Why is the Mavic website so crappy?

Marty Wallace said:

How many customers is Mavic losing because of it's poor
website? It's difficult to find info and doesn't seem to
work most of the time. C'mon Mavic, lift your game!

It is moderately crappy (I've seen far worse). My pet peeve
is that all these manufacturers sites don't have decent info
on the products they sell. Would if f'ing kill them to have
the ERD of a rim on their site?

--
Dane Jackson - z u v e m b i @ u n i x b i g o t s . o r g
"Americans are broad-minded people. They'll accept the fact
that a person can be an alcoholic, a dope fiend, a wife
beater, and even a newspaperman, but if a man doesn't drive
there's something wrong with him." Art Buchwald

"Dane Jackson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Marty Wallace said:

How many customers is Mavic losing because of it's poor
website? It's difficult to find info and doesn't seem to
work most of the time.

C'mon

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Mavic, lift your game!

It is moderately crappy (I've seen far worse). My pet
peeve is that all these manufacturers sites don't have
decent info on the products they sell. Would if f'ing kill
them to have the ERD of a rim on their site?

I wanted to know the width of a rim but no they don't have
that either, so I've ordered a Velocity rim instead.

Marty

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Dane Jackson - z u v e m b i @ u n i x b i g o t s . o r g
"Americans are broad-minded people. They'll accept the
fact that a person can be an alcoholic, a dope fiend, a
wife beater, and even a newspaperman, but if a man doesn't
drive there's something wrong with

him."

Quoted message said:

Art Buchwald

Dane Jackson said:

Marty Wallace <[email hidden]> wrote:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

How many customers is Mavic losing because of it's poor
website? It's difficult to find info and doesn't seem to
work most of the time. C'mon Mavic, lift your game!

It is moderately crappy (I've seen far worse). My pet
peeve is that all these manufacturers sites don't have
decent info on the products they sell. Would if f'ing kill
them to have the ERD of a rim on their site?

Dude, what's "mm" stand for? Oh, an' check this Flash thing
I did out, it's

Matt O.

Matt O'Toole said:

Dane Jackson said:

It is moderately crappy (I've seen far worse). My pet
peeve is that all these manufacturers sites don't have
decent info on the products they sell. Would if f'ing
kill them to have the ERD of a rim on their site?

Dude, what's "mm" stand for? Oh, an' check this Flash
thing I did out, it's

What? You mean everyone doesn't have Flash 7.01 installed?
Pffft! We shouldn't even let lowlifes like that past the
index page!

Badger, Badger, Badger, Badger. Mushroom! Mushroom!

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The only "intuitive" interface is the nipple. After that,
it's all learned. (Bruce Ediger, [email hidden], in
comp.os.linux.misc, on X interfaces.)

On Tue, 27 Apr 2004 11:03:22 -0700, Dane Jackson <[email hidden]>

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Badger, Badger, Badger, Badger. Mushroom! Mushroom!

Badgers? Badgers?! We don't need no stinking badgers!!
--
Rick Onanian

"Marty Wallace" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

How many customers is Mavic losing because of it's poor
website? It's difficult to find info and doesn't seem to
work most of the time.

C'mon

Quoted message said:

Mavic, lift your game!

Marty

That's nothin' ... this web site will cause brain damage:

lookin.itlookin.itOpen ↗

For the Selle Royal "Look In" saddles. Mavic is nothing
compared to those clowns. Jesh, alls I wanted to know was
what color the inside ... the "Look In" color ... was for
the blue and white saddles. A picture, that's all I asked
for. Give me some info, not some art students pathetic
attempt at creativity. Hey, you kid who made the Look In
site ... STAY AWAY FROM THE BROWN ACID!!!

C.Q.C.

"Dane Jackson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Marty Wallace said:

How many customers is Mavic losing because of it's poor
website? It's difficult to find info and doesn't seem to
work most of the time.

C'mon

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Mavic, lift your game!

It is moderately crappy (I've seen far worse). My pet
peeve is that all these manufacturers sites don't have
decent info on the products they sell. Would if f'ing kill
them to have the ERD of a rim on their site?

