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  1. TO HELL WITH YOUR HEALTH
    feastofhateandfear.comto hell.html

    Health care in the United States is not a service, but an
    industry. It operates like any other industry, in that its
    primary aim is to make profits for the corporations which
    direct it. That direction is usually to exploit an existing
    market, while creating new ones. Emphasis in determining new
    markets is not based on the needs of the general public, but
    rather on how lucrative a potential market me be. Medicine
    in America is controlled mostly by large corporations with
    diversified interests. The same companies that make drugs
    are the ones who make candy, coffee, fast foods, and
    cigarettes. Usually, supporting the very lifestyle which
    makes people sick. They also directly (or indirectly) use
    the media, advertising and research to determine the
    public's attitude and interest towards health, doctors and
    pharmaceuticals. It is more important for a product to be
    profitable, than effective. Of every dollar spent on drugs,
    25¢ to marketing, production, packaging, etc. Most of it
    aimed at family doctors who will push the product on their
    patients. Of that quarter, 10¢ or so goes to research, a
    piece for development or the "new and improved" version of
    an old drug. Moving product is more important than the
    quality or safety of that product. The idea is to sell
    first, ask questions later. Thus we've had chemicals such as
    thalidomide deemed safe, only later was it found to cause
    cancer and "flipper babies." Another example would be the
    first birth control pills, which were huge on the market for
    over ten years, until the cancer statistics came in. did the
    corporations get rid of the pills? No, they just sold them
    at half-rate to third-world nations. The drug companies are
    literally drug pushers. Hospitals, medical suppliers,
    geriatric homes… all are aspects of medical care which are
    part of a vast marketing complex. The emphasis is on high
    cost private facilities, but the poor's potential as a
    profit source is not ignored. Controlled quality and
    quantity of public facilities stratifies the market. If
    county hospitals are crowded and facilities are inadequate,
    people will turn to private facilities. Of course, the cost
    of private hospitals and treatment is prohibitively high,
    and people must then turn to the insurance companies, often
    corporations who invest or even own the companies which
    supply the sick person's needs. The poor, aided by Medicare,
    Medicaid, (etc) form a vast market for second class
    services. Hand-in-glove with the government agencies who
    create medical care for those who otherwise could not afford
    it. Seems great until you realize that now the corporations
    are not only guaranteed a gigantic pool of consumers, but
    also a hardy testing ground for questionable or untried
    products. But the ultimate in guaranteed markets is the old
    age/death market. A prolonged costly demise is the mark of
    the American way of expiration. By keeping a patient alive
    as long as possible, maximum profit can be realized. Dying
    geriatrics are relatively trouble free, low maintenance… the
    ideal customer, a captive class of consumer. The American
    Medical Association (AMA) exists as the main body for
    protecting interests of doctors, an elite group whose
    training is aimed at maintaining the status quo while
    realizing maximum profits. The AMA's means of control begins
    at the source, the boards for accreditation and standards of
    new doctors. The standards and requirements for entrance
    into medical school, the numbers of new schools, tuition and
    the like, are all AMA controlled. Only 5% of all medical
    school graduates become general practitioners . emphasis is
    on producing specialists, usually in a field which relies
    heavily on high level technology. Even with the best
    humanitarian motives, most survivors of medical schools end
    up opting for high profit, low work load fields. After a few
    years of high pressure internship and 20 hour days, patients
    become a dehumanized commodity and a private, high paying
    practice begins to look pretty good. Charity wards and
    county hospitals are a create training ground, but it will
    not get you that new BMW… brain surgery might. The AMA
    defines and controls the numbers of physicians the medical
    schools produce, insuring lack of competition and sure jobs
    for AMA members. The AMA also defines and controls the
    professional role of the doctor. The role being that of
    illness and symptom removal as opposed to health
    enhancement. Preventive medicine, holistic approaches etc,
    are simply not as profitable as treatment of existing
    symptoms would be. The doctor actually has a certain
    investment in the illness of his patients: illness as
    commodity. If they practiced"preventive medicine" and
    prevented illnesses from attacking in the first place, the
    office would be empty, so would their pockets. The role of
    the doctor as omnipotent holder of a secret knowledge and
    skills is still very well in place today, although most
    information can easily be found in any book in any library
    for any person to read on their own time. This role is
    protected tough, by limiting the practice of those who do
    not have and M.D. or PhD such as paramedics, midwives,
    healers and legally even nurses are restricted from
    performing even the most routine procedures which are the
    exclusive realm of the M.D.. Lastly, techniques alien to
    western medicine are suppressed or controlled. Acupuncture,
    chiropractic, natural healing, etc. Are depicted by the AMA
    and corporate media as quackery or fanaticism. Interesting
    to note that in the case of acupuncture , an effective
    technique that has been used and understood in Asia
    thousands of years before the United States of America was
    even thought. It's also quite interesting that and M.D.,
    without any knowledge of acupuncture, can practiced it on
    any patient so they choose, but a trained acupuncturist
    cannot practice anything related to medicine, even if they
    studied it for years. The AMA has systematically fought
    progressive legislation, perpetuated a dual system of care
    where one arm is for the rich the other for the poor. The
    AMA has made inaccessible a free, equal, comprehensive
    consumer controlled health care… in order to protect their
    own "right to profit" from the health industry. Just writing
    all of this is making me, well... sick.

