wind techniques ??

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Jacobe Hazzard said:

Too bad I don't drink beer or eat sausages. Or live in
Denmark. Otherwise it could have been good.

Drink a bottle of Akvavit and stomp on your neighbor's
flowers, it's the next best thing to being there.

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Wed, 21 Apr 2004 00:06:17 GMT, <ZVihc.36863$ru4.35439@attbi_s52>,

Claire Petersky said:

"Dane Jackson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:enagl1-
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Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Give thanks and acknowledgement to the tail winds you
do get.

Our Father, who art in velodrome, Hallowed be thy chain.

\snip

Quoted message said:

I only knew the Mountain bikers' Version:

Our Father, which art in Moab,

\snip

Now way out here they have a name for rain and wind and fire
The rain is Tess, the fire's Joe and they call the wind
Maria Maria blows the star around and sets the clouds a-
flyin' Maria makes the mountains sound like folks was out
there dyin'

Maria, Maria

They call the wind Maria
. . .
- Frederick Loewe & Alan Jay Lerner
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Zoot Katz said:

They call the wind Maria

That's "Mariah" (muh-RYE-uh), not Maria (mu-REE-uh).
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Terry Morse said:

Zoot Katz said:

They call the wind Maria

That's "Mariah" (muh-RYE-uh), not Maria (mu-REE-uh).
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please. stop. 1969. burning. ears.

ob.r.b.m: i call the wind prairie dirt stuck in my teeth.

It's very windy in illinois dotay, but i think i don't
want to get whacked by a T-storm in the middle of nowhere,
or sucked away by a tornado, ala 'zardoz, so i'm going to
stay here.

.max which is when my 2nd grade sister, mariah, got the
damn record.

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Moi worte:

Quoted message said:

It's very windy in illinois dotay, but i think i don't
want to get whacked by a T-storm [...] or sucked away by a
tornado,

This got me to thinking...

I have two bikes - a commuting-rigged MTB, with a big
blackburn rack and bungies etc, and a road bike (trek 1220)
w/ only water, computer and seat bag, i.e. no rack.

One of my issues with road rides on days like today -- very
threatening weather, quite windy -- is that i really hate
getting stuck in BuFu w/o weather gear. But I also hate
riding w/ a backpack or courrier bag, at least for more than
10~20 miles.

So, how many of you have put racks on the back of your road
bikes, specifically so you can extend your foul weather
radius? Part of me thinks it's like putting curb feelers on
a Porsche. I suppose i could yank it off when i wasn't using
it.... On the plus side, i s'pose it could dramatically
extend my self-supported ride range, esp on those 100+ F
summer days...

.max

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[email hidden] says...

Quoted message said:

Moi worte:

Quoted message said:

It's very windy in illinois dotay, but i think i don't
want to get whacked by a T-storm [...] or sucked away by
a tornado,

This got me to thinking...

I have two bikes - a commuting-rigged MTB, with a big
blackburn rack and bungies etc, and a road bike (trek
1220) w/ only water, computer and seat bag, i.e. no rack.

One of my issues with road rides on days like today --
very threatening weather, quite windy -- is that i really
hate getting stuck in BuFu w/o weather gear. But I also
hate riding w/ a backpack or courrier bag, at least for
more than 10~20 miles.

A large [censored] pack will often serve to carry a crushable
windbreaker, rain jacket or something similar, and is a lot
more comfortable than even the smallest back pack.

Quoted message said:

So, how many of you have put racks on the back of your
road bikes, specifically so you can extend your foul
weather radius? Part of me

I do.

Quoted message said:

thinks it's like putting curb feelers on a Porsche. I
suppose i could

Except that a rack actually helps something <GGG>.

Quoted message said:

yank it off when i wasn't using it.... On the plus side, i
s'pose it could dramatically extend my self-supported ride
range, esp on those 100+ F summer days...

For water/drink? You can get double bottle holders which
attach directly to the back of your saddle, and your wedgie
bag will carry a few snacks.

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Max said:

One of my issues with road rides on days like today --
very threatening weather, quite windy -- is that i really
hate getting stuck in BuFu w/o weather gear. But I also
hate riding w/ a backpack or courrier bag, at least for
more than 10~20 miles.

So, how many of you have put racks on the back of your
road bikes, specifically so you can extend your foul
weather radius? Part of me thinks it's like putting curb
feelers on a Porsche. I suppose i could yank it off when i
wasn't using it.... On the plus side, i s'pose it could
dramatically extend my self-supported ride range, esp on
those 100+ F summer days...

Raingear should fit in a large underseat bag w/ no
problem. You can get some really lightweight, crushable
rain gear these days. If it's warm out, you probably don't
need rain pants.

I hate that you can't put racks or fenders on most modern
bikes. It's not too difficult to take them off and on, and
it's sure handy when you need them. There's no downside to a
little more clearance and a few eyelets, other than going
against minimalist style. I guess it's a good opportunity to
sell you another bike, when you discover you'd like to have
this stuff!

