I've been Vandemanized

"Pete Rissler" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Hey all,

Just received an email about the Bull Ranch - Cow Canyon
Video. It seems a well know opponent to MT biking is using
the video to thrash Mountain Biking. I was wondering why
there was so many downloads, maybe I should

send

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him a thank you? I feel kinda honored. Below is the email.
Just for your information most of the trails in the video
are Motorcycle Trails, still a great place to ride. Now I
need to go clean the road kill off my bike. If only I can
get off the couch because of my aching back.

Pete Rissler

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From: Mike Vandeman []"][email hidden]]

Sent: Saturday, June 12, 2004 6:43 AM

To: Recipient list suppressed

Subject: Please Watch This Video!

It was shot from a mountain bike. It shows EXACTLY what a
waste of time mountain biking is. The riders pass through
some beautiful country, but obviously too fast to SEE or
EXPERIENCE any of it! That's like treating dancing as if
it were just a means of getting from one side of a room to

the

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other. How sad!

You can also see the rutting that mountain biking causes
in the trail. And notice how the camera continually bumps
up and down. The rider is experiencing every one of those
bumps. It would be amazing, if that

rattling

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didn't damage their bodies. I tried it once, on a dirt
road. It was absolutely the most unpleasant time I have
ever spent in a park in my

life.

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Why anyone would want to do that to themselves (to say
nothing of doing it to the park, wildlife, and other trail
users) is beyond me.

It is also clear that it is IMPOSSIBLE to be aware of all
the small

animals

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and plants killed on this ride. The rider is going too
fast, and has to

give

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his full attention to not crashing.

P.S. It's best to watch it over a high-speed Internet
connection.

"Pete Rissler" <[email hidden]> wrote
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:"]news:[email hidden]:

"Here's a video off our local mountain (Peavine) here in
Reno, NV. About

7.5

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mins, 70 MB. Video shot in April.

tccycling.combull ranch cow canyon.mpgOpen ↗"

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I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-
limits to humans ("pure habitat"😉. Want to help? (I spent
the previous 8 years fighting

auto

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dependence and road construction.)

home.pacbell.netmjvandeOpen ↗

that looked like some fun ST indeed.

I like this statement " tried it once, on a dirt road. It
was absolutely the most unpleasant time I have ever spent in
a park in my life"

So, because one person doesn't like it, understand it, or
desire to do it, nobody else should too? Good god man,
that's what makes us all individuals. If we all wanted
the same experiences out of life we'd just be little
robots merely passing through a useless existence. Then
again, this statement is also coming from a person whose
passions include the ham radio and languages. because
those are fun pastimes!

although Mikey claims to be anti-anything human in the
environment, his argument really loses credibiilty when he
is complaining about MTB's in an area where Motorcycles are
allowed. then again, he's the perfrect picture of hypocrisy
anyway since he advocates an area totally devoid of human
interaction yet regularly hikes and enters the same
wilderness that he says we should stay out of.

count yourself honored that you were the example.

Michael

Pete Rissler said:

Hey all,

Just received an email about the Bull Ranch - Cow Canyon
Video. It seems a well know opponent to MT biking is using
the video to thrash Mountain Biking. I was wondering why
there was so many downloads, maybe I should send him a
thank you?

Naw, its probably not him - you never realize how many
people are on this NG until you post a video!

--
-BB- To reply to me, drop the attitude (from my e-mail
address, at least)

Good gawd man! Mikey is starting to slip.. he has gotten
slowly more nuts over the years! Oh and his "look up non-
sequitur" statement is proof.

recent vanderations twirling girth dirt.

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It is also clear that it is IMPOSSIBLE to be aware of all
the small animals and plants killed on this ride. The
rider is going too fast, and has to give his full
attention to not crashing.

P.S. It's best to watch it over a high-speed Internet
connection.

"Pete Rissler" <[email hidden]> wrote
in message

:"]news:[email hidden]:

"Here's a video off our local mountain (Peavine) here in
Reno, NV. About 7.5 mins, 70 MB. Video shot in April.

tccycling.combull ranch cow canyon.mpgOpen ↗"

Can you slip some bulldozer and chainsaw ads in there too
just for good measure? We all now how mikey loves his
bulldozer racing, and you can't race bulldozers until you
cut down all the really big trees.
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Chris Phillipo - Cape Breton, Nova Scotia ramsays-ramsays-Open ↗
online.com

Chris Phillipo said:

Subject: Re: I've been Vandemanized

does gravity allow scoring? if so, this works wonders in
Xnews: Score:: -9999 Subject: Vanderman Never again do I
have to see anything with vanderman in the subject. (this
plus a couple of KF entries really cleans up the trash)
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6/24/2004
7:58 PM [GMT-8]

sittingduck said:

Never again do I have to see anything with vanderman in
the subject. (this plus a couple of KF entries really
cleans up the trash)

And the fact that his name isn't vanderman hasn't been
a problem?

(granted, I have a similar entry because so many people
think that's what his name is)

--
-BB- To reply to me, drop the attitude (from my e-mail
address, at least)

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Can you slip some bulldozer and chainsaw ads in there too
just for good measure? We all now how mikey loves his
bulldozer racing, and you can't race bulldozers until you
cut down all the really big trees.
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_________________________
Chris Phillipo - Cape Breton, Nova Scotia ramsays-ramsays-Open ↗
online.com

With all the construction around Reno it wouldn't be
hard to do.

Pete Rissler

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And the fact that his name isn't vanderman hasn't been a
problem?

Score:: -9999 Subject: Vande*man

🙂
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6/24/2004
7:47 PM [GMT-8]