  2. Quintal said:

    Health care in the United States is not a service, but an
    industry.

    What's the difference?

  3. Quintal <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    TO HELL WITH YOUR HEALTH
    feastofhateandfear.comto hell.html

    Health care in the United States is not a service, but an
    industry. It operates like any other industry, in that its
    primary aim is to make profits for the corporations which
    direct it. That direction is usually to exploit an
    existing market, while creating new ones. Emphasis in
    determining new markets is not based on the needs of the
    general public, but rather on how lucrative a potential
    market me be. Medicine in America is controlled mostly by
    large corporations with diversified interests. The same
    companies that make drugs are the ones who make candy,
    coffee, fast foods, and cigarettes. Usually, supporting
    the very lifestyle which makes people sick. They also
    directly (or indirectly) use the media, advertising and
    research to determine the public's attitude and interest
    towards health, doctors and pharmaceuticals. It is more
    important for a product to be profitable, than effective.
    Of every dollar spent on drugs, 25¢ to marketing,
    production, packaging, etc. Most of it aimed at family
    doctors who will push the product on their patients. Of
    that quarter, 10¢ or so goes to research, a piece for
    development or the "new and improved" version of an old
    drug. Moving product is more important than the quality or
    safety of that product. The idea is to sell first, ask
    questions later. Thus we've had chemicals such as
    thalidomide deemed safe, only later was it found to cause
    cancer and "flipper babies." Another example would be the
    first birth control pills, which were huge on the market
    for over ten years, until the cancer statistics came in.
    did the corporations get rid of the pills? No, they just
    sold them at half-rate to third-world nations. The drug
    companies are literally drug pushers. Hospitals, medical
    suppliers, geriatric homes? all are aspects of medical
    care which are part of a vast marketing complex. The
    emphasis is on high cost private facilities, but the
    poor's potential as a profit source is not ignored.
    Controlled quality and quantity of public facilities
    stratifies the market. If county hospitals are crowded and
    facilities are inadequate, people will turn to private
    facilities. Of course, the cost of private hospitals and
    treatment is prohibitively high, and people must then turn
    to the insurance companies, often corporations who invest
    or even own the companies which supply the sick person's
    needs. The poor, aided by Medicare, Medicaid, (etc) form a
    vast market for second class services. Hand-in-glove with
    the government agencies who create medical care for those
    who otherwise could not afford it. Seems great until you
    realize that now the corporations are not only guaranteed
    a gigantic pool of consumers, but also a hardy testing
    ground for questionable or untried products. But the
    ultimate in guaranteed markets is the old age/death
    market. A prolonged costly demise is the mark of the
    American way of expiration. By keeping a patient alive as
    long as possible, maximum profit can be realized. Dying
    geriatrics are relatively trouble free, low maintenance?
    the ideal customer, a captive class of consumer. The
    American Medical Association (AMA) exists as the main body
    for protecting interests of doctors, an elite group whose
    training is aimed at maintaining the status quo while
    realizing maximum profits. The AMA's means of control
    begins at the source, the boards for accreditation and
    standards of new doctors. The standards and requirements
    for entrance into medical school, the numbers of new
    schools, tuition and the like, are all AMA controlled.
    Only 5% of all medical school graduates become general
    practitioners . emphasis is on producing specialists,
    usually in a field which relies heavily on high level
    technology. Even with the best humanitarian motives, most
    survivors of medical schools end up opting for high
    profit, low work load fields. After a few years of high
    pressure internship and 20 hour days, patients become a
    dehumanized commodity and a private, high paying practice
    begins to look pretty good. Charity wards and county
    hospitals are a create training ground, but it will not
    get you that new BMW? brain surgery might. The AMA defines
    and controls the numbers of physicians the medical schools
    produce, insuring lack of competition and sure jobs for
    AMA members. The AMA also defines and controls the
    professional role of the doctor. The role being that of
    illness and symptom removal as opposed to health
    enhancement. Preventive medicine, holistic approaches etc,
    are simply not as profitable as treatment of existing
    symptoms would be. The doctor actually has a certain
    investment in the illness of his patients: illness as
    commodity. If they practiced"preventive medicine" and
    prevented illnesses from attacking in the first place, the
    office would be empty, so would their pockets. The role of
    the doctor as omnipotent holder of a secret knowledge and
    skills is still very well in place today, although most
    information can easily be found in any book in any library
    for any person to read on their own time. This role is
    protected tough, by limiting the practice of those who do
    not have and M.D. or PhD such as paramedics, midwives,
    healers and legally even nurses are restricted from
    performing even the most routine procedures which are the
    exclusive realm of the M.D.. Lastly, techniques alien to
    western medicine are suppressed or controlled.
    Acupuncture, chiropractic, natural healing, etc. Are
    depicted by the AMA and corporate media as quackery or
    fanaticism. Interesting to note that in the case of
    acupuncture , an effective technique that has been used
    and understood in Asia thousands of years before the
    United States of America was even thought. It's also quite
    interesting that and M.D., without any knowledge of
    acupuncture, can practiced it on any patient so they
    choose, but a trained acupuncturist cannot practice
    anything related to medicine, even if they studied it for
    years. The AMA has systematically fought progressive
    legislation, perpetuated a dual system of care where one
    arm is for the rich the other for the poor. The AMA has
    made inaccessible a free, equal, comprehensive consumer
    controlled health care? in order to protect their own
    "right to profit" from the health industry. Just writing
    all of this is making me, well... sick.

