bike totalled =/

On 2004-06-04, spademan o---[) * penned:

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"Monique Y. Mudama" <[email hidden]> wrote in
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Long story short, woman drives over my bike with her Jeep
Liberty.

<snip bad stuff>

Arghh that sounds awful, nearly worse than getting it
stolen because you might have to argue which bits are
'unuseable'. If it were me I'd try and get the whole thing
replaced. Stresses in the forks/handlebars etc might not
show up now but may have shortened there lifespan
dramatically.

Yeah. That's my instinct, as well. The last thing I want is
to be riding down something difficult and have some part of
the bike snap.

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Should be loads about, try some out, post feedback here,
pick the mostly suitable for your riding frequency/style
and ignore the loons.

SOP, then =)

--
monique

On 2004-06-04, sittingduck penned:

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/me shouts from a safe distance: Go buy a new bike! You
have to anyway... now you have an excuse, and eventual re-
imbursement!

Let's hope ... I don't trust that an insurance company will
do jack until they actually do it.

--
monique

On 2004-06-04, gabrielle penned:

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<sputter>

This totally sucks, and then to have the (ir)responsible
party not even own up to it....gah!!! What a cow.

I think she was in full-on "I don't want to admit anything
in case this goes to court" mode.

Whatever. I have the contact info of a willing witness who
saw the whole thing in detail, and on top of that I have 30
or so women from my ride group who were milling about. I
would hope that will be enough proof.

I still feel awful now =/ Had a late-night concert tonight,
but I think I'm going to give the tickets to friends. I
don't feel like dealing with it.

--
monique

Quoted post said:

Originally posted by Monique Y. Muda
Long story short, woman drives over my bike with her
Jeep Liberty.


Let the flame war begin ...

--
monique

Holy Schnikes!!!!
I am very sorry to hear about your loss!
I thought I felt a disturance in the force ;-P
Best of Luck on your new bike!!!
I couldn't add any better advice than what Rog said. Maybe you can borrow someone's spare bike while you search for the perfect next ride.

---> Jimbo(san)

"Monique Y. Mudama" <[email hidden]> wrote

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Long story short, woman drives over my bike with her Jeep
Liberty.

Condolences.

The bike is dead. Long live the bike!

CC

On 2004-06-04, bomba penned:

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On Thu, 03 Jun 2004 23:13:56 -0600, Monique Y.

Mudama said:

Any ideas on decent full-suspension bikes under $2K? This
one was about $1.5K, and it worked well for me, although
of course I wouldn't know any better, anyway.

For $2K you could get the sweetest fully rigid SS...

I bet I could. Not for me, not yet ...

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Assuming you're looking at XC/trail FS, if it was my cash,
these are the bikes that I would be looking at:
Specialized Stumpy FSR Expert - $1850 without discs, $2170
with Marin Rift Zone - $1890 Kona Kikapu Deluxe - $1600
Orange 5 - Not sure what they sell for in the US, but
should be in your budget

Thanks for those ideas. I might not have tripped up on those
myself. I'll have to see if I can find them around here.

--
monique

On 2004-06-04, spademan o---[) * penned:

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"Monique Y. Mudama" <[email hidden]> wrote in
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Any ideas on decent full-suspension bikes under $2K? This
one was about $1.5K, and it worked well for me, although
of course I wouldn't know any better, anyway.

Isn't supergo or one of those huge mail-order shops doing
Turner Burners with a manitou shock for under $1000? You
should able to get a decent bike build with the other
$1000...

Dunno ... but I don't know my fit well enough to buy a bike
on faith. Thanks for the thought, though.

--
monique

On 2004-06-04, Ride-A-Lot penned:

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For $2000 you should be able to pick up a decent FS. I
tried one of those Enduros with the "brain" shock and it
was real sweet. Don't limit yourself to a particular brand
just because its the only one your LBS sells. Go to other
LBS's and try out different brands. Then go back to your
LBS and have them special order it for you. I've done this
in the past and they will match the price plus you get to
keep the LBS you like.

I definitely don't want to limit myself by a shop's
selection. That being said, if a bike shop goes to the
trouble of helping me pick out a bike, I don't want to
abuse them by then going and having another shop make the
profit ...

(Of course, it depends on how good a job they did with
the picking.)

--
monique

On 2004-06-04, Westie penned:

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Wow. This exact same thing happened to me with my, less
than 12 months old, NRS2. I feel your pain.

