Spot flash site - most annoying ever!

Why do many small-run companies like Spot never gusset the
headtubes? All major companies do.

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Why do many small-run companies like Spot never gusset the
headtubes? All major companies do.

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What about this?

spotbikes.comdirtjump.htmlOpen ↗

James Calivar said:

It speaks for itself.

spotbikes.comspothome.htmlOpen ↗

Ugh.

Any webmaster that puts music on their home page
should be shot.

Greg

James Calivar said:

It speaks for itself.

spotbikes.comspothome.htmlOpen ↗

Ugh.

Yep. Annoying and difficult to read alright.
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James Calivar said:

It speaks for itself.

spotbikes.comspothome.htmlOpen ↗

Ugh.

Agreed. I've tried to avoid it over the last six months.
Pity, because their frames are really nice.

ZeeExSixAre said:

Why do many small-run companies like Spot never gusset the
headtubes?

I'm no bike builder or engineer, but IME it's usually a sign
of the quality of design and manufacturing. Putting a gusset
in is the cheap way of adding strength to the area.

bomba said:

ZeeExSixAre said:

Why do many small-run companies like Spot never gusset the
headtubes?

I'm no bike builder or engineer, but IME it's usually a
sign of the quality of design and manufacturing. Putting a
gusset in is the cheap way of adding strength to the area.

Keith Bontrager will disagree with you there.

Greg

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It speaks for itself.

spotbikes.comspothome.htmlOpen ↗

Ugh.

Check it out - a reply after I emailed them:

Hey,

Thanks for the e-mail. We are actually doing a complete
rebuild of the site right now and it will not be a flash
site anymore. We have been recieving alot of e-mail from
people about the site - some love
it/some hate it. We appreciate all of the feedback from
everybody.

Check back in a couple of weeks to enjoy the new site.

Thank you,

Michael Golinski Director Spot Brand Components Inc

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ZeeExSixAre said:

Why do many small-run companies like Spot never gusset
the headtubes?

I'm no bike builder or engineer, but IME it's usually a
sign of the quality of design and manufacturing. Putting a
gusset in is the cheap way of adding strength to the area.

Fashion?

Andy Chequer

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Quoted message said:

ZeeExSixAre said:

Why do many small-run companies like Spot never gusset
the headtubes?

I'm no bike builder or engineer, but IME it's usually a
sign of the quality of design and manufacturing. Putting a
gusset in is the cheap way of adding strength to the area.

how is that STA of yours Jon?..

Steve.

spademan o---) * said:

Quoted message said:

I'm no bike builder or engineer, but IME it's usually a
sign of the quality of design and manufacturing.
Putting a gusset in is the cheap way of adding strength
to the area.

how is that STA of yours Jon?..

Flared, actually...

I should have qualified my statement. I was referring to
mountain bikes, as in the ones that are designed for riding
XC. Gussets around the headtube do add extra strength to the
area, however, my point was that it is possible to build an
mtb frame that is sufficiently strong in the headtube /
downtube interface such that a gusset is not required.

You'll find a lot of higher-end HT frames (tinbred, Soul,
Spot, de Kerf, Seven, Sycip, Pastey, Ferrous, etc) don't
have a gusset.

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On Tue, 13 Apr 2004 08:56:00 +0100, spademan o---[)

* said:

Quoted message said:

I'm no bike builder or engineer, but IME it's usually a
sign of the quality of design and manufacturing.
Putting a gusset in is the cheap

way

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of adding strength to the area.

how is that STA of yours Jon?..

Flared, actually...

How the hull did you manage that? Repairable?

Steve.

spademan o---) * said:

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Quoted message said:

how is that STA of yours Jon?..

Flared, actually...

How the hull did you manage that?

Fat [censored] with a knack of trashing stuff(?) I'm not
exactly sure how I did it to be honest. One day I noticed
the headset was loose, and then realised it wasn't the
headset...

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Repairable?

Not without pulling off the headtube and putting on a new
one. It's shimmed at the moment and that seems to be holding
pretty well. Next frame will be T45 with reinforcing rings
round the headtube.

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On Tue, 13 Apr 2004 15:48:21 +0100, spademan o---[)

* said:

Quoted message said:

> how is that STA of yours Jon?..

Flared, actually...

How the hull did you manage that?

Fat [censored] with a knack of trashing stuff(?) I'm not
exactly sure how I did it to be honest. One day I noticed
the headset was loose, and then realised it wasn't the
headset...

Quoted message said:

Repairable?

Not without pulling off the headtube and putting on a new
one. It's shimmed at the moment and that seems to be
holding pretty well.

