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  1. Original post
    Mark Hagen
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    The Masters 45+ field was DQ'd in yesterday's Turtle Pond
    Circuit Race, with 1.5 laps remaining. The official in
    the follow car saw a rider toss a water bottle back onto
    the lawn adjacent to the parking area and immediately
    halted and DQ'd the field. A breakaway group of 3 was
    allowed to finish.

    At the start line, the officials had given plenty of warning
    of the types of behaviors that would not be tolerated, so we
    have no one to blame but ourselves. The guilty individual
    identified himself and immediately apologized to the field
    and to the officials. (Members of the field promptly threw
    the miscreant into a large pricker bush.)

    Folks, let this be a lesson to everyone. The promoters, the
    officials, and the towns will not tolerate our rude,
    inconsiderate, and selfish behavior. The result is that
    entire fields will get DQ'd: no ifs, ands, or buts, no
    refunds, nothing - just a DQ and go home.

    New England has a long, rich history of great cycling
    events. Unfortunately, many of these "classics" are no
    longer around; many due to problems created by the cyclists
    themselves. If we don't change the way we approach races and
    the way we conduct ourselves before, during, and after
    races, we'll have nothing but industrial park crits.

    Spread the news: Bad behavior will not be tolerated. Adjust
    your attitude and actions accordingly or find another
    activity. How much more clear does this need to be?

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  2. B. Lafferty
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    "Mark Hagen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Spread the news: Bad behavior will not be tolerated.
    Adjust your


    attitude and actions accordingly or find another activity.
    How much more clear does this need to be?

    And by publicizing the penal code, we should be able to
    reduce the crime rate. Good luck!

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  3. pedalchick
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    That's the stupidest thing I've heard in a long time. I've tossed a few bottles off in my time, especially if there's a hill. You say it was "adjacent to the parking area" which indicates to me an intent to come back for the bottle after the race.
    Stopping the field because of that is idiotic. Why not just recruit volunteers after the race to walk around the circuit and clean up all the stuff, especially if it's a short circuit?

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  4. B. Lafferty
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    "pedalchick" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    That's the stupidest thing I've heard in a long time. I've
    tossed a few bottles off in my time, especially if there's
    a hill. You say it was "adjacent to the parking area"
    which indicates to me an intent to come back for the
    bottle after the race. Stopping the field because of that
    is idiotic. Why not just recruit volunteers after the race
    to walk around the circuit and clean up all the stuff,
    especially if it's a short circuit?

    Can we have an analysis of the effect on energy expenditure
    from throwing a bottle off ones bicycle at the beginning of
    a 1 km climb at 8% gradient? I'd like the calculation for a
    20oz bottle full of Cytomax and for an empty bottle. The
    equasion should also factor in the energy expended in
    throwing the bottle full and empty.

    It seems that this is one more effect of the masses seeing
    bicycle racing on television. I don't think I saw a bottle
    thrown anywhere but in the start/finish area prior to around
    1985 when racing coverage started to become more frequent on
    tv. Monkey see, monkey do.

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  5. Casey Kerrigan
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    In article <[email hidden]>, pedalchick

    Quoted message said:

    That's the stupidest thing I've heard in a long time. I've
    tossed a few bottles off in my time, especially if there's
    a hill. You say it was "adjacent to the parking area"
    which indicates to me an intent to come back for the
    bottle after the race. Stopping the field because of that
    is idiotic. Why not just recruit volunteers after the race
    to walk around the circuit and clean up all the stuff,
    especially if it's a short circuit?

    USCF rule 3B9 "... Riders may not discard materials that are
    not biodegradable; they may pass or throw such material to
    support personnel in places far from any bystanders
    [relegation or disqualification for littering or
    unauthorized feeding]

    I know of road races where thrown off water bottles are a
    real issue to the local residents so if it is an issue that
    might cause a promoter to lose a race course I can see the
    penality being enforced.

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  6. Richard Adams
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    pedalchick <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    That's the stupidest thing I've heard in a long time. I've
    tossed a few bottles off in my time, especially if there's
    a hill. You say it was "adjacent to the parking area"
    which indicates to me an intent to come back for the
    bottle after the race. Stopping the field because of that
    is idiotic. Why not just recruit volunteers after the race
    to walk around the circuit and clean up all the stuff,
    especially if it's a short circuit?

    Maybe bike race organizers should invest in few of these.

    home.tiscali.beblikvanger.jpg

    I'm sure something from the fishing department of a sporting
    goods store would fit the bill.

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  7. John Forrest To
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    On Mon, 17 May 2004 17:35:02 GMT, "B. Lafferty" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    Can we have an analysis of the effect on energy expenditure
    from throwing a bottle off ones bicycle at the beginning of
    a 1 km climb at 8% gradient? I'd like the calculation for a
    20oz bottle full of Cytomax and for an empty bottle. The
    equasion should also factor in the energy expended in
    throwing the bottle full and empty.

    I've been tossing bottles in races because I can't stand
    having them in my back pocket. Sometimes it's essential to
    carry a bottle that way -- like when I need three bottles.
    But after I'm done with one bottle I toss it. This is
    espcially true in longer road races, where I start with some
    clothes that I take off and want to put in my back pocket.

    Usually -- say ten times a year -- I toss it in a place
    where I can pick it up later. Once or twice a year I toss a
    bottle with no intention of picking it up again. This is
    usually in a feed zone where I hope someone else will take
    it or toss it.

    JT

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  8. Richard Sachs
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    snipped:

    Mark Hagen said:

    The guilty individual identified himself and immediately
    apologized to the field and to the officials. (Members of
    the field promptly threw the miscreant into a large
    pricker bush.)

    mark - is this part true? e-RICHIE [email hidden]

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