John Kerry: Nice wheels

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Originally posted by Doug Taylor
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P.S. You got a problem with dropping 3K on a bike? Dude,
you have no idea...

Dear Doug,

How can anyone justify paying more than $57.71
for a bicycle, tax included?

Let this be a lesson to those who forget vox populi,
vox dei--he's lost the Roadmaster Fury vote! We vote
for solid worth and gigantic tires from China, not gaudy
frippery from New York.

Indignantly,

Carl Fogel

So what?

Does anybody out there seriously believe that GWB, also born
with a silver spoon in his mouth, is a man of the people?

Mike Yankee

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Does anybody out there seriously believe that GWB,
also born with a silver spoon in his mouth, is a man
of the >people?

Why, yes, I believe that he is a fervent representer of
his people:

<http://www.tarpley.net/bush2.htm>

Would we expect otherwise? --TP

On Mon, 5 Apr 2004 22:27:46 -0400, "Doug Taylor"
<[email hidden]> mumbled incoherently:

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P.S. You got a problem with dropping 3K on a bike? Dude,
you have no idea...

God. To think I was going to vote based on national
defense and the rising economy. Thank God for this
post which made me decide that Kerry's bike purchase
is what is important. I wonder - if John F. Kerry-
Heinz asks his rich wife for a newer bike, if she
would say yes. What a "man".

Cordially, Ken (NY) Chairman, Department Of
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(MikeYankee) said:

So what?

Does anybody out there seriously believe that GWB,
also born with a silver spoon in his mouth, is a man
of the people?

FWIW, GB Sr. didn't make his money until GWB was in his
teens (see if you can find a photo of GWB's boyhood home -
hardly "silver spoon" material). Of course if you're looking
for a poor guy to represent you, you're going to have to
write in on this ballot.

Mark Hickey Habanero Cycles habcycles.comhabcycles.comOpen ↗ Home of
the $695 ti frame

17-Apr-02

PHONY TO THE CORE: The "Ole Family Ranch" in Crawford is a
Set Completed the Same Day the Election was Stolen By
Cheryl Seal

Have you seen all those article and pictures of Bush "at
home on the ranch" in Crawford - the ones that imply that he
is "just an ole ranch hand" more comfortable on the family
homestead than in the "Big City," be it Austin or
D.C.? Well, if you bought this image, you've been royally
snuckered. The Bush family homestead in Crawford is
nothing more than an elaborate set. The house, built in
2000, was designed to be ready for Bush to step into -
like a set awaiting an actor - during the 2000
presidential election. Not only was the "ranch" created
in 2000 - so, essentially, was the "town" of Crawford!
Before then only about 400 people lived in the area. The
Crawford Chamber of Commerce and Agriculture were formed
shortly after the ranch was finished.

The 1,600 acres on which the "ranch" sits was purchased in
1999 for an undisclosed price, but it was a helluva lot less
than the current real estate agents' appraisal of $1.2
million. Yep, worth $1.2 million, but G.W. has a sweet deal
at the tax appraiser's office, where the property is valued
at about $988,000. Oh, and that "homey ole ranch house?"
It's actually a 10,000-square-foot single level
mansion/compound that won't even be 2 years old until this
November! The compound features a swimming pool for
daughters Jenna and Barbara, who apparently loudly demanded
it - the Bushes call it the girls' "Whining pool." Btw - we
hear Bush got a sweet deal on the house construction, (the
cost, of course remains undisclosed): the builders came from
a religious community in El Mott, Texas. The original
completion date of the house was November 7 - election day
2000. In other words, the curtain went up on the set on
schedule for "show time." The very timing of this event
indicates that Bush was absolutely confident that the
election would be successfully engineered in his favor.

The whole idea behind the ranch set, of course, was so that
the public could be treated to footage of Bush seeking a
quiet "retreat" at the family ranch. Americans would thus
assume that the ranch was a rooted family homestead or
compound like the one Kennedy's had in Martha's Vineyard or
FDR had at Campobello. But when Bush retreated into his
"homestead" in November, 2000, he was merely walking onto a
prepared set upon which the paint had barely dried, let
alone even the barest of roots put down! When we see photos
of Bush bombing around the ranch in his leather jacket in
his "ole pickup," supposedly knowing every tree and bush -
it's all pure fantasy! If Bush knows every tree and bush
after actually spending, all told, a total of about 2
months on the ranch (if you put the odd days end to end)
since it was bought, then I''d like to know when he found
time to hold all those endless Crawford press conferences!
Seems to me he'd be way too busy introducing himself to
trees and bushes.

