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  1. Van Leeuwenhoek revolutionized the microscope. Through his
    work, in the 17th century, he was the first to discover the
    existence of bacteria, blood cells, sperm cells and more.

    His most notable experiment uncovered a mystery that has not
    yet been answered. He took a sample of stagnant water and
    observed many little creatures through his microscope. Next
    he collected a sample of clean rainwater and saw nothing in
    it. He sealed the samples in sterilized pipettes and
    continued to view them through his microscope. Day after day
    he saw nothing. Finally, on day four, he observed that the
    same creatures that he had seen in the stagnant water had
    made their way into his sealed containers. He was the first
    person to ever witness spontaneous generation. He had
    witnessed the creation of life without a mommy and daddy.
    The obvious question is, where did these germs come from.
    This question has never been answered to this day, although
    the experiment is easily recreated.

    It was in the 19th century that the "germ theory" was
    developed by Louis Pasteur. It hypothesizes that all
    infections and contageous disorders are caused by germs.
    This theory presupposes that the blood is sterile until
    invaded. This theory is still held by modern-day
    bacteriologists.

    Another 19th century biologist named Antoine Beauchamps,
    challenged Pasteurs theory by putting forth one of his
    own. He called it the "pleomorphic theory". He discovered
    that the blood was not sterile, but that it contained
    microbes that he named "microzymas". If an individual
    became sick, these microbes would alter their state.
    Although Pasteur expressed a firm belief that the blood
    was sterile in healthy people, it was easily seen that
    microzymas existed in healthy people. Beauchamps believed
    that disease came from within the body. The environment or
    "terrain" of the body, not the germ itselfr, dictated
    whether or not we got sick.

    Pasteur successfully promoted his "germ theory" while
    discrediting Beauchamps "pleomorphic theory". This was the
    fork in the road. The "germ theory" became accepted and has
    been passionately defended by those people who have chosen
    to tie their credibility to it. Forty years after the
    development of his "germ theory" Pasteur recanted with the
    words, "the microbe is nothing, the terrain is everything."
    It was too late, allopathic medicine has been entrenched
    ever since.

  2. "Dave Wickware" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:rL7nc.102234
    [email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:

    Van Leeuwenhoek revolutionized the microscope. Through his
    work, in the


    17th

    Quoted message said:

    century, he was the first to discover the existence of
    bacteria, blood cells, sperm cells and more.

    His most notable experiment uncovered a mystery that has
    not yet been answered. He took a sample of stagnant water
    and observed many little creatures through his


    microscope.

    Quoted message said:

    Next he collected a sample of clean rainwater and saw
    nothing in it. He sealed the samples in


    sterilized

    Quoted message said:

    pipettes and continued to view them through his
    microscope. Day after


    day he

    Quoted message said:

    saw nothing. Finally, on day four, he observed that the
    same creatures


    that

    Quoted message said:

    he had seen in the stagnant water had made their way into
    his sealed containers. He was the first person to ever
    witness spontaneous


    generation.

    Quoted message said:

    He had witnessed the creation of life without a mommy and
    daddy. The


    obvious

    Quoted message said:

    question is, where did these germs come from. This
    question has never been answered to this day, although the
    experiment is easily recreated.

    It was in the 19th century that the "germ theory" was
    developed by Louis Pasteur. It hypothesizes that all
    infections and contageous disorders are caused by germs.
    This theory presupposes that the blood is sterile until
    invaded. This theory is still held by modern-day
    bacteriologists.

    Another 19th century biologist named Antoine Beauchamps,
    challenged


    Pasteurs

    Quoted message said:

    theory by putting forth one of his own. He called it the
    "pleomorphic theory". He discovered that the blood was not
    sterile, but that it contained microbes that he named
    "microzymas". If an individual became sick, these microbes
    would alter their state. Although Pasteur expressed a firm
    belief that the blood was sterile in healthy people, it


    was

    Quoted message said:

    easily seen that microzymas existed in healthy people.
    Beauchamps


    believed

    Quoted message said:

    that disease came from within the body. The environment or
    "terrain" of


    the

    Quoted message said:

    body, not the germ itselfr, dictated whether or not we
    got sick.

    Pasteur successfully promoted his "germ theory" while
    discrediting Beauchamps "pleomorphic theory". This was the
    fork in the road. The "germ theory" became accepted and
    has been passionately defended by those people who have
    chosen to tie their credibility to it. Forty years after
    the development of his "germ


    theory"

    Quoted message said:

    Pasteur recanted with the words, "the microbe is nothing,
    the terrain is everything." It was too late, allopathic
    medicine has been entrenched ever since.