--
Dane Jackson - z u v e m b i @ u n i x b i g o t s . o r g

If you have the flash plug-in installed, is it possible to
turn off the on-demand function? In other words, can you
decide manually with a site gets to use flash or not?

Bestest Handsander said:

"Dane Jackson" <[email hidden]> wrote :

Quoted message said:

It is moderately crappy (I've seen far worse). My pet
peeve is that all these manufacturers sites don't have
decent info on the products they sell. Would if f'ing
kill them to have the ERD of a rim on their site?

If you have the flash plug-in installed, is it possible to
turn off the on-demand function? In other words, can you
decide manually with a site gets to use flash or not?

Yes, Flashblock adds a binding to Shockwave Flash object
tags that replaces them with a button you must click in
order to play the animation. Very handy for keeping your
browsing from being overrun with all the shiny/flashy stuff.

texturizer.netextensionsOpen ↗

You of course need to be using Firefox or Mozilla to use
this.

But then, noone should be using IE unless they *enjoy* the
[censored] popups and every ActiveX control in existence trying to
install spyware.

--
Dane Jackson - z u v e m b i @ u n i x b i g o t s . o r g

that's not why we're doing it." -- Richard Feynman

On Tue, 27 Apr 2004 06:28:15 -0700, Dane Jackson <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Marty Wallace said:

How many customers is Mavic losing because of it's poor
website? It's difficult to find info and doesn't seem to
work most of the time. C'mon Mavic, lift your game!

It is moderately crappy (I've seen far worse). My pet peeve
is that all these manufacturers sites don't have decent
info on the products they sell. Would if f'ing kill them to
have the ERD of a rim on their site?

Perhaps a few emails to the "technical contact" listed for
their domain registration might help. A NetworkSolutions
"whois" finds mavic.com is registered to Salomon SA. The
contact is: [email hidden]

jeverett3<AT>earthlink<DOT>net
home.earthlink.net~jeverett3Open ↗

Bestest Handsander said:

If you have the flash plug-in installed, is it possible to
turn off the on-demand function? In other words, can you
decide manually with a site gets to use flash or not?

In Opera, you just hit the 'F12' key, and it pops up a menu
allowing you to enable/disable things like pop-up windows,
images, gif animation, plug-ins, cookies, and also allows
you to change how the browser identifies it's self (good for
sites that say you must use internet explorer).
--
Rick Onanian

John Everett said:

Perhaps a few emails to the "technical contact" listed for
their domain registration might help. A NetworkSolutions
"whois" finds mavic.com is registered to Salomon SA. The
contact is: [email hidden]

My current attitude about that is to let 'em suffer. If
they're too stupid to figure this stuff out for themselves,
they don't deserve our business.

Matt O.

John Everett said:

Perhaps a few emails to the "technical contact" listed for
their domain registration might help. A NetworkSolutions
"whois" finds mavic.com is registered to Salomon SA. The
contact is: [email hidden]

technical contact would be the wrong place .. you'd probably
just get whoever is hosting their DNS which may (or more
likely not) also be whoever is hosting their web content
which may (and most likely not) be whoever is in charge of
the actual content.

your best bet is probably [email hidden].
--
david reuteler [email hidden]

John Everett said:

Dane Jackson said:

Marty Wallace said:

How many customers is Mavic losing because of it's poor
website? It's difficult to find info and doesn't seem
to work most of the time. C'mon Mavic, lift your game!

It is moderately crappy (I've seen far worse). My pet
peeve is that all these manufacturers sites don't have
decent info on the products they sell. Would if f'ing
kill them to have the ERD of a rim on their site?

Perhaps a few emails to the "technical contact" listed for
their domain registration might help. A NetworkSolutions
"whois" finds mavic.com is registered to Salomon SA. The
contact is: [email hidden]

Oh sweet Jesus. I went to the Salomon site when I got some
new (to me) skis and gave up before I found anything useful.
I think I even emailed them -- I try to do that whenever a
site that I really wanted to get information from lets me
down. Try to find the address of the marketing department,
not the webmaster :-)

--
Cheers, Bev
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"If the Eskimos have a thousand different words for "snow,"
does this
mean the French have a thousand different words for
"surrender?"