Until Bush and handlers decided that a rural ranch would be
a slick bit of PR for the presidential campaign, Bush had no
interest in a "home on the range." Instead, his preferred
weekend retreat was to the Rainbo Club, an exclusive
lakeside hunting club in Henderson County, about an hour
south of Dallas, much closer to the comforts of Austin. When
a Bush run for president began to look like a pretty good
bet, the 1,600 acres were bought and the Bushes started
making weekend trips to a 60-year-old ranch house that
existed on the property - not of course, before refurbishing
it! - so they could build the "lore" that would take in the
American public, hook, line and sinker.

In an interesting side note - while Bush is anti-
conservation in his presidential policies to please his
corporate pals, in his OWN home, he has installed several
conservation/energy saving features, including solar panels
for heating water, rainwater collection for landscape
irrigation, an air conditioning system that uses groundwater
and a gray water recycling system. The obvious impression
here is that Bush, being all PR show and no substance or
real convictions, wants to cover all the bases. Block
conservation when it is expedient, but have some
conservation "stuff" to show off when that is expedient.

So, in short, we have a "president" who, ON THE SAME DAY -
November 7, 2000 - stole an election and had the last nail
driven into a phony ranch set. But with a completely
snuckered press corps, we also have had a completely
snuckered public. And a platoon of completely snuckered
world leaders, chief among them Blair and Putin, who have
been hosted at the "ole ranch" set and completely taken in.
Alas, the Crawford ranch is a symbol of the utter corporate
phoniness of this administration. The whole scenario reminds
me of those type of sophisticated con artists (like the ones
who recently convinced several investors they could turn
sand into gold! ) who blow into town, rent an upscale office
space just long enough to give them enough credibility to
hoodwink investors. Then, once they have fleeced enough
"marks," they disappear. What makes the Bush case much, much
worse is that I doubt he will disappear.

Additional Notes on "Rancho Boguso" from Bonafide Texans

Apparently Rancho Boguso has done time not just as a small-
time cattle ranch but was once a pig farm as well! And
those horses you see in photos? Window dressing only - Bush
can't ride!!!

Read with interest your article at Democrats.com. Being from
Waco I know well what you say. Crawford first of all is
closer to Waco than the Branch Davidian Compound but this is
never said.

For your information Bush was just given a saddle as a gift
that is now on tour around the state. This saddle is of NO
use to him since he does't ride horses. Ask Vincinte Fox -
who wanted him to go riding on Bush's trip to Mexico.

Another fact is that he doesn't own any of the cattle on
his "ranch". They are the cattle of the previous owner,
who helps run the "Movie Set". He's a cowboy with more hat
than cattle.

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Quoted message said:

So what?

Does anybody out there seriously believe that GWB,
also born with a silver spoon in his mouth, is a man
of the people?

Mike Yankee

(Address is munged to thwart spammers. To reply, delete
everything after "com".)

FWIW, either you have no clue what you are talking about, or
you and Rush are hitting the OxyContin again!

The Bush family fortune was started by George W. Bush's great-
grandfathers, George Herbert Walker and Samuel Bush, both
of whom were financiers, and both of who profited vastly
from rearmament after WWI.

Do a search on Google -- you'll find plenty of links to
articles about the Bush "fortune," Prescott Bush's links to
the Nazi' and his war profiteering, and the Bush family'
links with the so-called "military-industrial" complex, not
to mention Bin Laden.

privilege and advantage having been given to him on a silver
platter, still has proven unable to run a single business
profitably, and is now on the

imaginable.

testament to the fact that we should have huge inheritance
taxes! Without his family foirtune, Shrub would still be a
minimum-wage sales clerk in the sporting goods department at
Sears Roebuck (no offense intended to Sears employees). He
belongs there.

This "President" simply proves the adage that "voting
Republican is easier than thinking!"

Quoted post said:

Originally posted by Doug
FWIW, either you have no clue what you are talking about, or
you and Rush are hitting the OxyContin again!

The Bush family fortune was started by George W. Bush's great-
grandfathers, George Herbert Walker and Samuel Bush, both
of whom were financiers, and both of who profited vastly
from rearmament after WWI.

Do a search on Google -- you'll find plenty of links to
articles about the Bush "fortune," Prescott Bush's links to
the Nazi' and his war profiteering, and the Bush family'
links with the so-called "military-industrial" complex, not
to mention Bin Laden.

privilege and advantage having been given to him on a silver
platter, still has proven unable to run a single business
profitably, and is now on the

imaginable.

testament to the fact that we should have huge inheritance
taxes! Without his family foirtune, Shrub would still be a
minimum-wage sales clerk in the sporting goods department at
Sears Roebuck (no offense intended to Sears employees). He
belongs there.

