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Pete said:

Julie Bove said:

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> Is it a good ideal to start a driving career with
> having diabetes?

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Driving career? What does that mean?

Driving a vehicle as a career. Duh

I'm not sure it classified as a career; but driving cabs
for 17 years probably falls within the definition.

Then again, "career" is a little ambiguous. Career implies
an upward progression in status - or moving fast without
control.

He could start out in little cars, work up to mid sized vans
and them onwards and upwards to trucks:-) And if he's
diabetic, he could do them all "fast without control" :-)))

Beav

9 May 2004 'Julie Bove said:

It seems like there would be a big difference in those jobs
though. A

Agreed, but your question didn't seem to extend that far -
it seemed to me (and clearly others) that you couldn't see
how driving could be a "career".

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trucker probably wouldn't be taking many breaks.

As I understand it, in many parts of the world a trucker's
life is pretty much regulated as far as the ratio of break /
running time/s, but that, as I said, didn't come across as a
concern in your basic "what's that" query ...

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Jim Dumas said:

Hi Bobby,

What I did was google "FAA diabetic pilots" and several
good web sites came up. One with two articles on diabetic
pilot licensing is:

cami.jccbi.govaamOpen ↗
400A/FASMB/FAS2001/0001men2.htm

These two articles have bad URLs. The correct URLs are:

cami.jccbi.govaamOpen ↗
400A/FASMB/FAS2001/diabetes.htm

for "Diabetes Mellitus in an Airman." It details why an
insulin using T2 was denied a 3rd class (noncommercial)
pilot's license. The second article is "Diabetic Pilot
Flying in Style" at:

cami.jccbi.govaamOpen ↗
400A/FASMB/FAS2001/diabetic.htm

They are interesting reads and should get Guy fired up,
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Jim Dumas T1 4/86, background retinopathy, rarely
hypoglycemic: <1/mo. lispro+R+U+NPH daily, moderate
exercise, typically <6% HbA1c

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He could start out in little cars, work up to mid sized
vans and them onwards and upwards to trucks:-) And if he's
diabetic, he could do them

all

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"fast without control" :-)))

Dangit! I needed a beverage alert for that one. *ROTFL*

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On Tue, 11 May 2004 03:20:27 GMT, Jim Dumas

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Jim Dumas said:

Hi Bobby,

What I did was google "FAA diabetic pilots" and several
good web sites came up. One with two articles on diabetic
pilot licensing is:

cami.jccbi.govaamOpen ↗
400A/FASMB/FAS2001/0001men2.htm

These two articles have bad URLs. The correct URLs are:

cami.jccbi.govaamOpen ↗
400A/FASMB/FAS2001/diabetes.htm

for "Diabetes Mellitus in an Airman." It details why an
insulin using T2 was denied a 3rd class (noncommercial)
pilot's license. The second article is "Diabetic Pilot
Flying in Style" at:

cami.jccbi.govaamOpen ↗
400A/FASMB/FAS2001/diabetic.htm

They are interesting reads and should get Guy fired up,

Guy---I don't care but i accepted that for me there was
a risk. I also quit driving when it became apparent I
was a risk.

Quite a few pilots (in my day) covered up diabetes and kept
flying. If that is you living, you will not quit easily.

I considered gliders but thinking about the loss of ability
and judgment decided against it.

The difference today they are calling people diabetic that
have no loss of anything. So it is different story. Our test
was the old urine test.

I know of two people that had unusual fatal crashes and the
rumor mill said they were diabetic. I still look up when I
hear certain engine sounds. Least of my worries today. The
911 wagon get my attention now. Is it someone "I talked to
yesterday"?

Had a pilots license at 17. Just use common sense in the
pursuit of a "right to fly". Guy

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Bobby said:

Can you provide a url for this ADA recommendation ?

Hi Bobby,

Here it is:

diabetes.orgadvocacy andOpen ↗
legalresources/discrimination/employment/faa_protocol.jsp

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The preflight BG must be 100-300 mg/dl.

This is a place to start. HTH,

Thanks I'll go read it in a minute. I was not douting your
word but just wanted to see for my self.

The shape those guys must be in that folled a recommendation
of this sort and kept their BGs at 300.

Bobby

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Bobby said:

Can you provide a url for this ADA recommendation ?

Hi Bobby,

Here it is:

diabetes.orgadvocacy andOpen ↗
legalresources/discrimination/employment/faa_protocol.jsp

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The preflight BG must be 100-300 mg/dl.

In fact, it goes further:

C. The individual with ITDM, acting as pilot-in-command or
other flightcrew member, shall establish and document a
blood glucose concentration equal to or greater than 100
milligrams/deciliter (mg/dl) but not greater than 300
Ca/dl within 1/2 hour prior to takeoff. During flight, the
individual with ITDM shall monitor his or her blood
glucose concentration at hourly intervals and within 1/2
hour prior to landing. If a blood glucose concentration
range of 100-300 mg/dl in not maintained, the following
action shall be taken:

So what they're saying is "You can't fly if you're hypo
(below 100) and you'd better do something if you're hyper
(300 or above) so just about ANY BG number in just about the
normal non diabetic range is fine then. That's a far cry
from what you said Jim.

You said:- recommendation for DM pilots was to elevate the
BG to 300 mg/dl while flying, as an example. That was
absolutely NOT what the recommendations are.

Beav

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Quoted message said:

You said:- recommendation for DM pilots was to elevate the
BG to 300 mg/dl while flying, as an example. That was
absolutely NOT what the recommendations are.

Beav

Beav

That was what had me worried at first too. In Jim's first
letter. However in his second one (this one you responded
to) he did get it right.

Hay sometime we all miss quote. No harm no foul.

Bobby

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You said:- recommendation for DM pilots was to elevate
the BG to 300

mg/dl

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while flying, as an example. That was absolutely NOT
what the recommendations are.

Beav

Beav

That was what had me worried at first too. In Jim's first
letter. However in his second one (this one you responded
to) he did get it right.

Hay sometime we all miss quote. No harm no foul.

And sometimes we get our time and attribution lines crossed.
I was responding to Jims FIRST (and at the time, only) quote
on the subject. More posts from Jim may have appeared later,
but I didn't see them until what 2 minutes ago.

However, as you say, no harm, but posting quotes should only
be done if they've been read :-)

Beav