Ganglian Cyst: A Result of Cycling?

GJ,

I believe the latest scientific consensus is that a ganglion
cyst is a mark of the Devil...

"Gary Jacobson" <[email hidden]>
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I wonder if this is amore common problem among cyclists
than in the

general

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population?

Ganglion cysts, it is thought, can arise from tendonitis
and arthritis. I think that the soft tissue in my hands
has been stressed from a relatively large volume of riding
this spring. For many years I've had pain in the

area

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that the cyst has sprouted, and I have always attributed
the pain to

riding.

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This year I moved away from anatomical bars for aesthetic
reasons. Maybe a dumb move.

No real treatment for it and unfortunately the cyst
interferes with the motion of my thumb and impinges on
nerves, and so I think riding will just makes it worse.

Anyone else had this problem, and did it lead to a change
of *cycling habits*? (It used to be thought that these
things could be cured by

hitting

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them with a bible. Maybe I need to consult a nun who
rides.)

Gary Jacobson Rosendale, NY

Quoted post said:

Originally posted by Gary Jacobson
I wonder if this is amore common problem among cyclists than
in the general population?

Ganglion cysts, it is thought, can arise from tendonitis
and arthritis. I think that the soft tissue in my hands
has been stressed from a relatively large volume of riding
this spring. For many years I've had pain in the area that
the cyst has sprouted, and I have always attributed the
pain to riding.

This year I moved away from anatomical bars for aesthetic
reasons. Maybe a dumb move.

No real treatment for it and unfortunately the cyst
interferes with the motion of my thumb and impinges on
nerves, and so I think riding will just makes it worse.

Anyone else had this problem, and did it lead to a change of
*cycling habits*? (It used to be thought that these things
could be cured by hitting them with a bible. Maybe I need to
consult a nun who rides.)

Gary Jacobson Rosendale, NY

Dear Gary,

Here's what a doctor pointed out last
October when the subject last came up:

<http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=20c7afc9.0310070217.14e5a004%40posting.google.com&output=gplain>

Note the comment about cancer.

He was too tactful to add that misguided
patients occasionally break their own wrists
in their enthusiasm.

Carl Fogel

Gary Jacobson said:

I wonder if this is amore common problem among cyclists
than in the general population?

Ganglion cysts, it is thought, can arise from tendonitis
and arthritis. I think that the soft tissue in my hands
has been stressed from a relatively large volume of riding
this spring. For many years I've had pain in the area that
the cyst has sprouted, and I have always attributed the
pain to riding.

This year I moved away from anatomical bars for aesthetic
reasons. Maybe a dumb move.

No real treatment for it and unfortunately the cyst
interferes with the motion of my thumb and impinges on
nerves, and so I think riding will just makes it worse.

Anyone else had this problem, and did it lead to a change
of *cycling habits*? (It used to be thought that these
things could be cured by hitting them with a bible. Maybe
I need to consult a nun who rides.)

Bang it with a copy of Zinn? 🙂

(Actually, I think that /really is/ an accepted treatment
for ganglion cysts -- pound 'em into submission?)

Bill "suggest consulting your doc" S.

carlfogel said:

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sting.google.com&output=gplain>

Or in a more easily browsed form: tinyurl.comysve9Open ↗

--
R.

<> Richard Brockie "Categorical statements <> The tall
blond one. always cause trouble." <>
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carlfogel said:

Gary Jacobson said:

I wonder if this is amore common problem among cyclists
than in the general population? Ganglion cysts, it is
thought, can arise from tendonitis and arthritis. I
think that the soft tissue in my hands has been
stressed from a relatively large volume of riding this
spring. For many years I've had pain in the area that
the cyst has sprouted, and I have always attributed the
pain to riding. This year I moved away from anatomical
bars for aesthetic reasons. Maybe a dumb move. No real
treatment for it and unfortunately the cyst interferes
with the motion of my thumb and impinges on nerves, and
so I think riding will just makes it worse. Anyone else
had this problem, and did it lead to a change of
*cycling habits*? (It used to be thought that these
things could be cured by hitting them with a bible.
Maybe I need to consult a nun who rides.) Gary Jacobson
Rosendale, NY

Dear Gary,

Here's what a doctor pointed out last October when the
subject last came up:

s.google.com/groups?selm=20c7afc9.0310070217.14e5a004%40po-
sting.google.com&output=gplain>

Note the comment about cancer.

He was too tactful to add that misguided patients
occasionally break their own wrists in their enthusiasm.

Carl Fogel

Dear Richard,

So much for the vaunted angled brackets! I was grossly
deceived about their power to contain even the longest
url. (Or the editor that I used added a hyphen and broke
the line.)

Thanks for smacking the swollen address flat with tinyurl.

Carl Fogel

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Dear Richard,

So much for the vaunted angled brackets! I was grossly
deceived about their power to contain even the longest
url. (Or the editor that I used added a hyphen and broke
the line.)

Thanks for smacking the swollen address flat with tinyurl.

Dear Carl,

I had never heard of angled brackets serving that function.
I must admit that I was stumped by the hyphen for a moment.