This "President" simply proves the adage that "voting
Republican is easier than thinking!"

Dear Doug,

After "Bin Laden," you seem to have lost coherence
and dropped a few sentences or paragraphs. Could
you run it through the keyboard again?

Carl Fogel

O.K. I got carried away! But I was actually reserved in
my comments.

;->

"carlfogel" <[email hidden]> wrote in
message "]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Doug said:

FWIW, either you have no clue what you are talking
about, or you and Rush are hitting the OxyContin
again! The Bush family fortune was started by George
W. Bush's great- grandfathers, George Herbert Walker
and Samuel Bush, both of whom

were

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

financiers, and both of who profited vastly from
rearmament after

WWI.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Do a search on Google -- you'll find plenty of links
to articles about the Bush "fortune," Prescott Bush's
links to the Nazi' and his war profiteering, and the
Bush family' links with the so-called "military-
industrial" complex, not to mention Bin Laden.
privilege and advantage having been given to him on a
silver platter, still has proven unable to run a
single business profitably, and is now on the
imaginable. testament to the fact that we should have
huge inheritance taxes! Without his family foirtune,
Shrub would still be a minimum-wage sales clerk in the
sporting goods department at Sears Roebuck (no offense
intended to Sears employees). He belongs there. This
"President" simply proves the adage that "voting
Republican is easier than thinking!"

Dear Doug,

After "Bin Laden," you seem to have lost coherence and
dropped a few sentences or paragraphs. Could you run it
through the keyboard again?

Carl Fogel

--

And this has what to do with bicycles?

<restraining my usual impulses to bash Bush in hopes of not
continuing to be a major contributer to OT-ness. That and I
don't actually like John Kerry very much either. I got no
one to vote for yet again.

Doug' dougjg@REMOVE_THISearthlink.net said:

17-Apr-02

PHONY TO THE CORE: The "Ole Family Ranch" in Crawford is a
Set Completed the Same Day the Election was Stolen By
Cheryl Seal

With a title like that, you can be sure of the absolute
partiality and veracity of the author, huh? ;-)

Quoted message said:

Have you seen all those article and pictures of Bush "at
home on the ranch" in Crawford - the ones that imply that
he is "just an ole ranch hand" more comfortable on the
family homestead than in the "Big City," be it Austin or
D.C.? Well, if you bought this image, you've been royally
snuckered. The Bush family homestead in Crawford is
nothing more than an elaborate set. The house, built in
2000, was designed to be ready for Bush to step into -
like a set awaiting an actor - during the 2000
presidential election. Not only was the "ranch" created
in 2000 - so, essentially, was the "town" of Crawford!
Before then only about 400 people lived in the area.
The Crawford Chamber of Commerce and Agriculture were
formed shortly after the ranch was finished.

<snipped rest of whiny article>

So what? I don't know if any of this is even true, but I
don't recall anyone trying to claim Bush was a "rancher"
before becoming president. Maybe I missed that in his
resume? And it does seem fairly appropriate that the best
place to set up a homestead once you DO become president is
someplace remote - not in a "quiet working class
neighborhood".

And she even misspelled "snookered". Harumph.

Mark Hickey Habanero Cycles habcycles.comhabcycles.comOpen ↗ Home of
the $695 ti frame

Doug' dougjg@REMOVE_THISearthlink.net said:

FWIW, either you have no clue what you are talking about,
or you and Rush are hitting the OxyContin again!

The Bush family fortune was started by George W. Bush's
great-grandfathers, George Herbert Walker and Samuel Bush,
both of whom were financiers, and both of who profited
vastly from rearmament after WWI.

Do a search on Google -- you'll find plenty of links to
articles about the Bush "fortune," Prescott Bush's links to
the Nazi' and his war profiteering, and the Bush family'
links with the so-called "military-industrial" complex, not
to mention Bin Laden.

I don't doubt GB Sr's ancestors had bucks. But after a
stint in the Navy he took a job as a clerk in an oil
company. I know you don't believe me, but do a bit more
research and find a photo of the Bush family home. Then
tell me that's the kind of house that those born with
"silver spoons" grow up in.

<snip rant>

Quoted message said:

Glad to see that you can keep it rational.

Mark Hickey Habanero Cycles habcycles.comhabcycles.comOpen ↗ Home of
the $695 ti frame

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Quoted message said:

Doug' dougjg@REMOVE_THISearthlink.net said:

FWIW, either you have no clue what you are talking about,
or you and Rush are hitting the OxyContin again!