David Reuteler said:

John Everett

Quoted message said:

Perhaps a few emails to the "technical contact" listed
for their domain registration might help. A
NetworkSolutions "whois" finds mavic.com is registered
to Salomon SA. The contact is: dn_tech@salomon-
sports.com

technical contact would be the wrong place .. you'd
probably just get whoever is hosting their DNS which may
(or more likely not) also be whoever is hosting their web
content which may (and most likely not) be whoever is in
charge of the actual content.

your best bet is probably [email hidden].

Why should the webmaster do anything but [censored] your
letter? Complain to the marketing department, they take this
stuff seriously.

--
Cheers, Bev
-----------------------------------------------------------
----------
"If the Eskimos have a thousand different words for "snow,"
does this
mean the French have a thousand different words for
"surrender?"

The Real Bev said:

Why should the webmaster do anything but [censored] your
letter? Complain to the marketing department, they take
this stuff seriously.

problem with that is that the email for the marketing
department isn't always easy to find and changes across
companies.
--
david reuteler [email hidden]

The Real Bev said:

David Reuteler said:

John Everett

Quoted message said:

Perhaps a few emails to the "technical contact" listed
for their domain registration might help. A
NetworkSolutions "whois" finds mavic.com is registered
to Salomon SA. The contact is: dn_tech@salomon-
sports.com

technical contact would be the wrong place .. you'd
probably just get whoever is hosting their DNS which may
(or more likely not) also be whoever is hosting their web
content which may (and most likely not) be whoever is in
charge of the actual content.

your best bet is probably [email hidden].

Why should the webmaster do anything but [censored] your
letter? Complain to the marketing department, they take
this stuff seriously.

There's always snailmail:

Mavic France Mavic S.A. Metz-Tessy 74996 ANNECY Cédex 9

Mavic USA Mavic Inc. 17 Parkridge Road Haverhill, MA 01835

jeverett3<AT>earthlink<DOT>net
home.earthlink.net~jeverett3Open ↗

On 29 Apr 2004 05:09:21 GMT, David Reuteler <[email hidden]> wrote
in message <[email hidden]>:

Quoted message said:

problem with that is that the email for the marketing
department isn't always easy to find and changes across
companies.

info@ usually comes up with some sort of response, though.

--
Guy
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posting. chapmancentral.co.ukchapmancentral.co.ukOpen ↗

88% of helmet statistics are made up, 65% of them at
Washington University

Marty Wallace said:

How many customers is Mavic losing because of it's poor
website? It's difficult to find info and doesn't seem to
work most of the time. C'mon Mavic, lift your game!

Marty

I don't like to be simplistic but I must note that Mavic is
a French company, and many French companies have not yet
realized that they can (and are expected to !) do more on
the internet than just post a few ads.

The detail that is baffling me on this site is the "dealers
only" technical pages.

Jacques

The Real Bev <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

Quoted message said:

David Reuteler said:

John Everett <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Perhaps a few emails to the "technical contact" listed
for their domain registration might help. A
NetworkSolutions "whois" finds mavic.com is registered
to Salomon SA. The contact is: dn_tech@salomon-
sports.com

technical contact would be the wrong place .. you'd
probably just get whoever is hosting their DNS which may
(or more likely not) also be whoever is hosting their
web content which may (and most likely not) be whoever
is in charge of the actual content.

your best bet is probably [email hidden].

Why should the webmaster do anything but [censored] your
letter? Complain to the marketing department, they take
this stuff seriously.

I second this notion. As a webmaster, I am always trying to
fend off the marketing department at my company. They
constantly want me to do Flash, pop-ups, registration forms
with cookies, and everything else annoying known to web-
surfing humanity. And, to make it worse, our audience is
primarily technical, so the web garbage becomes even less
palatable. Send your complaint to the marketing department
(try [email hidden] to start). It will hopefully spare
their webmaster from having to make the web site even more
full of useless, flashy [censored].

I also agree that the Mavic site is good for little more
than marketing hype. There is little useful technical
information there. But, if you like flashy stuff, I guess
it's all right.

-Sarah