Trouble was that the woman in question was my
uninsured sister. I've only recently welcomed her back
into the family.

I remember that! Ugh.

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Here's what happened with the insurance company when 'I'
reversed over my bike: Read the fine print. A bicycle
isn't a household appliance or furniture under 10 years
old - as detailed in the policy. My "full replacement"
policy would only reimburse me about 40% of the bikes
retail value! Yep. That's what I thought.

I asked my homeowner's about this in detail, so I think
we're covered, but now would be a good time to doublecheck,
since I'll be talking to them anyway.

If the driver's insurance company tries to f around, I don't
know what I'll do, but it will be drastic.

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I kicked up a fuss and even asked another guy at another
branch of the same company what he thought. He thought
that it was harsh and suggested that I write a letter of
complaint to head office. I didn't in the end. I moaned
and [censored] to the woman handling my claim and despite
feeling bad about making a fuss, I managed to increase the
payout by quite a few hundred dollars AND I demanded that
they give me the wreck (normally they would have retained
it and sold it off for what they could get) since the
payout was so 'goddamned' low. I sold the parts on the
wreck that I had no use for (rear shock, bars, rear disc
brakes etc) for another couple of hundred. I then used the
other bits to upgrade an old bike that I didn't use. I use
it as a second bike now but I could have sold it off for
$700 with the upgrades!

In the end I still didn't get nearly full replacement but
I did get, by hook or by crook, a decent beater/loan bike,
a few more dollars and a 'cheap' new bike.

*nod*

One concern Eric has with looking for a new bike is that the
insurance company may solve the problem by simply buying me
a new bike. In that case, if I've gone out and bought a bike
myself, I'm in trouble.

--
monique

On 2004-06-04, Roger Buchanan penned:

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Ouch! And a Jeep Liberty no less. What an ignoble demise
for a loved steed.

As usual, pay attention to the fit of the bike, and don't
be afraid to ask for changes in the Grips, Pedals and
Seat when shopping. Those are your major contact points
with the bike, and they should feel perfect for you.
Also, swapping stems and bars is no big deal at the time
of the sale.

Any changes or modifications to the new bike are best
dealt with at the time of the sale, as you'll get a much
better financial deal at that point. (My bike came with
generic clipless pedals, and I got some Carbon Time's
ATACs for $70 Canadian. Did the same with the fork,
upgraded to a Bomber at the time of purchase.)

Bike shops are usually pretty flexible when asked nicely
at the time of purchase, or if it is a make or break
decision factor.

Take your time, get all the details of the new bike sorted
out, then have fun buying your second generation bike.

Thanks for these suggestions.

--
monique

On 2004-06-04, John Harlow penned:

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The worst thing is, I've been so psyched about biking

Just be glad you weren't on it! It's just metal, you'll be
riding again soon before you know it.

Let's hope. Meantime, I can already feel all the hard work I
put into my legs melting away!

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Giants and Specailized have proven to be excellent
choices.

I tried a Specialized when I was looking around and didn't
care for it, but it was a cheaper bike and I'm not sure I
knew what I was looking for.

--
monique

On 2004-06-04, Jimbo penned:

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Monique Y. Muda said:

Long story short, woman drives over my bike with her
Jeep Liberty. Let the flame war begin ... -- monique

Holy Schnikes!!!! I am very sorry to hear about your loss!
I thought I felt a disturance in the force ;-P Best of
Luck on your new bike!!! I couldn't add any better advice
than what Rog said. Maybe you can borrow someone's spare
bike while you search for the perfect next ride.

I'm hoping that, too. Of course, it would have to be someone
shaped about like me ...

--
monique

Monique Y. Mudama said:

On 2004-06-04, sittingduck penned:

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/me shouts from a safe distance: Go buy a new bike! You
have to anyway... now you have an excuse, and eventual
re-imbursement!

Let's hope ... I don't trust that an insurance company
will do jack until they actually do it.

they will always try and get you on the fine print. My
pal, Tuffgrrl and her BF recently had theft loss as in
someone backed a truck up to the house and ransacked it
while they were are work. They got his brand new Heckler,
his 6K DH rig, and gawd knows what else. Even with
replacement value insurance and receipts for everything,
the bikes were depreciated and that's what they got paid
on... depreciated value. Then, they are supposed to re-
submit the receipts from the replacement shopping spree,
and get reimbursed a second time for the difference. That
seems really screwed up to me.

