Can't wait to hear Big-mouth Boonen says now....

ronde chumpion said:

Two days ago it was Johan and him getting a pass from the
group and riding into the velodrome hand-in-hand.

22 year olds don't get to lead. This is part of why.

He is getting a bit full of himself in very short order...at
least George nipped him at the end.

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ronde chumpion said:

Two days ago it was Johan and him getting a pass from
the group and riding into the velodrome hand-in-hand.

22 year olds don't get to lead. This is part of why.

He is getting a bit full of himself in very short
order...at least George nipped him at the end.

big mouth or no big mouth, Boonen will winn a classic sooner
than Hincapie.

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big mouth or no big mouth, Boonen will winn a classic
sooner than

Hincapie.

Always good to see those who know what's going to happen
before it does. Especially since it's history.

Obviously Kenny is already wrong...

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Two days ago it was Johan and him getting a pass from
the group and riding into the velodrome hand-in-hand.

22 year olds don't get to lead. This is part of why.

He is getting a bit full of himself in very short
order...at least

George

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nipped him at the end.

big mouth or no big mouth, Boonen will winn a classic
sooner than

Hincapie.

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Obviously Kenny is already wrong...

I suppose not obvious to Kenny!

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On Sun, 11 Apr 2004 08:48:26 -0700, ronde chumpion
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> Two days ago it was Johan and him getting a pass
> from the group and riding into the velodrome hand-in-
> hand.
>
> 22 year olds don't get to lead. This is part of why.

He is getting a bit full of himself in very short
order...at least

George

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nipped him at the end.

big mouth or no big mouth, Boonen will winn a classic
sooner than

Hincapie.

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big mouth or no big mouth, Boonen will winn a classic
sooner than

Hincapie.

Always good to see those who know what's going to happen
before it does. Especially since it's history.

Explain. Or are you mentioning Gent-Wevelgem? I'm sorry i
had to be more specific: by classic i meant Worldcup-race. I
know you Americans make these strictly distinct categories
classic, Semi-classic, WC race, Monument, etc. Over here
this distinction is not so strictly defined.

Kenny said:

I'm sorry i had to be more specific: by classic i meant
Worldcup-race.

Not every world cup race is a classic in the same
sense! Are you saying Hamburg is just as much a classic
as Paris-Roubaix? Or how about Zürich with its constant
course changes?

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I know you Americans make these strictly distinct
categories classic, Semi-classic, WC race, Monument, etc.
Over here this distinction is not so strictly defined.

Huh? Yes it is.

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Kenny said:

I'm sorry i had to be more specific: by classic i meant
Worldcup-race.

Not every world cup race is a classic in the same sense!
Are you saying Hamburg is just as much a classic as Paris-
Roubaix? Or how about Zürich with its constant course
changes?

I think he just oversaw Hincapie's Wevelgem win, and is now
talking himself out of it. Because, as Kenny knows, here in
Flanders we call Wevelgem definitely a classic.

Van Hoorebeeck Bart said:

Because, as Kenny knows, here in Flanders we call Wevelgem
definitely a classic.

Not Wuyts though, he said semi-klassieker.

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Because, as Kenny knows, here in Flanders we call
Wevelgem definitely a classic.

Not Wuyts though, he said semi-klassieker.

ridiculous, semi-klassieker is for Harelbeke, Brabantse etc.
Well who is Wuyts anyway. Some teacher with midlife crisis
who turned to cycling commentary. Can't even hold De
Cauwer's wheel these days ;-)

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Kenny said:

I'm sorry i had to be more specific: by classic i
meant Worldcup-race.

Not every world cup race is a classic in the same sense!
Are you saying Hamburg is just as much a classic as Paris-
Roubaix? Or how about Zürich with its constant course
changes?

I think he just oversaw Hincapie's Wevelgem win, and is
now talking

himself

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out of it. Because, as Kenny knows, here in Flanders we
call Wevelgem \ definitely a classic.

Now I'm getting lost. Perhaps it's in the translation:

Hincapie HAS won a classic - Gent in 2001. Tom Boonen is
without a doubt a talented rider whom will probably be
more successful in the future is the VDB-itis doesn't get
him first.

Arguing that a classic isn't a world cup classic is sort of
pointless since the world cup will be redesigned next year
won't it? At that point Gent WILL be a world cup classic.
And the race won't change a bit.

After reading Jesus telling us that all of the drugs caused
depression, it sort of makes the actions VDB, Pantani and
Jimenez come into sharper focus.

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ridiculous, semi-klassieker is for Harelbeke, Brabantse
etc. Well who is Wuyts anyway. Some teacher with midlife
crisis who turned to cycling commentary. Can't even hold
De Cauwer's wheel these days ;-)

Probably couldn't hold Schote's either.

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Kenny said:

I'm sorry i had to be more specific: by classic i
meant Worldcup-race.

Not every world cup race is a classic in the same sense!
Are you saying Hamburg is just as much a classic as Paris-
Roubaix? Or how about Zürich with its constant course
changes?

I think he just oversaw Hincapie's Wevelgem win, and is
now talking himself out of it. Because, as Kenny knows,
here in Flanders we call Wevelgem definitely a classic.

Wevelgem isn't nearly is selective as Flanders, Liege,
Roubaix, Fleche, Amstel. Even Growmont won it once.

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On 13 Apr 2004 06:31:50 -0700, Kenny wrote:
> I'm sorry i had to be more specific: by classic i
> meant Worldcup-race.

Not every world cup race is a classic in the same
sense! Are you saying Hamburg is just as much a
classic as Paris-Roubaix? Or how about Zürich with its
constant course changes?

I think he just oversaw Hincapie's Wevelgem win, and is
now talking himself out of it. Because, as Kenny knows,
here in Flanders we call Wevelgem definitely a classic.

Wevelgem isn't nearly is selective as Flanders, Liege,
Roubaix, Fleche, Amstel. Even Growmont won it once.

So? A classic doesn't have to be as selective as Flanders
etc. I like Milan-Sanremo and Paris-Tours too, even though
guys like Colombo and Minali won it.