The Bush family fortune was started by George W. Bush's
great-grandfathers, George Herbert Walker and Samuel
Bush, both of whom were financiers, and both of who
profited vastly from rearmament after WWI.

Do a search on Google -- you'll find plenty of links to
articles about the Bush "fortune," Prescott Bush's links
to the Nazi' and his war profiteering, and the Bush
family' links with the so-called "military-industrial"
complex, not to mention Bin Laden.

I don't doubt GB Sr's ancestors had bucks. But after a
stint in the Navy he took a job as a clerk in an oil
company. I know you don't believe me, but do a bit more
research and find a photo of the Bush family home. Then
tell me that's the kind of house that those born with
"silver spoons" grow up in.

<snip rant>

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Glad to see that you can keep it rational.

Mark Hickey Habanero Cycles habcycles.comhabcycles.comOpen ↗ Home
of the $695 ti frame

Could you post a link to a photo of the Prescott Bush's
family home? Thx.

Mark Hickey said:

So what? I don't know if any of this is even true, but
I don't recall anyone trying to claim Bush was a
"rancher" before becoming president. Maybe I missed
that in his resume?

And what a creative resume it must be. The guy just loves
playing dress-up: a fake cowboy on his fake ranch, and a
fake soldier/pilot in front of the fake "Mission
Accomplished" banner on the aircraft carrier. What a phony;
what an utter crock. --dt

Doug,

Howard Dean is out of the race, you can calm down now.

Kyle

"Doug Taylor" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Mark Hickey said:

So what? I don't know if any of this is even true, but I
don't recall anyone trying to claim Bush was a "rancher"
before becoming president. Maybe I missed that in his
resume?

And what a creative resume it must be. The guy just loves
playing dress-up: a fake cowboy on his fake ranch, and a
fake soldier/pilot in front of the fake "Mission
Accomplished" banner on the aircraft carrier. What a
phony; what an utter crock. --dt

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Doug
[B]O.K. I got carried away! But I was actually reserved in
my comments.

;->

"carlfogel" <[email hidden]> wrote in
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Quoted message said:

Doug said:

FWIW, either you have no clue what you are talking
about, or you and Rush are hitting the OxyContin
again! The Bush family fortune was started by George
W. Bush's great- grandfathers, George Herbert Walker
and Samuel Bush, both of whom

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

financiers, and both of who profited vastly from
rearmament after

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Do a search on Google -- you'll find plenty of links
to articles about the Bush "fortune," Prescott Bush's
links to the Nazi' and his war profiteering, and the
Bush family' links with the so-called "military-
industrial" complex, not to mention Bin Laden.
privilege and advantage having been given to him on a
silver platter, still has proven unable to run a
single business profitably, and is now on the
imaginable. testament to the fact that we should have
huge inheritance taxes! Without his family foirtune,
Shrub would still be a minimum-wage sales clerk in the
sporting goods department at Sears Roebuck (no offense
intended to Sears employees). He belongs there. This
"President" simply proves the adage that "voting
Republican is easier than thinking!"

Dear Doug,

After "Bin Laden," you seem to have lost coherence and
dropped a few sentences or paragraphs. Could you run it
through the keyboard again?

Carl Fogel
-- [/B]

Doug said:

FWIW, either you have no clue what you are talking about,
or you and Rush are hitting the OxyContin again!

The Bush family fortune was started by George W. Bush's
great-grandfathers, George Herbert Walker and Samuel
Bush, both of whom were financiers, and both of who
profited vastly from rearmament after WWI.

Do a search on Google -- you'll find plenty of links to
articles about the Bush "fortune," Prescott Bush's links
to the Nazi' and his war profiteering, and the Bush
family' links with the so-called "military-industrial"
complex, not to mention Bin Laden.

This post explains this picture I found of you on the net:

home.kc.rr.comdoug.jpgOpen ↗

--
Scott Johnson / scottjohnson at kc dot rr dot com

Tim McNamara said:

And this has what to do with bicycles?

<restraining my usual impulses to bash Bush in hopes of not
continuing to be a major contributer to OT-ness. That and I
don't actually like John Kerry very much either. I got no
one to vote for yet again.>

A chicken in every pot, and a bike in every garage?

Kyle.B.H said:

Doug,

Howard Dean is out of the race, you can calm down now.

Kyle:

Your mixing me up with the other Doug. I guess that shows
that George Bush is not the only dimwit in the world, eh?

Read the threads carefully before posting and making a fool
out of yourself, why don't you?

--dt