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RogerC said:

Is there a formal definition of each cat.

No.

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RogerC said:

Is there a formal definition of each cat.

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Jij hier? Het rondje IJsselmeer is trouwens dit jaar op een
verkeerde datum. Ik heb sponsorverplichtingen in Daun
tijdens de Vulkan Bike MTB Marathon (www.vulkanbike.de). Is
wel jammer overigens, want ik rijd dit jaar als een trein.
(Maandag nog effe Veenendaal-Amsterdam-Veenendaal á 165 km
om een vergeten jasje op te halen).

cheers,

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Bert L. said:

Het rondje IJsselmeer is trouwens dit jaar op een
verkeerde datum.

Yeah, 9/11...

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Ik heb sponsorverplichtingen

Ah, Mr. Pro bike rider!!

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Bert L. said:

Het rondje IJsselmeer is trouwens dit jaar op een
verkeerde datum.

Yeah, 9/11...

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Ik heb sponsorverplichtingen

Ah, Mr. Pro bike rider!!

Ik overdrijf (veel en graag). Wil gewoon graag de serie van
vijf mtb marathons (waar ik als assistent de IT van doe)
volledig meemaken en meerijden. En de beide ritten vallen
samen. Ik had de heren Nereïden ook al op de ongelukkige
samenhang met 9.11 gewezen, maar dat mag weer geen reden
zijn om niet te fietsen.

cheers,.

Bert

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Bert L. said:

Jij hier? Het rondje IJsselmeer is trouwens dit jaar op een
verkeerde datum. Ik heb sponsorverplichtingen in Daun
tijdens de Vulkan Bike MTB Marathon (www.vulkanbike.de). Is
wel jammer overigens, want ik rijd dit jaar als een trein.
(Maandag nog effe Veenendaal-Amsterdam-Veenendaal á 165 km
om een vergeten jasje op te halen).

Doesn't it hurt your throat, writing like that?

--
Dave...

Get a bicycle. You will not regret it. If you live. -
Mark Twain

Dave Kahn said:

Bert L. said:

Jij hier? Het rondje IJsselmeer is trouwens dit jaar op
een verkeerde datum. Ik heb sponsorverplichtingen in Daun
tijdens de Vulkan Bike MTB Marathon (www.vulkanbike.de).
Is wel jammer overigens, want ik rijd dit jaar als een
trein. (Maandag nog effe Veenendaal-Amsterdam-Veenendaal
á 165 km om een vergeten jasje op te halen).

Doesn't it hurt your throat, writing like that?

Plenty of phlegm, that's the secret.

--
Keith Willoughby flat222.orgkeithOpen ↗ Keep on
keeping on.

Keith Willoughby said:

Dave Kahn said:

Bert L. said:

Jij hier? Het rondje IJsselmeer is trouwens dit jaar op
een verkeerde datum. Ik heb sponsorverplichtingen in Daun
tijdens de Vulkan Bike MTB Marathon (www.vulkanbike.de).
Is wel jammer overigens, want ik rijd dit jaar als een
trein. (Maandag nog effe Veenendaal-Amsterdam-Veenendaal
á 165 km om een vergeten jasje op te halen).

Doesn't it hurt your throat, writing like that?

Plenty of phlegm, that's the secret.

Hence the term Phlegmish.

--
Dave...

Get a bicycle. You will not regret it. If you live. -
Mark Twain

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Keith Willoughby said:

Dave Kahn said:

On Wed, 9 Jun 2004 19:18:21 +0200, "Bert L."
<[email hidden]> wrote:

>Jij hier? Het rondje IJsselmeer is trouwens dit jaar op
>een verkeerde datum. Ik

heb

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>sponsorverplichtingen in Daun tijdens de Vulkan Bike
>MTB Marathon (www.vulkanbike.de). Is wel jammer
>overigens, want ik rijd dit jaar als

een

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>trein. (Maandag nog effe Veenendaal-Amsterdam-
>Veenendaal á 165 km om

een

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>vergeten jasje op te halen).

Doesn't it hurt your throat, writing like that?

Plenty of phlegm, that's the secret.

Hence the term Phlegmish.

--
Dave...

I've started my training in vocal use of this language at
the age of 1. Writing was little more difficult, but I have
succeeded to grasp the essentials. Fancy taking some
lessons in Dutch?