Now to finish the tale.. the word has been out about Eric's
bikes. At a shop on the NS of town, where Tuffgirl hadn't
gotten the flyer up yet, some creepy guy pulled up in a
beater - real beater, windshield duct taped into place - and
had a Heckler that he wanted to sell. "My uncle gave it to
me and I don't want it". The whole thing looked pretty fishy
so the lbs guy said that he knew someone who might want it,
got the phone number, and then the guy freaked and ran out
of the store. The cops went after him and not only recovered
the bike but a houseful of stolen goods and the guy is
wanted on a bunch of murder charges too!!!! The bike is in
"OK" condition... it was missing a rear brake, scratched up,
and some other parts has been disassembled and reassembled
by clueless people. He is getting some insurance
compensation for it. The DH rig has not shown up. Evidently
the insurance company has a 5K reward for people that turn
in information that lead to arrests, so they are trying to
make that happen for the lbs guy. penny

My vote, look at Supergo's blowout on Turner Burner frames
supergo.comprofile.cfmOpen ↗
74&searchtext=&referpage= use the components off your bike
that are not damaged.

LPROD_ID=25183&lmfg_id=274&searchtext=&referpage= "Monique
Y. Mudama" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Long story short, woman drives over my bike with her Jeep
Liberty.

I have called her insurance company and I guess an
adjuster will be contacting me. (He said "tomorrow or
Monday" and I said, "No, it will be tomorrow. I can't
wait till Monday just to find out what you're going to do
about this.)

Meantime, I had Troy from mtbchick.com go over the bike.
In addition to a bent rear derailleur, bent/cracked wheel,
f'd up rear brakes, misc. other parts, the part of the
rear triangle to which the derailleur hanger attaches is
bent, Troy saw differences in width on all the pivots, and
there's flaking paint on the frame (on a bike less than a
year old that has never had paint issues). Apparently that
signifies the frame being bent. (Pardon if I got some of
the terms wrong; I think you get the idea. As usual, if I
got a concept wrong it's my bad and not the original
source's.)

It's totalled. The above is some subset of the "best case
scenario."

Hopefully, the insurance company won't jerk me around and
will just fork over the replacement costs, but ... well,
we'll see.

The worst thing is, I've been so psyched about biking ...
I've been riding every day and getting mentally prepped
for a race ... and now this. Serious downtime. I'm having
trouble just realizing that I won't be able to ride this
*weekend*.

Sigh.

Well.

Any ideas on decent full-suspension bikes under $2K? This
one was about $1.5K, and it worked well for me, although
of course I wouldn't know any better, anyway.

I like University Bikes in Boulder, but they only sell
Trek, Giant, and Specialized (or something like that) ...
this second time around, I'd like to be smart about it and
really try out some different designs. I may go right back
to what I had, but it's good to be educated.

Let the flame war begin ...

--
monique

Dean A. Stepper said:

My vote, look at Supergo's blowout on Turner Burner frames
supergo.comprofile.cfmOpen ↗
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bike that are not damaged.

I'd go with that!

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On 2004-06-04, Dean A. Stepper penned:

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My vote, look at Supergo's blowout on Turner Burner frames
supergo.comprofile.cfmOpen ↗
=274&searchtext=&referpage= use the components off your
bike that are not damaged.

That would be the front wheel, which wasn't attached at
the time ...

--
monique

Monique Y. Mudama said:

On 2004-06-04, John Harlow penned:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

The worst thing is, I've been so psyched about biking

Just be glad you weren't on it! It's just metal, you'll
be riding again soon before you know it.

Let's hope. Meantime, I can already feel all the hard work
I put into my legs melting away!

Quoted message said:

Giants and Specailized have proven to be excellent
choices.

I tried a Specialized when I was looking around and didn't
care for it, but it was a cheaper bike and I'm not sure I
knew what I was looking for.

They aren't for everyone, but I've had three Specialized
and MrsB is on her second (a Stumpjumper Epic). We like
them and fortunately for us the shop where she works is a
Specialized dealer and they give us great deals on them.
You should give a Stumpjumper level bike a try as well as
everything else you can swing a leg over. Our LBS also
carries Tomac which I hear people seem to like (and surely
someone here will hate).