By the way, you have me thinking about getting my own Fury
roadmaster to play on - do they come big enough for
someone 6'4"?

--
R.

<> Richard Brockie "Categorical statements <> The tall
blond one. always cause trouble." <>
[email hidden]

Richard Brockie said:

Quoted message said:

Dear Richard,

So much for the vaunted angled brackets! I was grossly
deceived about their power to contain even the longest
url. (Or the editor that I used added a hyphen and broke
the line.)

Thanks for smacking the swollen address flat with
tinyurl.

Dear Carl,

I had never heard of angled brackets serving that function.
I must admit that I was stumped by the hyphen for a moment.

By the way, you have me thinking about getting my own Fury
roadmaster to play on - do they come big enough for
someone 6'4"?

Dear Richard,

Arrgh! Replied to the wrong post, but you still found
me. Bad day.

I hadn't heard of the angled bracket trick, either, but
here's where I saw it:

<groups.google.comgroupsOpen ↗
40fe13.usenetserver.com&output=gplain>

or

tinyurl.comyrarzOpen ↗

A different editor may let this long address survive.
Probably I just goofed something up, since Dave Ornee is
usually reliable.

As for the Fury RoadMaster, I suspect that it's only
available from WalMart and therefore beyond your grasp in
the UK. Here's the ad:

<walmart.comproduct.gspOpen ↗
4171&product_id=2073252&path=0%3A4171%3A61903%3A61904%3A418-
0%3A4183%3A5304#long_descr>

or

tinyurl.com2zy5pOpen ↗

I'm just a touch over six feet and around 195 pounds, but
luckily had a long seatpost of the right size lying around
from God knows what. Riders your height probably need custom
bikes anyway.

The Fury RoadMaster, as you can see in the specifications,
is intended for riders aged 10 to 17 (or 14 to adult,
depending on where you read) and the price has now risen
from $53.71 to $58.88, presumably due to demand for reliable
transportation caused by the rising gasoline prices being
discussed hopefully in other threads.

The forty-pound shipping weight (mostly cardboard, or so my
Fury assures me) would make export expensive.

Possibly there's a similar bike in a similar UK store?

Carl Fogel

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As for the Fury RoadMaster, I suspect that it's only
available from WalMart and therefore beyond your grasp in
the UK. Here's the ad:

Dear Carl,

Thanks for the links (which worked this time with the angled
brackets). Do not be mislead as to my location by the email
address - that is a vanity domain which advertises my
origin. I am currently located a little down the road from
Mike Jacoubowsky's shop where I worked shortly after moving
to the US.

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I'm just a touch over six feet and around 195 pounds, but
luckily had a long seatpost of the right size lying around
from God knows what. Riders your height probably need
custom bikes anyway.

I am on the borderline for custom - the old Klein 63cm size
of frames works very nicely for me. What diameter is the
seat post in the Fury?

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The Fury RoadMaster, as you can see in the specifications,
is intended for riders aged 10 to 17 (or 14 to adult,
depending on where you read) and the price has now risen
from $53.71 to $58.88, presumably due to demand for
reliable transportation caused by the rising gasoline
prices being discussed hopefully in other threads.

The forty-pound shipping weight (mostly cardboard, or so
my Fury assures me) would make export expensive.

Possibly there's a similar bike in a similar UK store?

Almost certainly, as Walmart (by another name), exists
in the UK.

--
R.

<> Richard Brockie "Categorical statements <> The tall
blond one. always cause trouble." <>
[email hidden]

"Gary Jacobson" <[email hidden]> wrote in
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Quoted message said:

Anyone else had this problem, and did it lead to a change
of *cycling habits*? (It used to be thought that these
things could be cured by hitting them with a bible. Maybe
I need to consult a nun who rides.)

Gary Jacobson Rosendale, NY

If the book trick doesn't work, you can have it drained.

--
Peder (Please reply to group only, email invalid)

Gary Jacobson said:

Anyone else had this problem, and did it lead to a change
of *cycling habits*? (It used to be thought that these
things could be cured by hitting them with a bible. Maybe
I need to consult a nun who rides.)

My non-cycling wife had one two years ago, I whacked it with
a heavy book (I think it was "Organic Chemistry"!) and it
never came back (the ganglion that is, not the wife).

Richard Brockie said:

By the way, you have me thinking about getting my own Fury
roadmaster to play on - do they come big enough for
someone 6'4"?

Yes, but only if you buy the bike stretcher (sold
separately). My bike stretcher is made by GMC and is powered
by an 8 cylinder internal combustion engine...just tie the
head tube to the bike stretcher, tie the rear triangle to a
tree, and stretch!
--
Rick Onanian

In <[email hidden]>,
[email hidden] opined:

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So much for the vaunted angled brackets! I was
grossly deceived about their power to contain even
the longest url.

Standard practice uses more than just angle brackets. It
also includes "url:" prefixed to the actual URI, and harks
back to a time when there may have actually been a need to
explain that something like yahoo.comyahoo.comOpen ↗ was a URL
and not, well, something else. So:

<url:http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=20c7afc9.03100702-
17.14e5a004%40posting.google.com&output=gplain>

may be what you meant to do.