Bert L. from NL (EU)

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Keith Willoughby said:

Dave Kahn said:

On Wed, 9 Jun 2004 19:18:21 +0200, "Bert L."
<[email hidden]> wrote:

>Jij hier? Het rondje IJsselmeer is trouwens dit jaar op
>een verkeerde datum. Ik heb sponsorverplichtingen in
>Daun tijdens de Vulkan Bike MTB Marathon
>(www.vulkanbike.de). Is wel jammer overigens, want ik
>rijd dit jaar als een trein. (Maandag nog effe Veenendaal-Amsterdam-
>Veenendaal á 165 km om een vergeten jasje op te halen).

Doesn't it hurt your throat, writing like that?

Plenty of phlegm, that's the secret.

Hence the term Phlegmish.

When in Amsterdam you must try Vlamsefrites (Flemish fries)
2kg of chips with 1/2 a kilo of mayonaise of various
flavours all served rolled up in paper British stylee ;-)

Bert L. said:

I've started my training in vocal use of this language at
the age of 1. Writing was little more difficult, but I have
succeeded to grasp the essentials. Fancy taking some
lessons in Dutch?

I have ordered Pete the "teach yourself Dutch in 3 weeks"
books (or something like that) so once they arrive he will
be throatscraping all over the place to practise 🙂

Roos

Roos Eisma said:

I have ordered Pete the "teach yourself Dutch in 3 weeks"
books (or something like that) so once they arrive he will
be throatscraping all over the place to practise 🙂

So far I have merely been slaughtering the odd word (useful
ones like "kaas" and "ligfiets"😉, and am laying in a supply
of Fisherman's Friends.

Pete.
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ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital Fax 44 1382
640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK net
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Dave Kahn wrote:

> On Wed, 9 Jun 2004 19:18:21 +0200, "Bert L."
> <[email hidden]> wrote:
>
>>Jij hier? Het rondje IJsselmeer is trouwens dit jaar
>>op een verkeerde datum. Ik

heb

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>>sponsorverplichtingen in Daun tijdens de Vulkan Bike
>>MTB Marathon (www.vulkanbike.de). Is wel jammer
>>overigens, want ik rijd dit jaar

als een

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>>trein. (Maandag nog effe Veenendaal-Amsterdam-
>>Veenendaal á 165 km om

een

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>>vergeten jasje op te halen).
>
> Doesn't it hurt your throat, writing like that?

Plenty of phlegm, that's the secret.

Hence the term Phlegmish.

When in Amsterdam you must try Vlamsefrites (Flemish
fries) 2kg of chips with 1/2 a kilo of mayonaise of
various flavours all served rolled up in paper British
stylee ;-)

When there, please visit this restaurant: www.tlieverdje.nl
You will get your Flemish Fries from my brother in law. When
you smile and tell him you were referred to him by me (I'm
his webmaster) and you know me from the internet bike scene,
you'll get a nice bikers discount.

Bert L.am (from NL, EU)

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On Wed, 09 Jun 2004 21:20:25 +0100, Keith Willoughby
<[email hidden]> wrote:

>Dave Kahn wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 9 Jun 2004 19:18:21 +0200, "Bert L."
>> <[email hidden]> wrote:
>>
>>>Jij hier? Het rondje IJsselmeer is trouwens dit
>>>jaar op een verkeerde datum. Ik

heb

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>>>sponsorverplichtingen in Daun tijdens de Vulkan
>>>Bike MTB Marathon (www.vulkanbike.de). Is wel
>>>jammer overigens, want ik rijd dit jaar

als een

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>>>trein. (Maandag nog effe Veenendaal-Amsterdam-
>>>Veenendaal á 165 km om

een

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>>>vergeten jasje op te halen).
>>
>> Doesn't it hurt your throat, writing like that?
>
>Plenty of phlegm, that's the secret.

Hence the term Phlegmish.

Actually, it's the Dutch that scrape their throat and
disperse a royal amount of phlegm while conversing. If you
(and others) had any clue you'd know that even the "Dutch"
(actually, if used correctly Dutch (Diets) refers to
Netherlanders & Flemings. Except in English of course...)
say that "Flemish" is much softer to the ear.

