delurk

(James) said:

Travelling home tonight, in the home straight when I see a
car on the left waiting to turn right across my path. He
proceeds to pull out, and pause halfway across my lane, I
shout and start to brake but unfortunately the car decides
to pull out again completely blocking my path.

sorry tale snipped.

That's a wierd story. The collision is such that your bike
is wrecked and his windscreen is smashe. Yet he drives off
and hides in the full knowledge that you know where he's
gone and the police are en route.

On the one hand I'd like to think that the police would
treat this as failure to report (ie more serious than
merely hitting a poxy cyclist). On the other, it's
disappointing to see that they made no attempt to pursue
the bloke at the time.

Quoted message said:

Morals of this story

[1] If you get knocked off, get hold of the other party,
physically, and don't let them go anywhere (sounds
obvious doesn't it)
[2] Don't mention the P word
[3] When you join CTC (as I have) make sure you choose the
EXTRA insurance which covers accidental damage [3b] Do
the above.. now
[4] When you wake up in the morning and don't quite feel
like cycling, don't, it might save your bike from being
smashed up on the way home.

Well, luckily, I'm fine. Anyone want a Trek1000
Spares/Repair? Hello from james

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Not Responding said:

That's a wierd story. The collision is such that your bike
is wrecked and his windscreen is smashe. Yet he drives off
and hides in the full knowledge that you know where he's
gone and the police are en route.

My money is him being [censored] at the time.

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Anyway, police have taken details etc.. going to the gp
tomorrow for a checkup and wait for their call..

Welcome out of lurk. Glad you seem to be basically OK. Could
you please keep us posted on the developments in this case?

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Quoted message said:

Travelling home tonight, in the home straight when I see a
car on the left waiting to turn right across my path. He
proceeds to pull out, and pause halfway across my lane, I
shout and start to brake but unfortunately the car decides
to pull out again completely blocking my path.

/Repair?

Quoted message said:

Hello from james

Glad you're not too badly injured James. Hope you get
sorted re new bike.

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Quoted message said:

Not Responding said:

That's a wierd story. The collision is such that your
bike is wrecked and his windscreen is smashe. Yet he
drives off and hides in the full knowledge that you know
where he's gone and the police are en route.

My money is him being [censored] at the time.

I'd agree with that. I'm rapidly coming round to think Dave
Larrington's idea is right, knock 'em on the head an burn
the bodies.

E

Speaking of injuries...

Page 17 of this week's comic

"Don't miss the claims deadline"

Apparently under the new regs - hit & run incidents.

Incidents must be reported to the police within strict time
limits if you are to pursue a claim. Property damage must be
reported within 5 days, and personal injuries within 14
days. Victims MUST also be able to produce a written receipt
from the police, complete with a crime number, as proof of
the report. See the full report fro details - not available
online as far as I can tell.

Cheers, helen s

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dirtylitterboxofferingstospammers (') said:

Speaking of injuries...

Page 17 of this week's comic

"Don't miss the claims deadline"

Apparently under the new regs - hit & run incidents.

Incidents must be reported to the police within strict
time limits if you are to pursue a claim. Property damage
must be reported within 5 days, and personal injuries
within 14 days.

So if, as a consequence of an accident, you're in a coma for
fifteen days, there's no compensation?

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Quoted message said:

Incidents must be reported to the police within strict
time limits if you are to pursue a claim. Property
damage must be reported within 5 days, and personal
injuries within 14 days.

So if, as a consequence of an accident, you're in a coma
for fifteen days, there's no compensation?

I think if you were *that* badly injured the police
would become involved by default. When our lass was
taken to hospital in an ambulance after she hit a car on
a roundabout, the police turned up at the infirmary
without anyone reporting it, as the ambulance crew
liaise with the plod.

--
Simon M.

[cycle/car incident snipped]

Quoted message said:

[1] If you get knocked off, get hold of the other party,
physically, and don't let them go anywhere (sounds
obvious doesn't it)
[2] Don't mention the P word
[3] When you join CTC (as I have) make sure you choose the
EXTRA insurance which covers accidental damage [3b] Do
the above.. now
[4] When you wake up in the morning and don't quite feel
like cycling, don't, it might save your bike from
being smashed up on the way home.

Well, luckily, I'm fine. Anyone want a Trek1000
Spares/Repair?

Glad you're OK; hope you still feel that way in the morning.