My medical advice regarding my own ganglion cysts was
simply to leave them alone unless they were in a
particularly bothersome location, in which case they could
easily be corrected through a surgical office procedure. I
had the one at my right distal thumb joint treated because
it made writing difficult, and I'm about to have the one
on my forearm treated for the 21st century version of the
same reason, but the one near my elbow and the one in my
lower back just aren't much of a problem and will remain
as they are.

--
Dave Salovesh [email hidden] (REPLACE example WITH
mindspring TO EMAIL ME)

Gary Jacobson said:

This year I moved away from anatomical bars for aesthetic
reasons. Maybe a dumb move.

IME "anatomical" bars were far less anatomically appropriate
for me, and were uncomfortable and fugly to boot.

Quoted message said:

Anyone else had this problem, and did it lead to a change
of *cycling habits*? (It used to be thought that these
things could be cured by hitting them with a bible. Maybe
I need to consult a nun who rides.)

Any large book will do, it just ruptures the cyst and
disperses the fluid therein. A Bible was usually the
largest, heaviest book around the house.

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No real treatment for it and unfortunately the cyst
interferes with the motion of my thumb and impinges on
nerves, and so I think riding will just makes it worse.

Anyone else had this problem, and did it lead to a change
of *cycling habits*? (It used to be thought that these
things could be cured by hitting them with a bible. Maybe I
need to consult a nun who rides.)

they can be treated with a good wack. or the doc can tear it
with a needle and drain it. I had a big one on the side of
my foot. it got worse for weeks after the treatment then
went away.

--
Knight-Toolworks & Custom Planes Custom made wooden planes
at reasonable prices See knight-toolworks.comknight-toolworks.comOpen ↗ For
prices and ordering instructions.

From experience choose a book with a flexible cover and it
is challenging doing it yourself! The one on my wrist came
back and it was time for volume two. Luckily, there was no
third time.

"Steve Knight" <[email hidden]> wrote in
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No real treatment for it and unfortunately the cyst
interferes with the motion of my thumb and impinges on
nerves, and so I think riding will

just

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

makes it worse.

Anyone else had this problem, and did it lead to a change
of *cycling habits*? (It used to be thought that these
things could be cured by

hitting

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

them with a bible. Maybe I need to consult a nun who
rides.)

they can be treated with a good wack. or the doc can tear
it with a needle

and

Quoted message said:

drain it. I had a big one on the side of my foot. it got
worse for weeks

after

Quoted message said:

the treatment then went away.

--
Knight-Toolworks & Custom Planes Custom made wooden planes
at reasonable prices See knight-toolworks.comknight-toolworks.comOpen ↗
For prices and ordering instructions.

I tried this, boy did that hurt (and it didn't work). Steve.

Gary Jacobson said:

... Anyone else had this problem, and did it lead to a
change of *cycling habits*? (It used to be thought that
these things could be cured by hitting them with a bible.
Maybe I need to consult a nun who rides.)

Gary Jacobson Rosendale, NY

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"Gary Jacobson" [email hidden] wrote: >Anyone else had

this problem, and did it lead to a change of *cycling

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habits*? (It used to be thought that these things could be
cured by hitting them with a bible.

I developed one of these a while back after a particularly
exuberant day of jumping waves on a jetski among other
things. Mine is on the top of my right wrist (palm facing
down) just to the left of center. Basically several people
told me to see a doctor - but - they'd had the same problem
and whacked it with a book. Internet research said that it
is the result of fluid buildup in a sheath and it can be
drained or removed surgically. Oddly enough, mine started to
subside one day after massaging the forearm muscle near my
elbow. It gets a little bigger occasionally so I tap it
against the edge of my desktop. It's a little more
controllable than trusting someone's book aiming prowess.
Now I understand why everyone told me to see a doctor after
not doing so themselves.

Tim

"Dave Salovesh" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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In <[email hidden]>,
[email hidden] opined:

Quoted message said:

So much for the vaunted angled brackets! I was
grossly deceived about their power to contain even
the longest url.

Standard practice uses more than just angle brackets. It
also includes "url:" prefixed to the actual URI, and harks
back to a time when there may have actually been a need to
explain that something like yahoo.comyahoo.comOpen ↗ was a URL
and not, well, something else. So:

<url:http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=20c7afc9.03100702-
17.14e5a004%40pos ting.google.com&output=gplain>

<url:http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=20c7afc9.03100702-
17.14e5a004%40pos ting.google.com&output=gplain

"Richard Brockie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Dear Richard,

So much for the vaunted angled brackets! I was grossly
deceived about their power to contain even the longest
url. (Or the editor that I used added a hyphen and broke
the line.)

Thanks for smacking the swollen address flat with
tinyurl.

Dear Carl,

I had never heard of angled brackets serving that
function. I must admit that I was stumped by the hyphen
for a moment.

By the way, you have me thinking about getting my own Fury
roadmaster to play on - do they come big enough for
someone 6'4"?

If not, just enclose yourself in angled brackets. It
should fit then.

Dave