But you're British. I understand.

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When in Amsterdam you must try Vlamsefrites (Flemish
fries) 2kg of

Vlaamse friet/frieten (coming from frituren, meaning to
fry). Frites is French.

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chips with 1/2 a kilo of mayonaise of various flavours
all served rolled up in paper British stylee ;-)

When there, please visit this restaurant:
www.tlieverdje.nl You will get your Flemish Fries from my
brother in law. When you smile and tell him you were
referred to him by me (I'm his webmaster) and you know me
from the internet bike scene, you'll get a nice bikers
discount.

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Bert L.am (from NL, EU)

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Actually, it's the Dutch that scrape their throat and
disperse a royal amount of phlegm while conversing. If you
(and others) had any clue

Actually, old chap, it's somewhat harsh of you to be so down
on your audience for having such a poor knowledge of Dutch
when said audience consists almost entirely of UK types who
read uk.rec.cycling.

For example, I speak several languages and can read quite a
lot of some others. But if I posted here in, say, Russian,
I'd expect a bit of stick from the locals.

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you'd know that even the "Dutch" (actually, if used
correctly Dutch (Diets) refers to Netherlanders &
Flemings. Except in English of course...) say that
"Flemish" is much softer to the ear.

The Flemish are Flemish because they chose not to be Dutch.

English has a lot of oddities that are peculiar to it.
Borrowing words wholesale for example, like "trek" and
"derailleur" and "eigenvector".

I gather, for another example, that Dutch doesn't have a
single word to describe the peculiarly English concept of
"gullible".

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But you're British. I understand.

It's a failing shared by about 60 million people.

Now what does this have to do with Le Tour?
--
Mark South: World Citizen, Net Denizen, Clever Linguist

Bert L. said:

I've started my training in vocal use of this language at
the age of 1. Writing was little more difficult, but I have
succeeded to grasp the essentials. Fancy taking some
lessons in Dutch?

A Dutch colleague once recited some Dutch tongue twisters
for me. They sounded most impressive, and quite impossible
for a non-native speaker.

--
Dave...

Get a bicycle. You will not regret it. If you live. -
Mark Twain

(triumvir) said:

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Dave Kahn <[email hidden]> wrote in message

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> Hence the term Phlegmish.

Actually, it's the Dutch that scrape their throat and
disperse a royal amount of phlegm while conversing. If you
(and others) had any clue you'd know that even the "Dutch"
(actually, if used correctly Dutch (Diets) refers to
Netherlanders & Flemings. Except in English of course...)
say that "Flemish" is much softer to the ear.

I was stretching the point somewhat in order to make a pun.

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But you're British. I understand.

I have managed to acquire French, Norwegian and Russian, but
admittedly the language spoken in the Netherlands remains
Double Dutch to me.

--
Dave...

Get a bicycle. You will not regret it. If you live. -
Mark Twain

On 11/6/04 2:39 pm, in article [email hidden],

Dave Kahn said:

I have managed to acquire French, Norwegian and Russian,
but admittedly the language spoken in the Netherlands
remains Double Dutch to me.

Spoken maybe but do you find that you can read a lot of it
(if you sort of pretend it is Norwegian Oranjeboom?

I was quite surprised how much Afrikaans I could understand
when I visited South Afrika after learning Norwegian.

..d

David Martin said:

On 11/6/04 2:39 pm, in article
[email hidden], "Dave Kahn"
<[email hidden]> wrote:

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I have managed to acquire French, Norwegian and Russian,
but admittedly the language spoken in the Netherlands
remains Double Dutch to me.

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Spoken maybe but do you find that you can read a lot of it
(if you sort of pretend it is Norwegian Oranjeboom?

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I was quite surprised how much Afrikaans I could understand
when I visited South Afrika after learning Norwegian.

And, the other way around, how easy Norwegian is once
you have learnt Dutch and English. Again, written rather
than spoken...

Roos

On 11/6/04 3:22 pm, in article [email hidden], "Roos

Eisma said:

And, the other way around, how easy Norwegian is once you
have learnt Dutch and English. Again, written rather than
spoken...

And the rules for translating the various funny characters
and sounds..

(&oslash; => oe, &ae; => ae, &aring; => aa and kj means
clear your throat ;-)

..d