    Folks tend to trespass against each other. It is the sinful
    nature of man.

    Servant to the humblest person in the universe,

    Andrew

    --
    Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
    Board-Certified Cardiologist
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  4. Aristotle, in his work, "Politics", stated that there are
    certain things that a government should provide for it's
    people. Here is a quote from the same: "First, there must be
    food; secondly, arts, for life requires many instruments;
    thirdly, there must be arms, for the members of a community
    have need of them, and in their own hands, too, in order to
    maintain authority both against disobedient subjects and
    against external assailants; fourthly, there must be a
    certain amount of revenue, both for internal needs, and for
    the purposes of war; fifthly, or rather first, there must be
    a care of religion, which is commonly called worship;
    sixthly, and most necessary of all, there must be a power of
    deciding what is for the public interest, and what is just
    in men's dealings with one another." End of quote. Clearly
    the medical arts in adequate numbers for all citizens is a
    necessary duty for government. This implies that the USA
    Government is is failing with regard to both the quality and
    quantity of health care provided to American citizens as a
    primary duty of government. Universal health care for all
    americans along with an adequate number of health care
    providers (doctors, nurses, and others) is an essential
    element of this requisite duty of government. Simple "free
    market" mechanisms to address this problem is inappropriate
    and ineffective as the same is the responsibility of the
    civil government not the free markets nor individual
    caoatalists which have no incentive to deal with this
    problem in an ethical and efficacious manner. The American
    government should take immediate action to correct the
    aforementioned by taking the appropriate responsibility for
    the same as an essential duty of government,
    Mr. C.V. Compton Shaw, R.N., CLA

    LIBRARY OF THE FUTURE (R) 4th Edition Ver. 5.0 Aphorisms
    Hippocrates Scr 1: 81
    ---------------------------------------------------------
    by Hippocrates

    translated by Francis Adams

    Electronically Enhanced Text (c) Copyright 1996, World
    Library(R)

    SECTION I
    -

    Life is short, and Art long; the crisis fleeting;
    experience
    perilous, and decision difficult. The physician must not
    only be
    prepared to do what is right himself, but also to make the
    patient,
    the attendants, and externals
    cooperate.
    -

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