And so sorry to hear about the demise of your bike! I hope
it gets resolved quickly. You may also want to try telling
the insurance company you need to train for upcoming races.
It may not help at all, but if you get someone sympathetic
it might expedite things a little. Good luck!

Matt

PS - Go to the concert and have some fun to get your mind
off this! Worrying about it won't help at all!

PP - Who's playing?

"Monique Y. Mudama" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

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Long story short, woman drives over my bike with her Jeep
Liberty.

[snip tale of woe]

That sucks. Good to know nobody was hurt.

Keep your witness list for small-claims court. Then you can
really put the screws to her. 🙂

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Any ideas on decent full-suspension bikes under $2K? This
one was about $1.5K, and it worked well for me, although
of course I wouldn't know any better, anyway.

You'll get a boat-load. 🙂

If you're going to race, you need a lightweight bike.
(Guessing from your story) To [censored] JD, you need to get a
Trek, Kona or Fisher.

Seriously now, ride 'em all. Which ever one fits best and
has the best component spec for your dollar, get that
one. It's your money - don't listen to a bunch of
"experts" in USENET.

Some things are generally agreed, however: Trek/GF/Klein
bikes and their Bontrager components are not really the best
bike for the money. If you could swap out those house
branded parts, you'd be in better shape.

Every Giant or Marin bike I have ridden have felt good, and
have had decent parts for the dough. Go for a fork swap so
that you can have a Bomber or a Fox - they are really better
than RS or Manitou.

Now, ignore everything I've said, 'cuz it's not my money,
and I don't have to ride whatever you buy.

If you really want to ride this weekend, spend $100 on
a used beater at the LBS and just ride. That way you
won't be pressured to buy "right now" because you have
nothing to ride.

Good luck, with getting your money, getting that [censored] to
apologize for killing your ride, and buying a shiny, new,
better beast. 🙂
--
Jonesy

bomba said:

On Thu, 03 Jun 2004 23:13:56 -0600, Monique Y.
Mudama wrote:

Quoted message said:

For $2K you could get the sweetest fully rigid SS...

Assuming you're looking at XC/trail FS, if it was my cash,
these are the bikes that I would be looking at:
Specialized Stumpy FSR Expert - $1850 without discs, $2170
with Marin Rift Zone - $1890 Kona Kikapu Deluxe - $1600
Orange 5 - Not sure what they sell for in the US, but
should be in your budget

That Specialized Stumpy is a darn nice bike, and available
stock is getting low pretty fast. Nice design, good value,
pretty well executed.

--
Craig Brossman, Durango Colorado (remove ".nospam" to reply)

On Thu, 3 Jun 2004 23:13:56 -0600, "Monique Y. Mudama"
<[email hidden]> blathered:

Quoted message said:

Long story short, woman drives over my bike with her Jeep

It was a Trek, right?

Quoted message said:

I have called her insurance company and I guess an adjuster
will be contacting me. (He said "tomorrow or Monday" and I
said, "No, it will be tomorrow. I can't wait till Monday
just to find out what you're going to do about this.)

Meantime, I had Troy from mtbchick.com go over the bike. In
addition to a bent rear derailleur, bent/cracked wheel, f'd
up rear brakes, misc. other parts, the part of the rear
triangle to which the derailleur hanger attaches is bent,
Troy saw differences in width on all the pivots, and
there's flaking paint on the frame (on a bike less than a
year old that has never had paint issues). Apparently that
signifies the frame being bent. (Pardon if I got some of
the terms wrong; I think you get the idea. As usual, if I
got a concept wrong it's my bad and not the original
source's.)

It's totalled. The above is some subset of the "best case
scenario."

Hopefully, the insurance company won't jerk me around and
will just fork over the replacement costs, but ... well,
we'll see.

The worst thing is, I've been so psyched about biking ...
I've been riding every day and getting mentally prepped for
a race ... and now this. Serious downtime. I'm having
trouble just realizing that I won't be able to ride this
*weekend*.

Sigh.

Well.

Any ideas on decent full-suspension bikes under $2K? This
one was about $1.5K, and it worked well for me, although of
course I wouldn't know any better, anyway.

I like University Bikes in Boulder, but they only sell
Trek, Giant, and Specialized (or something like that) ...
this second time around, I'd like to be smart about it and
really try out some different designs. I may go right back
to what I had, but it's good to be educated.

Let the flame war begin ...

Pete