Chelation + cancer ?

I'm thinking silverprint.co.ukchem24.htmlOpen ↗ You
can buy it cheap wholesale as a chemical - any thoughts if
this stuff is safe to consume orally ? silverprint.co.ukEDTAOpen ↗
acid.PDF healthandage.comConsSupplOpen ↗
ements/EthylenediaminetetraaceticAcidEDTAcs.html#Precautions
ptcl.chem.ox.ac.ukethylenediaminetetraacetiOpen ↗
c_acid_disodium_salt.html I'm getting conflicting
toxicologies on this - some say harmful some say not. Anth

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chelationtherapyonline.comChelatiOpen ↗
onResearch/p1.htm Any thoughts on this? Do you think it
might be a good thing to invest in? Anth

No, this is an old (1989), extremely low quality
retrospective study, performed by dubious researchers,
published in a non-peer-reviewed journal which now seems
defunct. There is ample opportunity for manipulation of
the data in such a study. Patients were not randomised,
and we are expected to take it on faith, without any data,
that there were not critical differences between the
groups such as age.

I cannot for the life of me understand why some persons
calling themselves doctors can claim such dramatic and
important effects from a treatment ("90% reduction in cancer
mortality"😉, yet not move heaven and earth to get a properly
designed RCT performed on it. It reveals an extreme
character flaw that one can only speculate about. It may
have a lot to do with the kind of commercial enteprises (see
"Dr Cranton's vitamins"😉 they are engaged
in.

If I was sure of data like this, or indeed the overblown
claims of any cancer quack, I would be thumping on the desks
of the WHO, the President of the US of A, every major
newspaper I could find, every TV network, and anywhere else
that I thought I could get the message out. I would never
rest until my claims were properly investigated.

As I have said before--- cancer quacks are [censored]-weak wimps.
There are other explanations for their behaviour that are
less flattering.

Peter Moran

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chelationtherapyonline.comChelatioOpen ↗
nResearch/p1.htm Any thoughts on this?

Yes.

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Do you think it might be a good thing to invest in?

If YOU think its a good thing to invest in, I have some
homeopathic Vit-A-Min C aeorsols you might want to
consider funding.

My answer is "No".

Quoted message said:

Anth

(Also found out that it binds to calcium ions) Anth

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I'm thinking silverprint.co.ukchem24.htmlOpen ↗ You
can buy it cheap wholesale as a chemical - any thoughts if
this stuff is safe to consume orally ? silverprint.co.ukEDTAOpen ↗
acid.PDF healthandage.comConsSupOpen ↗
plements/EthylenediaminetetraaceticAcidEDTAcs.html#Precau-
tions ptcl.chem.ox.ac.ukethylenediamineteOpen ↗
traacetic_acid_disodium_salt.html I'm getting conflicting
toxicologies on this - some say harmful some say not. Anth

"Peter Moran" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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"Anth" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:n6-dnRLzbpvxGVPdRVn-
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Quoted message said:

chelationtherapyonline.comChelatOpen ↗
ionResearch/p1.htm Any thoughts on this? Do you think it
might be a good thing to invest in? Anth

No, this is an old (1989), extremely low quality
retrospective study, performed by dubious researchers,
published in a non-peer-reviewed journal which now seems
defunct. There is ample opportunity for manipulation of
the data in such a study. Patients were not randomised,
and we are expected to take it on faith, without any data,
that there were not critical differences between the
groups such as age.

Jep there was an assumption that the rates of cancer in both
groups would be the same without chelation..

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I cannot for the life of me understand why some persons
calling themselves doctors can claim such dramatic and
important effects from a treatment ("90% reduction in
cancer mortality"😉, yet not move heaven and earth to get a
properly designed RCT performed on it. It reveals an
extreme character flaw that one can only speculate about.
It may have a lot to do with the kind of commercial
enteprises (see "Dr Cranton's vitamins"😉 they are engaged
in.

Other stuff I found in articles (Written by MD's) was that
the anti cancer effect was down to inhibition in
collagenases. If you look at the half life data for the EDTA
you can see that it is excreted in 3 days, so how could this
compound inhibit collagenases when it was long gone and
excreted? gordonresearch.comabsorptionOpen ↗
of_edta_chewing_gum.html

Quoted message said:

If I was sure of data like this, or indeed the overblown
claims of any cancer quack, I would be thumping on the
desks of the WHO, the President of the US of A, every
major newspaper I could find, every TV network, and
anywhere else that I thought I could get the message out.
I would never rest until my claims were properly
investigated.

As I have said before--- cancer quacks are [censored]-weak
wimps. There are other explanations for their behaviour
that are less flattering.

Peter Moran

Anth

Also found that it is a food additive - one of those
horrible e numbers! chm.bris.ac.ukwebprojects20Open ↗
01/anderson/first.htm Anth

What a load of conflicting rubbish I can't make a decision
on this drcranton.comoralchelation.htmOpen ↗ Anth

5% oral absorption, with low excretion rate (3 days)
vrp.com963.aspOpen ↗ Anth

More conflicting opinion
smart-publications.comspu118 qanda.htmlOpen ↗
Q: If EDTA is so good at removing heavy metals, does it also
deplete the body of essential minerals and other
important substances?

R: No, amazingly it doesn't. In some instances, oral EDTA
actually enhances the uptake of various trace minerals,
while lowering the total body burden of lead. The World
Health Organization and advisors to the National Academy
of Science recommend that EDTA be added to the diet of
children in poor countries to enhance mineral absorption,
particularly of iron and zinc.

Anth

Anth said:

Do you think it might be a good thing to invest in?

I prefer drinking my "dirt cheap" DE cocktail, thanks... ;^]

--
_o Kristofer Dale, _ \<,_ ragged individualist,
_____( )/ ( )_____ statistic at large...

p.s. Learn and live, vitaletherapeutics.orgvitaletherapeutics.orgOpen ↗

Peter Moran said:

If I was sure of data like this, or indeed the overblown
claims of any cancer quack, I would be thumping on the
desks of the WHO, the President of the US of A, every
major newspaper I could find, every TV network, and
anywhere else that I thought I could get the message out.
I would never rest until my claims were properly
investigated.

Hmm, not unlike Galen Knight and Terence Scallen, who have
steadfastly fought the University of New Mexico and its
larcenous licensee, pro se, for five years and counting in
the US federal court system. BTW, the third appeal was
recently filed in the Federal Court of Appeals in
Washington, D.C. containing mounting evidence of fraud and
collusion that has thus far derailed serious development of
the vitaletheine immune modulator patents. Instead of
conducting straight-forward human trials of the authentic
patented and published vitaletheine compounds used in the
enabling studies, a somewhat related but ineffective
substitute called Beta-Alethine has been foisted off on
unsuspecting patients and investors, under misleading trade
names like "Betathine", "BetaLT", "TauroxSB", and most
recently, "COBAT", being touted as a homeopathic remedy for
"fatigue". Like Ricky Ricardo used to say, "LuuUUUCEE, you
have some 'splainin' to do"... ;^]

I have been compiling some documentation for those
interested, with more added as time and events allow:

nmia.comTheTruthWillSetYouFree.htmOpen ↗

--
_o Kristofer Dale, _ \<,_ ragged individualist,
_____( )/ ( )_____ statistic at large...

p.s. Learn and live, vitaletherapeutics.orgvitaletherapeutics.orgOpen ↗