Saw a bit off the bottom of the HT?

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Next frame will be T45 with reinforcing rings round the
headtube.

Nice. I've been looking at the lighter trails/race version
of the Curtis... Just window shopping though.

Steve.

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How the hull

Heheheheheh!

<wink>

',;~}~

Shaun aRe - Well, I guess Yorkshire was just asking for
it...

spademan o---) * said:

Quoted message said:

Not without pulling off the headtube and putting on a new
one. It's shimmed at the moment and that seems to be
holding pretty well.

Saw a bit off the bottom of the HT?

Hadn't considered that. I suppose if I just took off a
couple of mm then it shouldn't make to much difference to
the angles. Just worried that it might affect the strength
if it's butted, and my DIY skills are notoriously poor.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Next frame will be T45 with reinforcing rings round the
headtube.

Nice. I've been looking at the lighter trails/race version
of the Curtis... Just window shopping though.

The RL? I was contemplating the standard Motocross, or
possibly getting one custom-made through George: --Open ↗
www.gsportbmx.co.uk/custom/friends_bikes/Bens%20bike/ben-
s_home.html

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On Wed, 14 Apr 2004 08:46:58 +0100, spademan o---[)

* said:

Quoted message said:

Not without pulling off the headtube and putting on a
new one. It's shimmed at the moment and that seems to
be holding pretty well.

Saw a bit off the bottom of the HT?

Hadn't considered that. I suppose if I just took off a
couple of mm then it shouldn't make to much difference to
the angles. Just worried that it might affect the strength
if it's butted, and my DIY skills are notoriously poor.

I'm sure I've seen that bodge/remedy in an article by George
F in Ride (UK), you need a steady hand though. Definitely
worth trying if the alternative is to scrap the frame.

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Quoted message said:

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Next frame will be T45 with reinforcing rings round the
headtube.

Nice. I've been looking at the lighter trails/race
version of the Curtis... Just window shopping though.

The RL? I was contemplating the standard Motocross, or
possibly getting one custom-made through George: w-w-Open ↗
ww.gsportbmx.co.uk/custom/friends_bikes/Bens%20bike/bens_-
home.html

hmm, designing your own BMX frame - that could be a
lot of fun...

No plans to change my frame atm, but the Motocross and the
RL seems to have everything in the right place, nice clean
double-diamond frames.

Steve.
p.s. 'Dialled bikes' Mike has been talking about putting
together a BMX frame in Titanium...

spademan o---) * said:

I'm sure I've seen that bodge/remedy in an article by
George F in Ride (UK), you need a steady hand though.
Definitely worth trying if the alternative is to scrap
the frame.

It's not quite that bad yet, and I do have a certain
aversion to taking a hacksaw to 500 quid frame.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

The RL? I was contemplating the standard Motocross, or
possibly getting one custom-made through George: --Open ↗
www.gsportbmx.co.uk/custom/friends_bikes/Bens%20bike/ben-
s_home.html

hmm, designing your own BMX frame - that could be a lot
of fun...

Indeedy.

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No plans to change my frame atm, but the Motocross and the
RL seems to have everything in the right place, nice clean
double-diamond frames.

I'm not planning on changing mine for a while either. See
how things go though.

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Steve.
p.s. 'Dialled bikes' Mike has been talking about putting
together a BMX frame in Titanium...

Hmm, not a bad idea. Let's hope it's better than previous
mtb efforts...

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On Wed, 14 Apr 2004 15:16:48 +0100, spademan o---[)

* said:

I'm sure I've seen that bodge/remedy in an article by
George F in Ride

(UK),

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

you need a steady hand though. Definitely worth trying
if the

alternative is

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

to scrap the frame.

It's not quite that bad yet, and I do have a certain
aversion to taking a hacksaw to 500 quid frame.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

The RL? I was contemplating the standard Motocross, or
possibly getting one custom-made through George:

gsportbmx.co.ukBens%20bikeOpen ↗
/bens_home.html

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

hmm, designing your own BMX frame - that could be a lot
of fun...

Indeedy.

Quoted message said:

No plans to change my frame atm, but the Motocross and
the RL seems to

have

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

everything in the right place, nice clean double-diamond
frames.

I'm not planning on changing mine for a while either. See
how things go though.

Quoted message said:

Steve.
p.s. 'Dialled bikes' Mike has been talking about putting
together a BMX frame in Titanium...

Hmm, not a bad idea. Let's hope it's better than previous
mtb efforts...

I was asking him about it, it sounds interesting but maybe a
bit too race oriented. Shame, I reckon if he would do a
really durable park/trails frame that would be great.

Steve.