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  1. Adrian Tupper said:

    Or perhaps a "side" is the region between "ridges". A
    "ridge" being the route between two summits. Some summits
    may be connected to only one "ridge" but others will be
    hubs of any number of "ridges".

    Yes, that's a better definition than my vague waffle.

    Quoted message said:

    So are you suggesting a new category: a point which
    looks like a summit from below but doesn't when you get
    to the top?

    I didn't say it didn't look like a summit from the top. It
    probably doesn't from the connecting ridge but it does when
    you stand on the top
    IMO. It is higher than the rest of the ridge, it has a spot
    height and it has it's own name, so even though
    there's not much drop involved, it's definitely a
    summit. It just doesn't have enough drop to get into
    any lists.

    I think anything with a spot height and a name is a summit,
    but many are not significant. This one is a lot more
    significant than a vague bump on a plateau or ridge though.

    Quoted message said:

    When working out connecting "ridges" I took a summit to
    be anywhere surrounded by two contour lines on a
    1:50,000 map.

    This has just one contour line so the drop may be less than
    10m.

    Quoted message said:

    Hill lists wouldn't normally bother with 20m of reascent
    but for what you are talking about, i.e. at the end of a
    ridge, it is more than enough for someone to be a point
    of note.

    Definitely a point of note IMO.

    Quoted message said:

    Anyone wanting to walk the "complex" of ridges in the
    system will need to take in this summit. Where did you say
    it was again?

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  2. "Paul Saunders" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:c7mce7$nm3$1
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    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    When working out connecting "ridges" I took a summit to
    be anywhere surrounded by two contour lines on a
    1:50,000 map.

    This has just one contour line so the drop may be less
    than 10m.

    A bit dubious then!

    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:

    Hill lists wouldn't normally bother with 20m of reascent
    but for what you are talking about, i.e. at the end of a
    ridge, it is more than enough for someone to be a point
    of note.

    Definitely a point of note IMO.

    Right. But this ridge is in danger of looking like a spur if
    that summit really is only a few metres.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Anyone wanting to walk the "complex" of ridges in the
    system will need to take in this summit. Where did you
    say it was again?

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    I have to admit that it wouldn't make it into anything I've
    been working on. The summit is somewhere between 13 and 23m
    above the col 200m to the NNW.

    --
    Adrian

  3. Adrian Tupper said:

    I have to admit that it wouldn't make it into anything
    I've been working on. The summit is somewhere between 13
    and 23m above the col 200m to the NNW.

    3 to 13m actually, otherwise it would probably qualify as
    a Nuttall.

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  4. "Paul Saunders" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:c7ou7s$pnl$1
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    Quoted message said:
    Adrian Tupper said:

    I have to admit that it wouldn't make it into anything
    I've been working on. The summit is somewhere between 13
    and 23m above the col 200m to the NNW.

    3 to 13m actually, otherwise it would probably qualify as
    a Nuttall.

    Yes, sorry. The col must be at least 670m and no more
    than 680m.

    --
    Adrian

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