    Were you born stupid or did you aspire to it?

    r

    --
    Nothing beats the bandwidth of a station wagon filled with
    DLT tapes.

  3. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Dave Wickware said:

    Van Leeuwenhoek revolutionized the microscope.

    By inventing it, as it happens. Can't get much more
    revolutionary than that.

    Quoted message said:

    Through his work, in the 17th century, he was the first to
    discover the existence of bacteria, blood cells, sperm
    cells and more.

    Quoted message said:

    His most notable experiment uncovered a mystery that has
    not yet been answered. He took a sample of stagnant water
    and observed many little creatures through his microscope.
    Next he collected a sample of clean rainwater and saw
    nothing in it. He sealed the samples in sterilized pipettes
    and continued to view them through his microscope. Day
    after day he saw nothing. Finally, on day four, he observed
    that the same creatures that he had seen in the stagnant
    water had made their way into his sealed containers. He was
    the first person to ever witness spontaneous generation. He
    had witnessed the creation of life without a mommy and
    daddy. The obvious question is, where did these germs come
    from. This question has never been answered to this day,
    although the experiment is easily recreated.

    The obvious answer (obvious to people smarter than Spammin'
    Dave, which means most people) is that (a) his microscope
    wasn't powerful enough to see everything in the water, and
    (b) his sterile technique wasn't adequate. Pasteur did an
    elegant experiment that showed that spontaneous generation
    was nonsense. Spammin' Dave has apparently not heard of this
    experiment. I read about it when I was in elementary school.
    Perhaps when Spammin' Dave makes it through elementary
    school he'll have read about it also.

    Quoted message said:

    It was in the 19th century that the "germ theory" was
    developed by Louis Pasteur. It hypothesizes that all
    infections and contageous disorders are caused by germs.
    This theory presupposes that the blood is sterile until
    invaded. This theory is still held by modern-day
    bacteriologists.

    Quite rightly. Although the blood is never entirely sterile,
    though it's pretty close. If it were sterile, we wouldn't
    need macrophages and so on.

    Quoted message said:

    Another 19th century biologist named Antoine Beauchamps,
    challenged Pasteurs theory by putting forth one of his
    own. He called it the "pleomorphic theory". He discovered
    that the blood was not sterile, but that it contained
    microbes that he named "microzymas". If an individual
    became sick, these microbes would alter their state.
    Although Pasteur expressed a firm belief that the blood
    was sterile in healthy people, it was easily seen that
    microzymas existed in healthy people. Beauchamps believed
    that disease came from within the body. The environment or
    "terrain" of the body, not the germ itselfr, dictated
    whether or not we got sick.

    This theory was reasonable enough at the time, but we now
    know that bacteria do not, in fact, change their forms the
    way Bechamp thought they did. He was done in by the
    limitations of microscopy of his era.

    Quoted message said:

    Pasteur successfully promoted his "germ theory" while
    discrediting Beauchamps "pleomorphic theory".

    Lucky for us. Who knows how many people would have died
    had researchers wasted a lot of time following Bechamp's
    false trail.

    Quoted message said:

    This was the fork in the road. The "germ theory" became
    accepted and has been passionately defended by those people
    who have chosen to tie their credibility to it. Forty years
    after the development of his "germ theory" Pasteur recanted
    with the words, "the microbe is nothing, the terrain is
    everything." It was too late,

    And for how many more years will this bogus "quotation" of
    Pasteur be repeated by altie know-nothings?

    -- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net These are my
    opinions only, but they're almost always correct. "If I
    have not seen as far as others, it is because giants were
    standing on my shoulders." (Hal Abelson, MIT)

  4. "Dave Wickware" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Davey, stick to plagiarizing.

  5. Quoted message said:

    Subject: The Source of Allopathic Medicine
    From: "Dave Wickware" [email hidden]
    Date: 5/8/04 12:18 PM Eastern Daylight Time
    Message-id: <[email hidden]

    True enough.

    However, those in science and medicine never counted on
    business men creating a medical monopoly based upon
    Pasteur's lies. Thus, we have allopathic medicine and all
    the laws from the federal level to the state level to the
    local level to protect the monopoly's right to profit from
    our diseases.

