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  1. Antti Salonen <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    In rec.bicycles.tech John Henderson

    Quoted message said:

    I got to wondering about the cause, and thought that I
    might have ridden close to a strong AC magnetic field at
    mains frequency. Since the Australian mains frequency is
    50 Hertz, this could have switched the fork-mounted
    pickup at either 50 or 100 times per second (depending
    on whether both half-cycles did the switching, or only
    one - an AC electromagnet reverses polarity with each
    half-cycle). Given that the computer is configured for a
    wheel circumference of 2050 mm, that gives me a
    switching frequency of 50 Hertz exactly (to 3 decimal
    places) for 369 kph.

    I also have a VDO computer (wireless) and yesterday I
    managed to ride
    565.65 km/h. Can you explain this too? The wheel
    circumference is 2095 mm.

    -as

    Dear Antti,

    I doubt that it's weird Finnish electricity.

    It may have been something other than interference, such as
    a programming glitch deep in the bowels of the speedometer.

    Or the frequency of whatever you rode past might not be 50
    Hz. If John's theory is correct and plain Hertz is all
    that's involved and that's what happened to your
    speedometer, then you need a roughly 76~77 Hz source.

    Or you may have ridden past more than one source of radio
    interference, hitting a spot where out-of-phase waves
    combine to produce a higher overall frequency.

    Or your magnet confused things further.

    Or you are a superhuman but exceptionally modest rider, in
    which case you must let us know what your speedometer reads
    when you are leaping over tall building with a single bound.

    Carl Fogel

  2. Antti, if your circumference is 2095mm, that = 82.48031"

    Try entering in 685.8mm for your circumference and see what
    readings you get.

    Looking at your speed in km/h, that equals 351.4786 mph.
    which might explain the 2095mm circumference? -tom

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    I also have a VDO computer (wireless) and yesterday I
    managed to ride
    565.65 km/h. Can you explain this too? The wheel
    circumference is 2095


    mm.

  3. Tom Nakashima said:

    Antti, if your circumference is 2095mm, that = 82.48031"

    Which seems about right for a road bike with fairly
    narrow tires.

    Quoted message said:


    Try entering in 685.8mm for your circumference and see
    what readings you get.

    Presumably very low ones - this would only be appropriate if
    he has wheels with a diameter of 8.6".

    Quoted message said:


    Looking at your speed in km/h, that equals 351.4786 mph.
    which might explain the 2095mm circumference?

    How? His indicated speed corresponds to a pulse rate of just
    under 75 per second. Too high for common electrical wiring
    but might be caused by multiple bounces of the contact in
    the sensor.

  4. "John Henderson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:
    Antti Salonen said:

    That should be it then. My route went alongside and
    passed a railway several times.

    We really must keep quiet about all this now. Otherwise
    the Americans, led by Carl Fogel himself, will take the
    competitive edge in the next TDF by closely tracking all
    available power lines and railway easements.

    John

    Dear John,

    If you and Antti think that you can frighten the U.S. riders
    off by claiming to pass trains at over 500 kph, think again!

    We've owned the Tour de France for several years now and are
    not afraid of 50/75 Hz Australian-Finnish tactics!

    (Incidentally, why in hell do Finnish train signals use 75
    Hz? Do they use some turn-of-the-century oddball equipment,
    perhaps from back when we weren't sure that alternating
    current was here to stay? Do all train signals use this
    strange current? Jobst is interested in trains, but I'm not
    sure that his interest extends to the signal equipment.)

    Carl Fogel

  5. Carl Fogel said:

    Incidentally, why in hell do Finnish train signals
    use 75 Hz?

    I can only refer you to what I found at wwwtvs.et.tudelft.nlet4
    024/notes/h5.pdf - 75 Hz can be used to "avoid interference
    with the 50 Hz traction current".

    John

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