will of
    their employers.

    About minimum wage

    The federal minimum wage is $5.15. Most states have their
    own minimum-wage laws, and an employer subject to both the
    state and federal minimum-wage laws must pay the higher of
    the two.

    Only a few types of employees don't have to be paid
    minimum wage. They include workers on small farms and
    seamen on foreign vessels. An employer of a worker who
    regularly receives more than $30 a month in tips is only
    required to pay $2.13 an hour in direct wages if that
    amount plus the tips received equals at least the federal
    minimum wage.

    A special minimum wage of $4.25 an hour applies to
    employees under the age of 20 during their first 90 days
    of employment. After that, they must be paid the full
    federal minimum wage.

    ------------------------

    E-mail Julie Claire Diop at [email hidden].

  3. On 04/06/2004 12:50 AM, in article
    [email hidden], "ronde chumpion"

    Quoted message said:

    Hey,

    The US District Attorney in Los Angeles, CA has opened a
    grand jury investigation in the use of independant
    contractors in professional sports. The suit claims that
    federal minimum wage standards are being circumvented, by
    incorrectly listing the status of athletes in various
    sports, including cyclists registered with UCI Division 3
    Trade Teams. 15th Circuit Court Judge Walter Thompson is
    expected to hear testimony on Friday April 9th, 2004.

    Looks like 12k dreamers on 3rd divison 'pro' teams are
    screwed. Another example of the man keeping them down.

    Nah ... All they need to do is turn them into minimum wage
    employees ($10,712/annum), and then start withholding taxes.

    --
    Steven L. Sheffield stevens at veloworks dot com veloworks
    at worldnet dot ay tea tee dot net bellum pax est libertas
    servitus est ignoratio vis est ess ay ell tea ell ay kay ee
    sea aye tee why you ti ay aitch aitch tee tea pea colon [for
    word] slash [four ward] slash double-you double-yew double-
    ewe dot veloworks dot com [four word] slash

  4. Steven L. Sheffield said:

    Nah ... All they need to do is turn them into minimum
    wage employees ($10,712/annum), and then start
    withholding taxes.

    More likely they would be seasonal so the annual wage would
    be even less.

    Bob Schwartz [email hidden]

  5. Bob Schwartz said:
    Steven L. Sheffield said:

    Nah ... All they need to do is turn them into minimum
    wage employees ($10,712/annum), and then start
    withholding taxes.

    More likely they would be seasonal so the annual wage
    would be even less.


    But even at that they would probably be eligible for
    unemplyment insurance benefits.

    Geez, maybe they could even form squads listing the
    Unemployment Insurance paying agency as a sponsor.

    --
    le Vent a Dos Davey Crockett Six-Day site:
    members.rogers.comsixday.html

  6. ...and workmans compensation when they break a leg in a
    crit.

    Davey Crockett <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:<87ekr1dutp.fsf@cpe000423176ea9-
    cm0f2069983361.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com>...

    Quoted message said:
    Bob Schwartz said:
    Steven L. Sheffield said:

    Nah ... All they need to do is turn them into minimum
    wage employees ($10,712/annum), and then start
    withholding taxes.

    More likely they would be seasonal so the annual wage
    would be even less.


    But even at that they would probably be eligible for
    unemplyment insurance benefits.

    Geez, maybe they could even form squads listing the
    Unemployment Insurance paying agency as a sponsor.

  7. On Tue, 06 Apr 2004 14:44:49 -0000, Bob Schwartz <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Nah ... All they need to do is turn them into minimum
    wage employees ($10,712/annum), and then start
    withholding taxes.

    More likely they would be seasonal so the annual wage would
    be even less.

    Except during the season they would be eligible for
    overtime, or would have to curtail training.

    Curtis L. Russell Odenton, MD (USA) Just someone on
    two wheels...

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