    DrC PhD

    Quoted message said:


    Van Leeuwenhoek revolutionized the microscope. Through his
    work, in the 17th century, he was the first to discover the
    existence of bacteria, blood cells, sperm cells and more.

    His most notable experiment uncovered a mystery that has
    not yet been answered. He took a sample of stagnant water
    and observed many little creatures through his microscope.
    Next he collected a sample of clean rainwater and saw
    nothing in it. He sealed the samples in sterilized pipettes
    and continued to view them through his microscope. Day
    after day he saw nothing. Finally, on day four, he observed
    that the same creatures that he had seen in the stagnant
    water had made their way into his sealed containers. He was
    the first person to ever witness spontaneous generation. He
    had witnessed the creation of life without a mommy and
    daddy. The obvious question is, where did these germs come
    from. This question has never been answered to this day,
    although the experiment is easily recreated.

    It was in the 19th century that the "germ theory" was
    developed by Louis Pasteur. It hypothesizes that all
    infections and contageous disorders are caused by germs.
    This theory presupposes that the blood is sterile until
    invaded. This theory is still held by modern-day
    bacteriologists.

    Another 19th century biologist named Antoine Beauchamps,
    challenged Pasteurs theory by putting forth one of his
    own. He called it the "pleomorphic theory". He discovered
    that the blood was not sterile, but that it contained
    microbes that he named "microzymas". If an individual
    became sick, these microbes would alter their state.
    Although Pasteur expressed a firm belief that the blood
    was sterile in healthy people, it was easily seen that
    microzymas existed in healthy people. Beauchamps believed
    that disease came from within the body. The environment or
    "terrain" of the body, not the germ itselfr, dictated
    whether or not we got sick.

    Pasteur successfully promoted his "germ theory" while
    discrediting Beauchamps "pleomorphic theory". This was the
    fork in the road. The "germ theory" became accepted and has
    been passionately defended by those people who have chosen
    to tie their credibility to it. Forty years after the
    development of his "germ theory" Pasteur recanted with the
    words, "the microbe is nothing, the terrain is everything."
    It was too late, allopathic medicine has been entrenched
    ever since.

  6. Dave Wickware said:

    Forty years after the development of his "germ theory"
    Pasteur recanted with the words, "the microbe is nothing,
    the terrain is everything."

    Lie.

    See ratbags.compasteur.htm

    --
    Peter Bowditch
    The Millenium Project ratbags.comrsoles
    The Green Light ratbags.comgreenlight
    Quintessence of the Loon ratbags.comloon
    To email me use my first name only at ratbags.com

  7. "Rich.Andrews" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    "Dave Wickware" <[email hidden]> wrote in
    news:rL7nc.102234 [email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:

    Van Leeuwenhoek revolutionized the microscope. Through
    his work, in the


    17th

    Quoted message said:

    century, he was the first to discover the existence of
    bacteria, blood cells, sperm cells and more.

    His most notable experiment uncovered a mystery that has
    not yet been answered. He took a sample of stagnant
    water and observed many little creatures through his


    microscope.

    Quoted message said:

    Next he collected a sample of clean rainwater and saw
    nothing in it. He sealed the samples in


    sterilized

    Quoted message said:

    pipettes and continued to view them through his
    microscope. Day after


    day he

    Quoted message said:

    saw nothing. Finally, on day four, he observed that the
    same creatures


    that

    Quoted message said:

    he had seen in the stagnant water had made their way
    into his sealed containers. He was the first person to
    ever witness spontaneous


    generation.

    Quoted message said:

    He had witnessed the creation of life without a mommy
    and daddy. The


    obvious

    Quoted message said:

    question is, where did these germs come from. This
    question has never been answered to this day, although
    the experiment is easily recreated.

    It was in the 19th century that the "germ theory" was
    developed by Louis Pasteur. It hypothesizes that all
    infections and contageous disorders are caused by germs.
    This theory presupposes that the blood is sterile until
    invaded. This theory is still held by modern-day
    bacteriologists.

    Another 19th century biologist named Antoine Beauchamps,
    challenged


    Pasteurs

    Quoted message said:

    theory by putting forth one of his own. He called it the
    "pleomorphic theory". He discovered that the blood was
    not sterile, but that it contained microbes that he
    named "microzymas". If an individual became sick, these
    microbes would alter their state. Although Pasteur
    expressed a firm belief that the blood was sterile in
    healthy people, it


    was

    Quoted message said:

    easily seen that microzymas existed in healthy people.
    Beauchamps


    believed

    Quoted message said:

    that disease came from within the body. The environment
    or "terrain" of


    the

    Quoted message said:

    body, not the germ itselfr, dictated whether or not we
    got sick.