Matt O.

On Wed, 21 Apr 2004 18:27:31 GMT, Max <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

One of my issues with road rides on days like today -- very
threatening weather, quite windy -- is that i really hate
getting stuck in BuFu w/o weather gear. But I also hate
riding w/ a backpack or courrier bag, at least for more
than 10~20 miles.

Quoted message said:

So, how many of you have put racks on the back of your road
bikes, specifically so you can extend your foul weather
radius? Part of me thinks it's like putting curb feelers on
a Porsche. I suppose i could yank it off when i wasn't
using it.... On the plus side, i s'pose it could
dramatically extend my self-supported ride range, esp on
those 100+ F summer days...

I'm going to put a rack on my road bike; see this recent
thread: groups.google.comgroupsOpen ↗
tfg94o1imvddvq8c7qc6a49l%404ax.com

I expect to leave the rack on and remove the basket when I
don't think I'll use it.
--
Rick Onanian

Max said:

So, how many of you have put racks on the back of your
road bikes, specifically so you can extend your foul
weather radius? Part of me

I've got racks on all three of my bikes: 2 road bikes
and 1 MTB.

Of course one of the road bikes is a touring bike, so isn't
at all a Porsche with curb feelers, but my Trek 2000
probably is.

The rack on that bike is a very light duty one. The older
kind with the mouse trap sort of swing door on top to help
lock in whatever you're carrying.

When I do a long distance group ride over several days, I'll
even put a rack trunk on it. Very much the Porsche with curb
feelers then.

I don't actually have to have the rack for general, local
"joy" use. I have one of those foul weather jackets/pants
that roll up into their own pockets, and can then be clipped
around your waist like a [censored] pack.

But I really don't like things attached to me while I
ride, and I end up wedging it under the trap door of the
rack anyways.

I don't see any problem with doing this. But then, I'm
very much a "Fred", with bike style opinions deserving
of derision.

SMH

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...

Quoted message said:

I don't actually have to have the rack for general, local
"joy" use. I have one of those foul weather jackets/pants
that roll up into their own pockets, and can then be
clipped around your waist like a [censored] pack.

But I really don't like things attached to me while I
ride, and I end up wedging it under the trap door of the
rack anyways.

I don't see any problem with doing this. But then, I'm
very much a "Fred", with bike style opinions deserving of
derision.

So you would be welcome in our "Team Fred". Now if I could
just find a good club jersey for it <GGG>.

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"Max" <[email hidden]> wrote

Quoted message said:

So, how many of you have put racks on the back of your
road bikes, specifically so you can extend your foul
weather radius? Part of me thinks it's like putting curb
feelers on a Porsche. I suppose i could yank it off when i
wasn't using it.... On the plus side, i s'pose it could
dramatically extend my self-supported ride range, esp on
those 100+ F summer days...

You can get Q/R-equipped seatpost racks that are good for 25
lb. You can also get bags that attach to the saddle
directly. I leave my fenders on all the time, and add a
seatpost rack when I'm doing distance.

One tip not mentioned so far:

Learn the skills necessary to safely ride in a paceline, and
then take a few friends along to "share the work".

Chris Neary [email hidden]

"Science, freedom, beauty, adventure: what more could you
ask of life? Bicycling combined all the elements I loved" -
Adapted from a quotation by Charles Lindbergh

Claire Petersky said:

I only knew the Mountain bikers' Version:

Our Father, which art in Moab, Mountain Bike be Thy name.
To Thy trailheads we come, Thy maintenance be done, On
fire road As it is on singletrack. Give us this day our
daily ride, And forgive us our trespasses As we forgive
those that trespass on us.

<snip>

It's good to see they managed to do something with the
trespass line. I tried for a decently long while, and
couldn't figure out anything to do with it that was better
than leaving it alone.

--
Dane Jackson - z u v e m b i @ u n i x b i g o t s . o r g
"2) Users don't know what they really want, but they know
for certain what they don't want."
- Manubay's Laws for Programmers

Max said:

So, how many of you have put racks on the back of your
road bikes, specifically so you can extend your foul
weather radius?

Well, I don't have a "road" (racing) bike. I do most of my
recreational riding on my touring bike.

That said, I've got handlebar bags on almost every bike I
own. They take care of rain gear stowage, plus snacks, maps,
tools, extra clothes, and most anything else I might want to
carry. (Camera, notepad, binoculars, rocks...)

Oddly, the touring bike is the only one _without_ a rear
rack. I've got them on my commuter, my mountain bike, our
tandem, & the folder. Oh, I forgot - the seldom-used antique
is naked. No bags, no racks.

One riding buddy of mine was notorious for showing up for a
ride on his new racing bike, then asking others (usually me)
to carry his jacket. Eventually, the ribbing he endured got
him to install at least a seat bag. Funny thing is, his
belly weighed many times what a rack would!

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