I've thought many a time when reading - and experiencing -
accounts like this, that it could be really good to have a
Handy Guide to What to Do after an Incident in your pocket.
There is so much expertise on this NG, that it must be
possible to put something sensible and helpful together that
could be printed out and carried on an A6 card. When you are
involved in an incident, the adrenalin rush can push
rational thoughts out of your mind; and it's not a good time
to start wondering if there is an obligation to notify the
police or forgetting to get witnesses' addresses.

Obviously there's a lot of ad hoc advice appearing all the
time, but I've never seen it codified.

It would have to be legally sound and morally defensible!

Anyone like to suggest praps 6 key points? We could haggle.

best wishes to James again

Alan

On 29/4/04 8:38 pm, in article [email hidden], "Alan

Moffatt said:

Obviously there's a lot of ad hoc advice appearing all the
time, but I've never seen it codified.

Get a standard european accident report form. This is a form
which has a carbonless copy. You both enter your details (or
you can fill in one in your own language) which include name
address, the driver etc. a diagram of the accident. It does
NOT apportion blame, just takes a record of the facts. You
both sign it and take a copy.

Works very well on the continent.

..d

James said:

Travelling home tonight, in the home straight when I see a
car on the left waiting to turn right across my path. He
proceeds to pull out, and pause halfway across my lane, I
shout and start to brake but unfortunately the car decides
to pull out again completely blocking my path.

I hit the drivers side wing, go over the bars and come to
a rest on the windscreen, which I do a pretty good job of
smashing. Feeling ok I get up immediately, the guy gets
out saying 'are you alright mate'.. my first words are a
rather cliched 'look at my bike!' (a 5 year old, bright
yellow, EX trek 1000). I know there is a police station
nearby so I suggest we go down there to record the
accident. He says 'ok let me just pull the car up' He
pulls up into a nearby housing estate car park (I follow),
and before I can do anything, gets out with some shopping
and walks off into the nearby block of flats saying 'just
off to tell my aunt whats happened'.. door locks behind
him.. you can guess the rest..

Once I phone them the police arrive admirably quickly, I'm
still standing next to the car so they get the reg no and
do a quick search (he left the car open).. finding..
omninously, a letter from a solicitors.. car is taxed,
locally, which is a good sign, but the chaps reluctance to
stay in person suggests to me he wasn't on the insurance.

Anyway, police have taken details etc.. going to the gp
tomorrow for a checkup and wait for their call..

Morals of this story

[1] If you get knocked off, get hold of the other party,
physically, and don't let them go anywhere (sounds
obvious doesn't it)
[2] Don't mention the P word
[3] When you join CTC (as I have) make sure you choose the
EXTRA insurance which covers accidental damage [3b] Do
the above.. now
[4] When you wake up in the morning and don't quite feel
like cycling, don't, it might save your bike from being
smashed up on the way home.

Well, luckily, I'm fine. Anyone want a Trek1000
Spares/Repair? Hello from james

Welcome James. Glad you're ok. I would have laid on the
ground waiting for the first witness to appear, esp in those
circumstances, i,e over the bonnet AND a smashed windscreen.
Was no-one else around? other drivers? It's always helpful
if a small crowd gathers , more the merrier if the driver
tries to make a getaway

davep

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Quoted message said:

Anyway, police have taken details etc.. going to the gp
tomorrow for a checkup and wait for their call..

Welcome out of lurk. Glad you seem to be basically OK.
Could you please keep us posted on the developments in
this case?

Thanks for all the replies!

Dissapointingly no contact from the Police Officer handling
the case as yet, and no 'official' crime ref. number
allocated. Apparently there is an initial one given when you
report something, and a full number when its been been
through the system proper.

Good news is the frame on the bike doesn't seem to be
cracked and, fingers crossed, it should be back to me on
Wednesday thanks to my local bike shop Wharf Cycles on the
Isle of Dogs (wharfcycles.co.ukwharfcycles.co.ukOpen ↗) who have been
absolutely brilliant at keeping the costs down and work
quick (even offering to *lend* me a pair of forks so I could
bike to work the next day!). A new front wheel and set of
forks should have things back to normal.

If this hadn't have been the case, I discovered the Motor
Insurers Bureau (mib.org.ukmib.org.ukOpen ↗) have funds to
compensate damages to persons and property by
uninsured/untraced drivers - with an excess of £300, but
better than nothing if I had to replace the entire bike.

Will keep you updated.

Cheers,

James