    Pasteur successfully promoted his "germ theory" while
    discrediting Beauchamps "pleomorphic theory". This was
    the fork in the road. The "germ theory" became accepted
    and has been passionately defended by those people who
    have chosen to tie their credibility to it. Forty years
    after the development of his "germ


    theory"

    Quoted message said:

    Pasteur recanted with the words, "the microbe is
    nothing, the terrain is everything." It was too late,
    allopathic medicine has been entrenched ever since.

    Were you born stupid or did you aspire to it?

    r


    If you watched him from the start you would realise that
    this level of stupidity requires daily practice to maintain.

    --
    The Spider Web is to catch spam.
    Brush it aside to email me.

    Doug

  8. "David Wright" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    In article
    <[email hidden]>, Dave

    Wickware said:

    Van Leeuwenhoek revolutionized the microscope.

    By inventing it, as it happens. Can't get much more
    revolutionary than that.

    Actually you are incorrect (surprise-surprise) again. The
    inventor of the microscope was a Dutchman by the name of
    Zacharias Jansenn.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Through his work, in the 17th century, he was the first
    to discover the existence of bacteria, blood cells, sperm
    cells and more.

    Quoted message said:

    His most notable experiment uncovered a mystery that has
    not yet been answered. He took a sample of stagnant water
    and observed many little creatures through his
    microscope. Next he collected a sample of clean rainwater
    and saw nothing in it. He sealed the samples in
    sterilized pipettes and continued to view them through
    his microscope. Day after day he saw nothing. Finally, on
    day four, he observed that the same creatures that he had
    seen in the stagnant water had made their way into his
    sealed containers. He was the first person to ever
    witness spontaneous generation. He had witnessed the
    creation of life without a mommy and daddy. The obvious
    question is, where did these germs come from. This
    question has never been answered to this day, although
    the experiment is easily recreated.

    And YOUR answer is?

    Quoted message said:

    The obvious answer (obvious to people smarter than
    Spammin' Dave, which means most people) is that (a) his
    microscope wasn't powerful enough to see everything in the
    water, and (b) his sterile technique wasn't adequate.
    Pasteur did an elegant experiment that showed that
    spontaneous generation was nonsense. Spammin' Dave has
    apparently not heard of this experiment. I read about it
    when I was in elementary school. Perhaps when Spammin'
    Dave makes it through elementary school he'll have read
    about it also.

    I guess senility syndrome has made you forget the
    point of it?

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    It was in the 19th century that the "germ theory" was
    developed by Louis Pasteur. It hypothesizes that all
    infections and contageous disorders are caused by germs.
    This theory presupposes that the blood is sterile until
    invaded. This theory is still held by modern-day
    bacteriologists.

    Quite rightly. Although the blood is never entirely
    sterile, though it's pretty close. If it were sterile, we
    wouldn't need macrophages and so on.

    Spoken with true ignorance. Anyone who is bright enough to
    know how to look at a live blood sample through a microscope
    can see that is total nonsense.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Another 19th century biologist named Antoine Beauchamps,
    challenged Pasteurs theory by putting forth one of his
    own. He called it the "pleomorphic theory". He discovered
    that the blood was not sterile, but that it contained
    microbes that he named "microzymas". If an individual
    became sick, these microbes would alter their state.
    Although Pasteur expressed a firm belief that the blood
    was sterile in healthy people, it was easily seen that
    microzymas existed in healthy people. Beauchamps believed
    that disease came from within the body. The environment
    or "terrain" of the body, not the germ itselfr, dictated
    whether or not we got sick.

    This theory was reasonable enough at the time, but we now
    know that bacteria do not, in fact, change their forms the
    way Bechamp thought they did. He was done in by the
    limitations of microscopy of his era.

    Quoted message said:

    Pasteur successfully promoted his "germ theory" while
    discrediting Beauchamps "pleomorphic theory".

    Lucky for us. Who knows how many people would have died
    had researchers wasted a lot of time following Bechamp's
    false trail.

    All of us who understand that he was quite correct then and
    is still today, are able to assist people in being healed.
    You should read my book when its finished. You likely won't
    understand it because you would need to throw away your
    personal system of protective beliefs and I'm sure you would
    be lost without having someone dictate what to believe.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    This was the fork in the road. The "germ theory" became
    accepted and has been passionately defended by those
    people who have chosen to tie their credibility to it.
    Forty years after the development of his "germ theory"
    Pasteur recanted with the words, "the microbe is nothing,
    the terrain is everything." It was too late,

    And for how many more years will this bogus "quotation" of
    Pasteur be repeated by altie know-nothings?

    I must admit I wasn't there. But if he did say it, he
    was correct.

  9. "Peter Bowditch" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Dave Wickware said:

    Forty years after the development of his "germ theory"
    Pasteur recanted with the words, "the microbe is nothing,
    the terrain is everything."

    Lie.

    See ratbags.compasteur.htm

    Excellent.

  10. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Dave Wickware said:


    "David Wright" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    In article
    <[email hidden]>, Dave

    Wickware said:

    Van Leeuwenhoek revolutionized the microscope.

    By inventing it, as it happens. Can't get much more
    revolutionary than that.

    Actually you are incorrect (surprise-surprise) again. The
    inventor of the microscope was a Dutchman by the name of
    Zacharias Jansenn.

    My mistake. Leeuwenhoek was the first to see protozoa
    and bacteria.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Through his work, in the 17th century, he was the first
    to discover the existence of bacteria, blood cells,
    sperm cells and more.

    Quoted message said:

    His most notable experiment uncovered a mystery that has
    not yet been answered. He took a sample of stagnant
    water and observed many little creatures through his
    microscope. Next he collected a sample of clean
    rainwater and saw nothing in it. He sealed the samples
    in sterilized pipettes and continued to view them
    through his microscope. Day after day he saw nothing.
    Finally, on day four, he observed that the same
    creatures that he had seen in the stagnant water had
    made their way into his sealed containers. He was the
    first person to ever witness spontaneous generation. He
    had witnessed the creation of life without a mommy and
    daddy. The obvious question is, where did these germs
    come from. This question has never been answered to this
    day, although the experiment is easily recreated.

    And YOUR answer is?

    My answer was in the next paragraph. Apparently you were so
    eager to claim I was wrong that you failed to notice it.
    There's not much I can do about that.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    The obvious answer (obvious to people smarter than
    Spammin' Dave, which means most people) is that (a) his
    microscope wasn't powerful enough to see everything in
    the water, and (b) his sterile technique wasn't adequate.
    Pasteur did an elegant experiment that showed that
    spontaneous generation was nonsense. Spammin' Dave has
    apparently not heard of this experiment. I read about it
    when I was in elementary school. Perhaps when Spammin'
    Dave makes it through elementary school he'll have read
    about it also.

    I guess senility syndrome has made you forget the
    point of it?

    Nope. But I see that you have plagiarized yet another piece
    of text in a subsequent posting and I'll get to that in a
    separate reply.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    It was in the 19th century that the "germ theory" was
    developed by Louis Pasteur. It hypothesizes that all
    infections and contageous disorders are caused by germs.
    This theory presupposes that the blood is sterile until
    invaded. This theory is still held by modern-day
    bacteriologists.

    Quite rightly. Although the blood is never entirely
    sterile, though it's pretty close. If it were sterile, we
    wouldn't need macrophages and so on.

    Spoken with true ignorance. Anyone who is bright enough to
    know how to look at a live blood sample through a
    microscope can see that is total nonsense.

    You do post a great deal of total nonsense, Spammin' Dave,
    and I am hopeful that you are now becoming aware of that.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Another 19th century biologist named Antoine Beauchamps,
    challenged Pasteurs theory by putting forth one of his
    own. He called it the "pleomorphic theory". He
    discovered that the blood was not sterile, but that it
    contained microbes that he named "microzymas". If an
    individual became sick, these microbes would alter their
    state. Although Pasteur expressed a firm belief that the
    blood was sterile in healthy people, it was easily seen
    that microzymas existed in healthy people. Beauchamps
    believed that disease came from within the body. The
    environment or "terrain" of the body, not the germ
    itselfr, dictated whether or not we got sick.

    This theory was reasonable enough at the time, but we now
    know that bacteria do not, in fact, change their forms
    the way Bechamp thought they did. He was done in by the
    limitations of microscopy of his era.

    Quoted message said:

    Pasteur successfully promoted his "germ theory" while
    discrediting Beauchamps "pleomorphic theory".

    Lucky for us. Who knows how many people would have died
    had researchers wasted a lot of time following Bechamp's
    false trail.

    All of us who understand that he was quite correct then and
    is still today,

    You don't understand anything, Spammin' Dave, except how to
    quote people who are just as confused and ignorant as you
    are. If Bechamp's idea of pleomorphism was correct, it'd be
    trivial to demonstrate today. Yet it's not being done, even
    though it would make the reputation of whoever did it.

    Quoted message said:

    are able to assist people in being healed. You should read
    my book when its finished. You likely won't understand it
    because you would need to throw away your personal system
    of protective beliefs and I'm sure you would be lost
    without having someone dictate what to believe.

    As opposed to your illustrious self, who mostly posts
    unattributed quotations of other people. Gosh, I'm so
    impressed. And you're going to write a book, so that your
    vast grasp of misinformation can be recorded for posterity.
    That's nice.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    This was the fork in the road. The "germ theory" became
    accepted and has been passionately defended by those
    people who have chosen to tie their credibility to it.
    Forty years after the development of his "germ theory"
    Pasteur recanted with the words, "the microbe is
    nothing, the terrain is everything." It was too late,

    And for how many more years will this bogus "quotation"
    of Pasteur be repeated by altie know-nothings?

    I must admit I wasn't there. But if he did say it, he
    was correct.

    We went through all this recently. The supposed quotation
    is as fictitious as Mrs O'Leary's cow causing the Great
    Chicago Fire.

    -- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net These are my
    opinions only, but they're almost always correct. "If I
    have not seen as far as others, it is because giants were
    standing on my shoulders." (Hal Abelson, MIT)

  11. Quoted message said:

    From: Peter Bowditch [email hidden]

    Quoted message said:

    Lie.

    Quoted message said:

    ratbagsratbags.

    Lies there indeed. Proven liar and deceiver Peter Bowditch.

    <snip spam>

    Jan

  12. "Jan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    From: Peter Bowditch [email hidden]

    Quoted message said:

    Lie.

    Quoted message said:

    ratbagsratbags.

    Lies there indeed. Proven liar and deceiver Peter
    Bowditch.

    Jan Drew is well known to snip and edit to change
    meaning. Anytime one reads her posts, they should always
    read the original.

  13. "Jan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    From: Peter Bowditch [email hidden]

    Quoted message said:

    Lie.

    Quoted message said:

    ratbagsratbags.

    Lies there indeed. Proven liar and deceiver Peter
    Bowditch.

    No lie, and no proof. Your naked accusation is a lie itself
    until you back it up with proof.

    Exodus 20:16

    Sin no more, Jan.

    --Rich

  14. In article
    <[email hidden]>,
    M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t-May 10, 2004 <M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t

    Quoted message said:


    "Jan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:20040509232437.17812.00001137@mb-
    m16.aol.com...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    From: Peter Bowditch [email hidden]

    Quoted message said:

    Lie.

    Quoted message said:

    ratbagsratbags.

    Lies there indeed. Proven liar and deceiver Peter
    Bowditch.

    Jan Drew is well known to snip and edit to change meaning.
    Anytime one reads her posts, they should always read the
    original.

    This is why I don't read her posts -- I don't have to watch
    her lie by omission. And you should cut back, Mark -- you're
    getting way too emotional about what she writes. She's a
    nut, rememeber? What were you expecting her to write --
    something sensible?

    -- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net These are my
    opinions only, but they're almost always correct. "If I
    have not seen as far as others, it is because giants were
    standing on my shoulders." (Hal Abelson, MIT)

  15. "David Wright" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    In article
    <[email hidden]>,
    M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t-May 10, 2004 <M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t


    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    "Jan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:20040509232437.17812.00001137@mb-
    m16.aol.com...

    Quoted message said:

    >From: Peter Bowditch [email hidden]

    >Lie.

    >ratbagsratbags.

    Lies there indeed. Proven liar and deceiver Peter
    Bowditch.

    Jan Drew is well known to snip and edit to change
    meaning. Anytime one


    reads

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    her posts, they should always read the original.

    This is why I don't read her posts -- I don't have to
    watch her lie by omission. And you should cut back, Mark
    -- you're getting way too emotional about what she writes.
    She's a nut, rememeber? What were you expecting her to
    write -- something sensible?

    As I have said before, callme Don Quixote.

    Hope springs eternal.

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